Who was Jesus?
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Amish Hitman wrote:
Just because something is done is god name doesn't make it right. God is love.Zebulon Pike wrote:
By which means. I distinctly remember it was shared from the tip of a sword or the blade of an axe during the crusades. Now it is shared by guns.smurds wrote:
Oh. I'm sorry. I was unaware of that and that you appear to know more about a religion that you don't follow than those who do. Thank you for enlightening me!Lol religion. Why have it if you Christians try forcing others to believe in whatever
They say. That's breaking one of your christian lawsOn a more serious note. Christians are supposed to share the Gospel and God to every person and every land.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
You are one ignorant S.O.B.PattySmack wrote:
The pilot thing isnt historical fact as its only recorded in the bible⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
I can appreciate your passion for debate.A normal guy who commited treason against the roman empire and was justly executed for his crimes
Even if you don't believe Jesus was the Son of God how can you say he committed treason? As he told Pilot when asked if he was king of the Jews, "My kingdom is not of this world". All of his teachings were basic common sense on how to treat your fellow man. His so called followers may have screwed things up but Christs doctrine is pretty simple and hard to argue against IMO. Cheers -
ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
First off evolution is part of science. Why would it not be taught? Second off Christianity is not an academic subject so why Would you write about it in an academic paper. Third off there's such a thing called seperation of church and state so Christianity cannot be in the public schools according to our nations lawssmurds wrote:
We're not forcing people, unlike all public schools who teach evolution as a scientific law and fail anyone who even mentions Christianity in an apparently "open topic" paper. We're not intolerant, you are.Lol religion. Why have it if you Christians try forcing others to believe in whatever
They say. That's breaking one of your christian laws -
⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Well church can be in school but not taught merely as a extra curricular activityՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
First off evolution is part of science. Why would it not be taught? Second off Christianity is not an academic subject so why Would you write about it in an academic paper. Third off there's such a thing called seperation of church and state so Christianity cannot be in the public schools according to our nations lawssmurds wrote:
We're not forcing people, unlike all public schools who teach evolution as a scientific law and fail anyone who even mentions Christianity in an apparently "open topic" paper. We're not intolerant, you are.Lol religion. Why have it if you Christians try forcing others to believe in whatever
They say. That's breaking one of your christian laws -
Answer to 1: No, that's a belief of yours, just like Christianity is a belief of mine. There is as much evidence supporting Creationism as Evolution.
Answer to 2: It was a free topic. Some people did Buddhism, others did reincarnation and others did spiritualism. So why not Christianity?
Answer to 3: Separation of church and state cannot apply to individual people without breaking the fundamentals of the constitution. Freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion. So it doesn't have to be taught in public school, but they have no right to ban it, even from the teachers. They have a right to say and believe what they want, just like they also have the right to ridicule and humiliate Christians. -
ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
AmenSon of God, who came and die for all of our sins. He paid the price of atonement for our sins so we could go to Heaven.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote: First off evolution is part of science. Why would it not be taught? Second off Christianity is not an academic subject so why Would you write about it in an academic paper. Third off there's such a thing called seperation of church and state so Christianity cannot be in the public schools according to our nations laws
Evolution is a theory as is Catastropism is a theory it's not proven therefore it shouldnt be taught. 2. ALL other religions are taught why not Christianity? 3. That's just a modern thing. The original message was to keep the country from naming an official church. Even so why is it only Christianity? Shouldnt all religions be separate? That's discrimination towards Christians. -
An asshole that has causes the Christianity disease in society and has held us back for so long in advancement of any kind.
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Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Held us back? Where do you think calculus came from? It came from people who knew God, and therefore were able to grasp the reality of infinity. I don't call that holding us back. And honestly, what would improve specifically without Christianity? Nukes? Warfare?An asshole that has causes the Christianity disease in society and has held us back for so long in advancement of any kind.
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ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
Where the hell do you get your facts haha. And they hOld us back from equal rights for women, gay marriage, abortion, stem cells, and so much more.Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Held us back? Where do you think calculus came from? It came from people who knew God, and therefore were able to grasp the reality of infinity. I don't call that holding us back. And honestly, what would improve specifically without Christianity? Nukes? Warfare?An asshole that has causes the Christianity disease in society and has held us back for so long in advancement of any kind.
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Ꮹཞ།ཀཀ wrote:
...Usually written by people that didn't actually witness anything. It was mostly verbally passed to them, like a line of whispering monkeys.glman wrote:
What Belial is saying is that people interpret the bible as being perfect and sent by god. It was written by men it's an account of the the things they witnessed.⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote: Prove it or stfu
The bible is has copies closest to its original writing than any other date and there are so many that barely vary at it it's the most reliable by standpoint of oldest copy. -
Not saying abortion should be celebrated. Just it should be made legal.
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Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
And you call those benificial advancements?!!ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
Where the hell do you get your facts haha. And they hOld us back from equal rights for women, gay marriage, abortion, stem cells, and so much more.Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Held us back? Where do you think calculus came from? It came from people who knew God, and therefore were able to grasp the reality of infinity. I don't call that holding us back. And honestly, what would improve specifically without Christianity? Nukes? Warfare?An asshole that has causes the Christianity disease in society and has held us back for so long in advancement of any kind.
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glman wrote:
Only many, many, MANY changes. No contradictions though.Ꮹཞ།ཀཀ wrote:
Actually B said that the bible was not a good historical record. And also the bible CANT just be a book with people's opinions 1. They say it's god word 2. There are NO contradictionsglman wrote:
What Belial is saying is that people interpret the bible as being perfect and sent by god. It was written by men it's an account of the the things they witnessed.⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote: Prove it or stfu
The bible is has copies closest to its original writing than any other date and there are so many that barely vary at it it's the most reliable by standpoint of oldest copy.Now go back to beating your wife with a rod, sleeping with your other wives, and killing your slave to make up for that guy you killed last week.
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Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Actually the civil rights movements, abolitionists, and people for women's rights were Christians. We beleive being gay is a sin but like any sin, Jesus can take that away. Anyway this isn't related to my question.ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
Where the hell do you get your facts haha. And they hOld us back from equal rights for women, gay marriage, abortion, stem cells, and so much more.Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Held us back? Where do you think calculus came from? It came from people who knew God, and therefore were able to grasp the reality of infinity. I don't call that holding us back. And honestly, what would improve specifically without Christianity? Nukes? Warfare?An asshole that has causes the Christianity disease in society and has held us back for so long in advancement of any kind.
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(don't forget to stone those blasphemers!)
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Then why are there no contradictions and copies very close to when they were originally written (no reason to insult Christianity btw)Ꮹཞ།ཀཀ wrote:
...Usually written by people that didn't actually witness anything. It was mostly verbally passed to them, like a line of whispering monkeys.glman wrote:
What Belial is saying is that people interpret the bible as being perfect and sent by god. It was written by men it's an account of the the things they witnessed.⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote: Prove it or stfu
The bible is has copies closest to its original writing than any other date and there are so many that barely vary at it it's the most reliable by standpoint of oldest copy. -
I'm sorry if my opinion offends anyone.
I'm just calling it as I see it. Those stories in the bible are not original. They were the same stories going around in several other regional cultures that existed before Abraham. It was a verbal record, not a written one.
People like to stretch the truth to fit those writings so that they can explain away the innacuracies throughout...
But, hey... It's a fine set of ancient philosophies to live by... Even if it's quite clear to be a ripoff of pre-existing stories.
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ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
Stems cells mean we can grow body parts! We could, in theory, grow me a new leg.Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
And you call those benificial advancements?!!ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
Where the hell do you get your facts haha. And they hOld us back from equal rights for women, gay marriage, abortion, stem cells, and so much more.Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Held us back?An asshole that has causes the Christianity disease in society and has held us back for so long in advancement of any kind.
But christanity is against it. They class it as playing god.Cloning is also stopped as it's playing god. Did the Christians try to stop the genetically modified bacteria that produce insulin for diabetics? I'm not sure if they did try to stop it.
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Angel you are just like Augustine in the sense that every time I read one of your posts, I want to throw myself off a cliff.
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🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
And what does that mean?Angel you are just like Augustine in the sense that every time I read one of your posts, I want to throw myself off a cliff.
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🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
I agree with that!Angel you are just like Augustine in the sense that every time I read one of your posts, I want to throw myself off a cliff.
But shadow hasn't reached that point. I find her posts enjoyable to read and counteract. -
Superyan wrote:
Christians tries to stop photography in the 1800s as they felt it was blasphemy to capture a piece of gods imageՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
Stems cells mean we can grow body parts! We could, in theory, grow me a new leg.Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
And you call those benificial advancements?!!ՏhadowA͜ngelƊ. wrote:
Where the hell do you get your facts haha.Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Held us back?An asshole
But christanity is against it. They class it as playing god.Cloning is also stopped as it's playing god. Did the Christians try to stop the genetically modified bacteria that produce insulin for diabetics? I'm not sure if they did try to stop it.
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Back to who was Jesus.
In my opinion, Jesus was the first born son of Mary, queen of the Jews and direct descendant of King David, Moses, etc. and Joseph her husband.
It was called a virgin birth because it was her first child not because it was immaculate.
He grew up to be a revolutionary leader trying to overthrow the Roman Empire.
When he was captured it was put to the Jewish people they could save Jesus or his son Barabus. The Jewish people chose the son and heir to the Jewish throne.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Superyan wrote:
What it'd be like today if they had succeeded!Stems cells mean we can grow body parts! We could, in theory, grow me a new leg.
Christians tries to stop photography in the 1800s as they felt it was blasphemy to capture a piece of gods image
But christanity is against it. They class it as playing god.Cloning is also stopped as it's playing god. Did the Christians try to stop the genetically modified bacteria that produce insulin for diabetics? I'm not sure if they did try to stop it.
No tv. No photos. Life would suck! -
I messed those quotes up :L
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Lol ryan :)
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At shadow. Seperation of church and state was meant to be total and as public schools are a organization of the state neither it nor it's employees can teach Christianity in any biased way. They can teach that it exists but they can't teach it as being fact
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Jesus was a jew. If your not talking about the famous Jew named Jesus, then there is another Jesus i know who works at a taco shop up the block. Wht kind of question is "whos Jesus"? Dude, do you have any idea how many Jesus's there are in south america? C'mon.
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Carpenter wrote:
That's hilarious. "The firsthand account of god, not the second hand interpretations of other people."⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Did you truly read and interpret the bible for yourself? I would highly suggest it. Look at the firsthand account of god, not the second hand interpretations of other people.Carpenter wrote:
I was a christian for much of my life. I've had more than enough of a look at itI think we should all actually take a look at other's religions before hacking at them. Seriously. It makes you look like kids.
Considering the bible was not written by god/Jesus. And it was also not written in English. So all you can get are second hand interpretations.
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