Did Hank himself lie to me himself? Is he deceased?
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He really did die google seach agent deis on border patrol
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This is the internet. It is not unheard of for people to fake their deaths to escape from something, especially when things do not go as they had hoped.
Might not have the full story but I still haven't seen much in the way of clear-cut, decisive evidence on the matter.
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FACTS:
1. Hank got banned by Nick for possible gps spoofing.
2. Someone got on the game and reset his account.
3. Nelli received a reply from his Palringo account saying that he had died, his alias was Hank, and to look up Van Doren.My questions are:
Was it just coincidence that he died just days after being caught spoofing and banned from a game that he was #1 on? Why would someone log on to Palringo and give a total stranger this information and also manually log in the game and reset his account???
God for bid If this is indeed a tragedy but I am with the facts until other hard evidence is presented. As of right now the facts state that he cheated and got banned, then reset. -
Widowmaker wrote:
FACTS:
1. Hank got banned by Nick for possible gps spoofing.
2. Someone got on the game and reset his account.
3. Nelli received a reply from his Palringo account saying that he had died, his alias was Hank, and to look up Van Doren.Those aren't facts at all. Players get reset when they get banned and Nelli never said #3 happened like that. In fact he's been caught in a lie going back and forth over what he was supposedly told.
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I think he's alive because they could've ment his profile died because I looked at his profile he only had one mob member no weapons and no turfs
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Belial wrote: yes guys I talked to nelli myself last nite. Let me ask you guys this. You can't rwach a friend of yours for a few days finally you get a message from his phone that he died and essentially a link to his obit. Thru the pain and shock do you think you would think clearly enough to question it?
No offense here but you're being very easily lied to by a pretty terrible liar. He doesn't have a straight story at all from the get go about who contacted whom. Even pretty simple questions, which are all I asked him, he gets defensive over because he feels guilty and nervous about being caught, he back tracks on, reinvents parts of and embellishes new parts for. He's not even trying very hard.
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Brown🎵Add MUNG wrote: Nick reset his account for GPS spoofing. This could be a cooincedence. This could also be a mistake, because chatting with Hank, he said he was on a recruiting circuit for his office, which is why he was travelling so much. He told us he was back on the regular job last week.
Clearly Hank and Van Doren are not the same person because you and others talked to Hank after Van Doren had already pasted away.
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Sorry guys, this was sketchy from the very beginning. Bella and myself were very skeptical lastnight which is why neither of us posted. Being an officer for almost a decade my gut feeling was telling me that something was wrong with this whole picture.
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YOU says:
What are your thoughts on this big Hank thing? Something just seems really fishy about this. Really sucks if it's true but I'm just getting a weird vibe off if it
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I guess I can't say I'm 100% sure that Nelli is lying but I'm pretty close to it. At first I also thought that this was sketchy. His first story didn't make any sense and then when I pointed out that is was strange he completely changed his story. I don't really understand why this isn't immediately clear to everyone but people telling the truth don't do that.
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Yeah..um.
Like the devil said, when you're banned, nick resets your account (for everyone who is still asking why the acct would be reset)Nixon- I don't think nelli is lying, I think he's just...inarticulate with his details. He assumed his "real name" was Hank Cunningham (he meant real name as opposed to "Big Hank"). I'd assume it wouldn't matter after he "died" if he found out Hank was an alias & the real name was Mark. Regardless though, I'd guess it's not an alias (bc I'm leaning far to the BS side).
Anyway, looks like he got caught for spoofing (which I'd also been suspicious of when he was in Miami & then CA very soon after) & like Aggressive told me, Hank wanted to go out looking like a hero.
But if it's not BS, then yeah, it sucks.
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BellaItaliana wrote:
Why is psi not reset or his other mules?Yeah..um.
Like the devil said, when you're banned, nick resets your account (for everyone who is still asking why the acct would be reset)Nixon- I don't think nelli is lying, I think he's just...inarticulate with his details. He assumed his "real name" was Hank Cunningham (he meant real name as opposed to "Big Hank"). I'd assume it wouldn't matter after he "died" if he found out Hank was an alias & the real name was Mark. Regardless though, I'd guess it's not an alias (bc I'm leaning far to the BS side).
Anyway, looks like he got caught for spoofing (which I'd also been suspicious of when he was in Miami & then CA very soon after) & like Aggressive told me, Hank wanted to go out looking like a hero.
But if it's not BS, then yeah, it sucks.
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The devil wrote:
Pls quote the changes in story you are referring to. What I saw was him getting emotional over something that happened to someone he actually knew and talked to for quite some time and with his curiosity, msged him in Palringo and replied back with my FACTS post above. My question to u is what incentive would Nelli have to lie about a tragic event, especlially having a rep in this game to uphold?? Also, why do u sound so determined to call him out on something like this? Past feuds? Grudges? Or u just being an asshole?I guess I can't say I'm 100% sure that Nelli is lying but I'm pretty close to it. At first I also thought that this was sketchy. His first story didn't make any sense and then when I pointed out that is was strange he completely changed his story. I don't really understand why this isn't immediately clear to everyone but people telling the truth don't do that.
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Well, he was banned by nick and posted on palringo after the supposed incident of his death. It appears as if he didn't want to go out as a known spoofer. If there's any chance at all that this is false information then it's an absolutely horrible tragedy and he deserves to be mourned and the utmost respect, if it's true then he was still a great player but he just took it to far. Personally I never spoke with him but spoofing or not, alive or deceased, I'm sure he'll be missed by plenty.
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Putz wrote:
yeah, they aren't all reset. Sac daddy was reset, but sceurilla wasn't. But from my understanding, nick takes EVERYTHING on a case by case basis because each situation isn't cut & dry.BellaItaliana wrote:
Why is psi not reset or his other mules?Yeah..um.
Like the devil said, when you're banned, nick resets your account (for everyone who is still asking why the acct would be reset). -
You do not get reset when you are banned. Hank's account got banned sometime during the week of May 22 and May 29. I was viewing his turf on Sunday trying to figure out if he was spoofing. I became capo of Houston again Sunday afternoon. That is when he got reset, not when he got banned.
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Excuse me, I became capo of Houston yesterday afternoon.
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BellaItaliana wrote:
You are correctPutz wrote:
yeah, they aren't all reset. Sac daddy was reset, but sceurilla wasn't. But from my understanding, nick takes EVERYTHING on a case by case basis because each situation isn't cut & dry.BellaItaliana wrote:
Why is psi not reset or his other mules?Yeah..um.
Like the devil said, when you're banned, nick resets your account (for everyone who is still asking why the acct would be reset). -
Widowmaker wrote: Pls quote the changes in story you are referring to. What I saw was him getting emotional over something that happened to someone he actually knew and talked to for quite some time and with his curiosity, msged him in Palringo and replied back with my FACTS post above. My question to u is what incentive would Nelli have to lie about a tragic event, especlially having a rep in this game to uphold?? Also, why do u sound so determined to call him out on something like this? Past feuds? Grudges? Or u just being an asshole?
I've already done this several times, so you can also scroll back and read this thread from the beginning.
What incentive? Attention, clearly. I'm being an asshole? He's convincing people someone died for no other reason then because it makes his nipples hard.
What incentive do you have for believing him?
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roffofl. U idiot. No incentive. I just know it's not to make him nip. Funny but not plausable. What I do see is u being the only one on here attacking him for announcing information on the whereabouts of Big Hank. U have the same amount of reasoning to beleive him or not. It's your choice. Their is nothing to say that he is or isn't lying b/c these were msgs to him only. The way you attack him is childish and is apparent u have something against him personally, so to me, that kinda throws any of your opinions out the door.
Anyhow, doesn't really matter anymore. We know his chances on coming back to this game is slim to none. -
Actually, the general consensus seems to be that the reports of his death may have been greatly exaggerated.
Plus, I sort of like The devil's arguments. You're in the minority here.
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I don't even know him, why would I have anything at all against him personally? Even in the game I'm only very vaguely aware of him.
What I think happened is that he may have been telling the truth about being told Big Hank was dead but the rest was him making it up as he went along because he felt stupid for believing it.
What there is saying that he lied is that his story changed and I haven't been attacking him. I've been unwilling to let his stories go unchallenged, that's about it.
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Putz wrote:
Good question, but not relevant here Putz. If he died his wife certainly wouldn't take the time to reset his account. This is obvious.BellaItaliana wrote:
Why is psi not reset or his other mules?Yeah..um.
Like the devil said, when you're banned, nick resets your account (for everyone who is still asking why the acct would be reset)Nixon- I don't think nelli is lying, I think he's just...inarticulate with his details.
Anyway, looks like he got caught for spoofing (which I'd also been suspicious of when he was in Miami & then CA very soon after) & like Aggressive told me, Hank wanted to go out looking like a hero.
But if it's not BS, then yeah, it sucks.
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The devil wrote:
I still don't understand the "changed story" bit.... Is it this post, saying that maybe he was lying?I don't even know him, why would I have anything at all against him personally? Even in the game I'm only very vaguely aware of him.
What I think happened is that he may have been telling the truth about being told Big Hank was dead but the rest was him making it up as he went along because he felt stupid for believing it.
What there is saying that he lied is that his story changed and I haven't been attacking him. I've been unwilling to let his stories go unchallenged, that's about it.
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Mark Van Doren has no service record. Ive checked 10 times.
Big Hank is retired military i know for a fact.
No border patrol agent would have told a stranger on a game about this, and i seriously doubt his family cared to hit a small icon on his phone and start chattin with a stranger.
Im not buying it honestly.
I do hope its not true, but....still not buying it.
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a l p h a wrote:
Deflection central. Your accounts were banned and should be reset. Muling is the issue here. No one cares about gps spoofing more than your multiple accounts.Putz wrote:
Good question, but not relevant here Putz. If he died his wife certainly wouldn't take the time to reset his account. This is obvious.BellaItaliana wrote:
Why is psi not reset or his other mules?Yeah..um.
Like the devil said, when you're banned, nick resets your accountNixon- I don't think nelli is lying, I think he's just...inarticulate with his details.
Anyway, looks like he got caught for spoofing (which I'd also been suspicious of when he was in Miami & then CA very soon after) & like Aggressive told me, Hank wanted to go out looking like a hero.
But if it's not BS, then yeah, it sucks.
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Widowmaker wrote: I still don't understand the "changed story" bit.... Is it this post, saying that maybe he was lying?
In this thread he changed his story from his original, which was that a family member of Big Hank's contacted him. It's possible that he misspoke but his story just keeps unraveling the more details he adds and then contradicts to explain the gaps in reason. Every time I asked him a simple question about his story he wouldn't answer it. He would come up with more back story that seemingly explained it. So when I asked him about each new part of the story, which you took to be attacking him, he added more information and more holes. Pretty much right away he was contradicting what he first said and the more he added the more confused and implausible it sounded.
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It's not just the story he tells it's how he tells it that makes me think he's not the innocent messenger. I'm fully willing to acknowledged that he might just be terribly misspoken but it's really easier to believe he's making it up then that he's this confused.
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The devil, aka Nixon or w/e tha hell u go by.... I just went back and read every post Nelli made on this subject and every retarted question u asked him. Sounds like u were fabricating shit in your head and not listening to his answers. I would have gotten pissed at u too. Your dumb question #1: Why would u say a family member contacted you. Answer: well no shit, who else would say such info. Most of us would assume this. Dumb question #2: Why would u look under his alias if u knew his real name. Answer #2: He said at the time he thought his real name was Hank Cunningham, which is the name Hank told him tru email contact. These r the only questions u layer out for him and in all honesty, u need to read more carefully before coming up with dumb questions and your own scenario and opinion.
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If there is anything I missed, feel free to add but pls explain thoroughly b/c so far your questions are pretty idiotic.
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Widowmaker wrote:
i havent even tried to explain it to nixon....after reading his posts...i though he was drunk or trying to get us rialed. No way can someone be this simple minded.If there is anything I missed, feel free to add but pls explain thoroughly b/c so far your questions are pretty idiotic.
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