⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖
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Oh and you didn't disagree with my other post, so is that agreement on more than 1 god. And that god is a title rather than an awe inspiring being?₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
All of the gospels were written hundreds of years after his death.Hyena wrote:
according to what? Gnostic gospels that came 200 hundred years after Christ that are in short quantity? we have more than 30 thousand new testament manuscripts and many more dating early as 80 A.D and now finding more that may be dated earlier which say nothing of the sort about jesus being married.💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Jesus was married to Mary. Had children and moved to France for his retirement after his rebellion against the Romans failed.kind. Also it was to show his to die, we would still have t
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
I never said I believe in evolution. Chill man.glman wrote: And technically evolution is a theory and therefore isn't "proven".
The odds of a single cell possessing non-harmful mutations of five specific (functionally related) genes is the product of their separate probabilities. Morris, 63. In other words, the probability is 1 in 108 X 108 X 108 X 108 X 108, or 1 in 1040. If one hundred trillion (1014) bacteria were produced every second for five billion years (1017 seconds), the resulting population (1031) would be only 1/1,000,000,000 of what was needed! -
Hyena wrote:
you don't know what your talking about. are you insisting that God couldn't allow his word to be given around the world before the printing press like bart's standard?₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
All of the gospels were written hundreds of years after his death.Hyena wrote:
according to what? Gnostic gospels that came 200 hundred years after Christ that are in short quantity? we have more than 30 thousand new testament manuscripts and many more dating early as 80 A.D and now finding more that may be dated earlier which say nothing of the sort about jesus being married.💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Jesus was married to Mary. Had children and moved to France for his retirement after his rebellion against the Romans failed.kind. Also it was to show his to die, we would still have t
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Superyan wrote:
No, He is eternal... never had a beginning.YOU wrote:
Counter argument.♠Aⅅⅅ ϮuƦƑ₳♠ wrote:
You don't understand...Superyan wrote:
You prove my point. You can't imagine something dead evolving from something dead, but you believe something alive evolved from something dead?? Bravo, Einstein.Macro evolution is loads of small evolution!
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The jet isn't alive. So it the reason it can't evolve from a rock is because it's dead. Enough said.I rest my case.
Fml.
Guys, I have a £20 note in my pocket. The first one to kill me gets it. Please.
So god came from nothing right?
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Hyena wrote:
Actually they were written from 30-100 years after he died.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
All of the gospels were written hundreds of years after his death.Hyena wrote:
according to what? Gnostic gospels that came 200 hundred years after Christ that are in short quantity? we have more than 30 thousand new testament manuscripts and many more dating early as 80 A.D and now finding more that may be dated earlier which say nothing of the sort about jesus being married.💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Jesus was married to Mary. Had children and moved to France for his retirement after his rebellion against the Romans failed.kind. Also it was to show his to die, we would still have t
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
have you done any macro evolution study? macro evolution has to do with adaptation and development according to the environment. It has nothing to do with mutations.Carpenter wrote:
⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
It can't be, they are different. Micro evolution is the change of things that can only be changed slightly. Once it has changed, there is no need or reason why it would continue to change, if you follow. I definitely see where you're coming from though.Carpenter wrote:
and why not? As was explained macro evolution is just a combination of a lot of microJust because something can gain extreme resistance to something, like antibodies, does not mean it can turn into a fish.
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Hyena wrote:
Wow ur way wrong, the 4 gospel authors were alive when Jesus was alive, the gospels themselves were written maybe only a few decades after his death.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
All of the gospels were written hundreds of years after his death.Hyena wrote:
according to what? Gnostic gospels that came 200 hundred years after Christ that are in short quantity? we have more than 30 thousand new testament manuscripts and many more dating early as 80 A.D and now finding more that may be dated earlier which say nothing of the sort about jesus being married.💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Jesus was married to Mary. Had children and moved to France for his retirement after his rebellion against the Romans failed.kind. Also it was to show his to die, we would still have t
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Superyan wrote:
nope, got it wrong again. In evolutionary biology, adaptive radiation is the evolution of ecological and phenotypic diversity within a rapidly multiplying lineage.[1] Starting with a recent single ancestor, this process results in the speciation and phenotypic adaptation of an array of species exhibiting different morphological and physiological traits with which they can exploit a range of divergent environments. [1]Macro evolution is loads of small evolution!
You think some monkey is going to just suddenly pop out a full human baby? No. It happened slowly in small steps over MILLIONS of years.And the stupid fighter jet idea. Evolving from a rock.
The jet isn't alive. So it the reason it can't evolve from a rock is because it's dead. Enough said. -
₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_radiationSuperyan wrote:
nope, got it wrong again. In evolutionary biology, adaptive radiation is the evolution of ecological and phenotypic diversity within a rapidly multiplying lineage.[1] Starting with a recent single ancestor, this process results in the speciation and phenotypic adaptation of an array of species exhibiting different morphological and physiological traits with which they can exploit a range of divergent environments. [1]Macro evolution is loads of small evolution!
You think some monkey is going to just suddenly pop out a full human baby? No. It happened slowly in small steps over MILLIONS of years.And the stupid fighter jet idea. Evolving from a rock.
The jet isn't alive. So it the reason it can't evolve from a rock is because it's dead. Enough said. -
Let me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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No but I do believe in the game Chinese whispers. I do believe that the start of the bible states that the book is not to be amended. And yet it has been translated into many different languages and versions which all differ. Accordingly I can not put any faith in this book unless I learn ancient Aramaic and read the original.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
When one considers that a structure as "simple" as the wing on a fruit fly involves 30-40 genes (Bird, 1:88), it is mathematically absurd to think that random genetic mutations can account for the vast diversity of life on earth. Even Julian Huxley, a staunch evolutionist who made assumptions very favorable to the theory, computed the odds against the evolution of a horse to be 1 in 10300,000. Pitman, 68. If only more Christians had that kind of faith!₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_radiationSuperyan wrote:
nope, got it wrong againMacro evolution is loads of small evolution!
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Hyena wrote:
Actually they only differ on general wording. No contradictions exist between versions.No but I do believe in the game Chinese whispers. I do believe that the start of the bible states that the book is not to be amended. And yet it has been translated into many different languages and versions which all differ. Accordingly I can not put any faith in this book unless I learn ancient Aramaic and read the original.
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glman wrote:
Morals are merely the self imposed rules by society. Different societies have different morals are acceptable in different societies.Let me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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What you guys are forgetting though is that God has given man many chances before he's wiped them out, Take Sodom and Gomorrah, God's prophet went in there and tried to find 50 good people, couldn't find any, Then he asked God if he could find 40 Good people of he would spare the city, he went in there and could find any, and this happened all the way down to 10 people, So God gave the people five chances. Take the city of Ninivah ok, God was going to wipe out the city unless they changed there wicked ways and turned to him. God sent Jonah and Jonah taught to them and they turned from there wicked ways and God had mercy on them. Ecclesiastes 3:17 says "I thought in my heart, God will bring to judgement both the righteous and the wicked, for there will be a time for every action, a time for every deed".
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Superyan wrote:
nope, got it wrong againMacro evolution is loads of small evolution!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_radiation
This probability problem is not the delusion of some radical scientific fringe. As stated by William Fix:Whether one looks to mutations or gene flow for the source of the variations needed to fuel evolution, there is an enormous probability problem at the core of Darwinist and neo-Darwinist theory, which has been cited by hundreds of scientists and professionals. Engineers, physicists, astronomers, and biologists who have looked without prejudice at the notion of such variations producing ever more complex organisms have come to the same conclusion: The evolutionists are assuming the impossible. Fix, 196.
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💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
I love a good fairy tale as wellWhat you guys are forgetting though is that God has given man many chances before he's wiped them out, Take Sodom and Gomorrah, God's prophet went in there and tried to find 50 good people, couldn't find any, Then he asked God if he could find 40 Good people of he would spare the city, he went in there and could find any, and this happened all the way down to 10 people, So God gave the people five chances. Take the city of Ninivah ok, God was going to wipe out the city unless they changed there wicked ways and turned to him. God sent Jonah and Jonah taught to them and they turned from there wicked ways and God had mercy on them. Ecclesiastes 3:17 says "I thought in my heart, God will bring to judgement both the righteous and the wicked, for there will be a time for every action, a time for every deed".
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Hyena wrote:
so in a hundred years government deems athiestism as harmful to society thus creating a law to behead all who profess to atheistism. Would that be a moral thing you would support too?glman wrote:
Morals are merely the self imposed rules by society. Different societies have different morals are acceptable in different societies.Let me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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Now I know some of you will say "God is wicked for mass murder just because people did not follow God and followed their own deity" well think of it this way, would your earthly father want you to listen to what he said, or to you friends dad, if you listened to your dads friend your dad might forgive you for mistake and tell you not to do it again. Now if you do it again and your da keeps warning you and you don't listen to him, he will punish you, It's the same way with God.
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glman wrote:
morals are subjective to majority of vote and a assumption that the future will be like the past. to athieism morals are subject to chemical reactions and snyaptic nerve reactions happening in the brain- and deemed as a majority vote for their universal morals- they are saying their morals are better than others- a law unto themselves romans 2:14Let me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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Hyena wrote:
There's archeological proof that the city of Sodom and Gomorrah was real, and its buildings was burnt from the top down, and the archaeologists found that on the tombstones that there was big masses of death around the same time.💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
I love a good fairy tale as wellWhat you guys are forgetting though is that God has given man many chances before he's wiped them out, Take Sodom and Gomorrah, God's prophet went in there and tried to find 50 good people, couldn't find any, Then he asked God if he could find 40 Good people of he would spare the city, he went in there and could find any, and this happened all the way down to 10 people, So God gave the people five chances.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
That's not what he said. He didn't say he would agree with anything like that.Hyena wrote:
so in a hundred years government deems athiestism as harmful to society thus creating a law to behead all who profess to atheistism. Would that be a moral thing you would support too?glman wrote:
Morals are merely the self imposed rules by society. Different societies have different morals are acceptable in different societies.Let me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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Hyena wrote:
So if this is true, did hitler did nothing wrong?glman wrote:
Morals are merely the self imposed rules by society. Different societies have different morals are acceptable in different societies.Let me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Renowned French zoologist Pierre-Paul Grass' has made no secret of his skepticism:Superyan wrote:
nope, got it wrong againMacro evolution is loads of small evolution!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_radiationWhat gambler would be crazy enough to play roulette with random evolution? The probability of dust carried by the wind reproducing Dürer's (Matt, I can't get the 'u' to go small for me there!) "Melancholia" is less infinitesimal than the probability of copy errors in the DNA molecule leading to the formation of the eye; besides, these errors had no relationship whatsoever with the function that the eye would have to perform or was starting to perform. There is no law against daydreaming, but science must not indulge in it. Grass', 104.
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glman wrote:
Stalin murdered millions and millions of Christians- he was a devout atheist... He is justified according to the atheist way of thinking because they were the ruling class of that time.Hyena wrote:
So if this is true, did hitler did nothing wrong?glman wrote:
Morals are merely the self imposed rules by society. Different societies have different morals are acceptable in different societies.Let me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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glman wrote:
Murder and genocide was not part if Germany's culture. Most people seem to forget that most Germans hated Hitler.Hyena wrote:
So if this is true, did hitler did nothing wrong?glman wrote:
Morals are merely the self imposed rules by society. Different societies have different morals are acceptable in different societies.Let me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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Let's not forget the story of the red sea when Moses split the sea so the Israelites could cross it, then pharaoh and his chariots was caught in the sea. Did you know that there was chariot parts found in the red sea?
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🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
Yes but why if morals aren't real?glman wrote:
Murder and genocide was not part if Germany's culture. Most people seem to forget that most Germans hated Hitler.Hyena wrote:
So if this is true, did hitler did nothing wrong?glman wrote:
Morals are merely the self imposed rules by society. Different societies have different morals are acceptable in different societies.Let me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
but according to the standard of atheism, who ever has the most nukes and military power of the day has the recommended standard of morality... so actually the atheist don't have anything to say about hitler, stalin, Mao, Iran, Iraq, crusades.... nothing just empty rhetoric of opinions.glman wrote:
morals are subjective to majority of vote and a assumption that the future will be like the past. to athieism morals are subject to chemical reactions and snyaptic nerve reactions happening in the brain- and deemed as a majority vote for their universal morals- they are saying their morals are better than others- a law unto themselves romans 2:14Let me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Moses didn't split the seaLet's not forget the story of the red sea when Moses split the sea so the Israelites could cross it, then pharaoh and his chariots was caught in the sea. Did you know that there was chariot parts found in the red sea?
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