Change or no change?
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I've recently been having similar discussion on the topic of "Change" in many of my MBA classes. I though I'd see what this community feels about the topic.
Are your Pro-Change or Anti-Change? (when I say change, I mean change in anything: economy, technology, change in the norm, any type of change)
I for one am Pro-Change
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Change for the sale of change is bad. Who are you Obama?
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Justin ßieblial wrote:
You have to agree that Obama is than McCain would have been though. Also I think I am pro change in generalChange for the sale of change is bad. Who are you Obama?
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This is way to vague. I'm pro change and anti change.
If you are straight up pro change then I guess you want to see the government dissolved at the same time have government gain full control over every aspect of life. I mean both of these would be change right? And you are pro change? You don't care what the change is, you just want change? -
Changge... Spare some change??
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Nailz⚡ was here wrote:
That's what I was thinking. 💵💵💵Changge... Spare some change??
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Bayern Munich wrote:
No I don't and that absolute bullshit. Obama hasn't done a single good thing un office. Worse he's constantly lied about everything worse than any politician in history. Not to mention that the healthcare thing will completely turn us into a third world countryJustin ßieblial wrote:
You have to agree that Obama is than McCain would have been though. Also I think I am pro change in generalChange for the sale of change is bad. Who are you Obama?
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Justin ßieblial wrote:
No way it passes.Bayern Munich wrote:
No I don't and that absolute bullshit. Obama hasn't done a single good thing un office. Worse he's constantly lied about everything worse than any politician in history. Not to mention that the healthcare thing will completely turn us into a third world countryJustin ßieblial wrote:
You have to agree that Obama is than McCain would have been though. Also I think I am pro change in generalChange for the sale of change is bad. Who are you Obama?
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Justin ßieblial wrote:
that's why I moved to China.Bayern Munich wrote:
No I don't and that absolute bullshit. Obama hasn't done a single good thing un office. Worse he's constantly lied about everything worse than any politician in history. Not to mention that the healthcare thing will completely turn us into a third world countryJustin ßieblial wrote:
You have to agree that Obama is than McCain would have been though. Also I think I am pro change in generalChange for the sale of change is bad. Who are you Obama?
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Well the discussions in my class fealty with change in terms of economy and the general norm. Like nowadays it's more technologically advanced. Everything is shifting to the Internet. Things like that. With that regard I am pro-change. Obviously I am not going to accept a bad change. I'll attempt to change that to something else and that too would be a change lol. For example, you guys bought the whole Obama issue and how he has done nothing good well. Anti-change would be to leave it the way it is. Pro-change would be to do something about it (whether it's something good of bad is a whole different issue)
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Also the concept of pro-change and anti-change is more towards the line of do you like thIngs the way they are or do you like thIngs to improve (improvements in something can only be bought by changing it)
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Justin ßieblial wrote:
First, how many developing countries have universal healthcare? Also the bailout of the car companies was brilliant. Now Chrysler and GM both had a massive increase in sales. I'll admit Obama hasn't been too great, he compromised too much, but all McCain would have done was left soldiers fighting in 2 useless wars.Bayern Munich wrote:
No I don't and that absolute bullshit. Obama hasn't done a single good thing un office. Worse he's constantly lied about everything worse than any politician in history. Not to mention that the healthcare thing will completely turn us into a third world countryJustin ßieblial wrote:
You have to agree that Obama is than McCain would have been though. Also I think I am pro change in generalChange for the sale of change is bad. Who are you Obama?
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I got 10 sets of the state quarters both "D" and "P"
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Justin ßieblial wrote:
Well, you certainly drank the tea-koolaid.Bayern Munich wrote:
No I don't and that absolute bullshit. Obama hasn't done a single good thing un office. Worse he's constantly lied about everything worse than any politician in history. Not to mention that the healthcare thing will completely turn us into a third world countryJustin ßieblial wrote:
You have to agree that Obama is than McCain would have been though. Also I think I am pro change in generalChange for the sale of change is bad. Who are you Obama?
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Why do you say that? The healthcare bill is a clear violation of the constitution. And it won't work. Plus those with insurance already are going to see premiums go through the roof. Quality of medical care is goin to go way down for those who had insurance
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Not sure either way. change is inevitable. I'm under the belief that a resource based economy could work. But getting to that point as a whole would take an extreme amount of turmoil in society. Philosophers since mankind came to be have been giving their whole lives to trying to imagine what the perfect society would be, and how we could ever get there. So far no plan seems easy. Not to mention the fact that I am not nearly as qualified as any of those men and women. There's no way I could answer this question rationally.
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So the consensus for most Americans is that Obama promised too much and delivered too little...?
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Justin ßieblial wrote:
It's a violation of the constitution to give people without proper healthcare, healthcare? I would rather pay a little more and allow a lot of other people to have healthcare.Why do you say that? The healthcare bill is a clear violation of the constitution. And it won't work. Plus those with insurance already are going to see premiums go through the roof. Quality of medical care is goin to go way down for those who had insurance
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Change everywhere is perpetual and inevitable. It is the force behind change which need to be discussed in order to understand desired outcome.
That being said, implementing or affecting "change" is one of the hardest things a person or group could do. One example is Obama, yes...not much has changed and govt bureaucracy, lobbiests, & interest groups are still way out of control.
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Bayern Munich wrote:
Yes and no. Its not a disagreement over healthcare per se, it's a disagreement over state vs federal government rights. Really states have had their rights trampled on since the civil war and as horrible as the south was (morally, with slavery driving their economies) they were really fighting for their state rights....which they ultimately lost.Justin ßieblial wrote:
It's a violation of the constitution to give people without proper healthcare, healthcare? I would rather pay a little more and allow a lot of other people to have healthcare.Why do you say that? The healthcare bill is a clear violation of the constitution. And it won't work. Plus those with insurance already are going to see premiums go through the roof. Quality of medical care is goin to go way down for those who had insurance
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I'm all for improvement. Improvement in way of life, society, the way we treat each other, technology, healthcare etc. doesn't matter what changes as long as improvement occurs IMO.
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KilgoreTrout🍀 wrote:
i thought thats what this thread about. I was thinkibg to myselfNailz⚡ was here wrote:
That's what I was thinking. 💵💵💵Changge... Spare some change??
YES I WANT CHANGE. YOU CAN CHANGE CHANGE INTO DOLLARS. THATS WHY THEY CALL IT CHANGE.why dont we cents in out income?
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I wish we had change in this game. I mean cents. Just so when we fight we also have the option of throwing coins at them. Have you even had that done to you? IT FUCKING HURTS 😵
have a baseball player or someone that can throw very hard fast and accurate do it to you. Youll see what i mean -
It depends on the thing being changed, it depends on the change itself, it depends on the possible consrquences of the change, & it depends on if the status quo is already good/working. It's far too broad a question.
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