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US Debt Crisis.

• __Don_Line__ Jul 27, 2011

  Brown🎵Note wrote:

  This thread has more stupid than I can even start responding to.

  Time Magazine Special Report: "What kids on TurfWars think about serious economic issues, and their recipes for recovery."

  Next you guys should tackle that world hunger thing, and like disease and wars, too.
  

  That's the whole reason our forum exists. For us to talk about things. If you think normal citizens and others shouldn't voice their opinions on a public forum, then you should stay off of it. This is what people think.
• Ʈℍㅌ ʘㄕㅌℝ₳₮ミℝ Jul 27, 2011

  The 30% on everyone on 35k and above would result in a whole lot of folks on 34k.
• Johnny Cage Jul 27, 2011

  Cut spending, raise taxes... Not that difficult....
• Brown🎵Note Jul 27, 2011

  __Don_Line__ wrote:

  Brown🎵Note wrote:

  This thread has more stupid than I can even start responding to.

  Time Magazine Special Report: "What kids on TurfWars think about serious economic issues, and their recipes for recovery."

  Next you guys should tackle that world hunger thing, and like disease and wars, too.
  

  That's the whole reason our forum exists. For us to talk about things. If you think normal citizens and others shouldn't voice their opinions on a public forum, then you should stay off of it. This is what people think.

  Yeah, but maybe people should talk about something they actually have some real clue about, instead of parroting ideology like a bunch of ignorant lemmings.

  I'm guilty, too, obviously... But this thread seems too deep in the bullshit.
• madam Jul 27, 2011

  Greedy rich people
• Big Jake Jul 27, 2011

  ßelial wrote:

  For taxes the solution has always been easy. Create a flat un avoidable tax of 20% for muons that makes more than 35k a year. Lower class wont have to worry about it. And with no deductions or loopholes we would have nore cash coming in than ever
  

  Yep. Ain't gonna happen but it'd be pretty fair.
• __Don_Line__ Jul 27, 2011

  I'm guilty, too, obviously... But this thread seems too deep in the bullshit.
  

  That's true, some of this is BS. But I'm not going to say it doesn't belong here, because it does belong here.
• __Don_Line__ Jul 27, 2011

  __Don_Line__ wrote:

  And don't assume that all "rich guys" got there by siphoning money from "lower classes", as someone up there put it. There is a such thing as a "hard working person". Example: Larry Page and Sergey Brin(founders of google) started google by salvaging abandoned computers in the harbors. Look at them now. Of course, the greedy ones generally DO take money from people, BUT they don't last long. Example: The phone hacking scandal in UK.

  Do not assume I want the "lower classes" to be taxed. But let it be known to the immature 12 year olds responding to this, not all "rich guys" or business men are corrupt, like they are in TV.
  

  Madam, you should read this.
• bee ryan Jul 27, 2011

  ßelial wrote:

  For taxes the solution has always been easy. Create a flat un avoidable tax of 20% for muons that makes more than 35k a year. Lower class wont have to worry about it. And with no deductions or loopholes we would have nore cash coming in than ever
  

  No more complicated tax forms, just three boxes: how much did you make, what is ten percent, and amount owed to uncle sam. No more tax lawyers or IRS agents, fewer accountants and cpas. Oh must have been having a dream where govt made things easier and better...
• squishedfrog Jul 27, 2011

  You could all vote to join Canada if we'd let ya lol
• Tapwaterfish Jul 27, 2011

  =3:)8( wrote:

  carl johnson wrote:

  Obamas raising taxes on millionares and billionaires
  

  R u a millionaire/billionaire?
  If not, then why care.

  I am, sorry guys.
• Eyecu Jul 27, 2011

  ßelial wrote:

  wrote:

  Tony10Thumbs wrote:

  Now is not the time to raise taxes or cut spending. Debt sucks, but the government taking money away from people (either by raising taxes or cutting spending) will kill the economy. We shouldn't have (and continue to) spent so much money on pointless wars. We had a surpluss 10 years ago, now huge debt. End all the wars and spend that money here. Wait to raise taxes till the economy gets better.
  

  Works good until we get attacked. Which was the cause of your "pointless" wars in the first place

  Did you ever think that we used the terrible 9/11 attacks as an excuse to go and collect oil from the Middle East? Yes, 9/11 is something that shattered are nation's sense of security , but I think the main reason we went ovet to the Middle East was for the oil.
• Brown🎵Note Jul 27, 2011

  Eyecu wrote:

  ßelial wrote:

  wrote:

  Works good until we get attacked. Which was the cause of your "pointless" wars in the first place

  Did you ever think that we used the terrible 9/11 attacks as an excuse to go and collect oil from the Middle East? Yes, 9/11 is something that shattered are nation's sense of security , but I think the main reason we went ovet to the Middle East was for the oil.

  Correction: To stabilize the oil. Not collect it. Our security depends on energy. We can't have it being taken away now, can we?
• Katclaws Jul 27, 2011

  We were screwed when they put the fed in back in 1913. Be prepared for the economic crisis coming. Gold or silver might be yer best bets.
• Add: KOZY Jul 27, 2011

  Brown🎵Note wrote:

  wrote:

  Correction: To stabilize the oil. Not collect it. Our security depends on energy. We can't have it being taken away now, can we?

  We could run our vehicles off of mcdicks grease if it wasn't illegal. Why is it illegal? Cuz nobody makes money off of it. You can mod your car to run half mcdicks grease and half gas, that's legal.

  If tesla would have continued to receive funding and finished his tower in NY and in the UK the world might have looked somewhat different. Wireless free energy for all. Vehicles that are powered this way would have been awesome. But NO because he was trying to provide FREE energy his investors backed out cuz they wouldn't have control or regulation, meaning no money for them.

  Also USA wouldn't be in such deep shit if bush didn't give the tax breaks to the wealthy like he did.
• ʗӈᵃ℞ʟıعϻᵃ℞ʟعȳ Jul 27, 2011

  Congress should've just let Pablo Escobar pay it off for us when he offered...THEN killed him after 💪🇺🇸👍
• Tony10Thumbs Jul 27, 2011

  ßelial wrote:

  =3:)8( wrote:

  Tony10Thumbs wrote:

  Now is not the time to raise taxes or cut spending. Debt sucks, but the government taking money away from people (either by raising taxes or cutting spending) will kill the economy. We shouldn't have (and continue to) spent so much money on pointless wars. We had a surpluss 10 years ago, now huge debt. End all the wars and spend that money here. Wait to raise taxes till the economy gets better.
  

  America pretty much needs to stop sticking its nose into other countries business.

  Works good until we get attacked. Which was the cause of your "pointless" wars in the first place

  iraq and Libya never attacked us.
• [Add:Baz]Boffer Jul 27, 2011

  Brown🎵Note wrote:

  __Don_Line__ wrote:

  Brown🎵Note wrote:

  This thread has more stupid than I can even start responding to.

  Time Magazine Special Report: "What kids on TurfWars think about serious economic issues, and their recipes for recovery."

  Next you guys should tackle that world hunger thing, and like disease and wars, too.
  

  That's the whole reason our forum exists.

  Yeah, but maybe people should talk about something they actually have some real clue about, instead of parroting ideology like a bunch of ignorant lemmings.

  I'm guilty, too, obviously... But this thread seems too deep in the bullshit.
  

  Talkin shit, shootin the breeze. It's what makes the world go round.
  That and surplus labour and exploitation.
• Eyecu Jul 27, 2011

  Tony10Thumbs wrote:

  ßelial wrote:

  =3:)8( wrote:

  Tony10Thumbs wrote:

  Now is not the time to raise taxes or cut spending. Debt sucks, but the government taking money away from people (either by raising taxes or cutting spending) will kill the economy. We shouldn't have (and continue to) spent so much money on pointless wars. We had a surpluss 10 years ago, now huge debt. End all the wars and spend that money here. Wait to raise taxes till the economy gets better.
  

  America pretty much needs to stop sticking its nose into other countries business.

  Works good until we get attacked. Which was the cause of your "pointless" wars in the first place

  iraq and Libya never attacked us.

  Exactly Tony! It was those messed up terrorists no one likes. Not the country they were born in or there race.
• Eyecu Jul 27, 2011

  Their*
• ∆Ƿɦɵɛƞıҳ∆ Jul 27, 2011

  TapWaterFish™ wrote:

  =3:)8( wrote:

  carl johnson wrote:

  Obamas raising taxes on millionares and billionaires
  

  R u a millionaire/billionaire?
  If not, then why care.

  I am, sorry guys.

  Well can you afford the new taxes then?
• AH Jul 27, 2011

  =3:)8( wrote:

  Tony10Thumbs wrote:

  Now is not the time to raise taxes or cut spending. Debt sucks, but the government taking money away from people (either by raising taxes or cutting spending) will kill the economy. We shouldn't have (and continue to) spent so much money on pointless wars. We had a surpluss 10 years ago, now huge debt. End all the wars and spend that money here. Wait to raise taxes till the economy gets better.
  

  America pretty much needs to stop sticking its nose into other countries business.

  Exactly, you'd think that North Korea and Vietnam have taught us that.
• ᏨᗴᎡᏖᏬ$ᗪ Jul 27, 2011

  Azafury wrote:

  True fact: we spend trillions of dollars 4 war funds and only about 2-4 billion on aid Per year think about that
  

  Thought about it. Just like turf wars. We prefer capping people more than helping people
• Add: KOZY Jul 27, 2011

  Eyecu wrote:

  Tony10Thumbs wrote:

  ßelial wrote:

  =3:)8( wrote:

  Tony10Thumbs wrote:

  Now is not the time to raise taxes or cut spending. Debt sucks, but the government taking money away from people (either by raising taxes or cutting spending) will kill the economy. We shouldn't have (and continue to) spent so much money on pointless wars. We had a surpluss 10 years ago, now huge debt. End all the wars and spend that money here. Wait to raise taxes till the economy gets better.
  

  iraq and Libya never attacked us.

  Exactly Tony! It was those messed up terrorists no one likes. Not the country they were born in or there race.

  The terrorists weren't from Iraq. Iraq was invaded under the false pretense of weapons of mass destruction. Which they knew didn't exist.
• Primo Jul 27, 2011

  I heard rich people wipe their butts with $100 bills. If they used real toilet paper and gave their toilet paper to the homeless people on the streets with the signs we would have world peace.
• __Don_Line__ Jul 28, 2011

  Primo wrote:

  I heard rich people wipe their butts with $100 bills. If they used real toilet paper and gave their toilet paper to the homeless people on the streets with the signs we would have world peace.
  

  If you mean that rich people use money more, then yes. I mean, you're rich. You have a big house. OF COURSE YOU USE MORE MONEY.
• Coolio Jul 30, 2011

  I see in the news today that Apple now has more cash than US treasury.
  US treasury has 44.8B in cash on it's books compared to Apples 46.3B
  News also claims the US is currently spending 122B more than it collects in tax revenue each month!
  How long can this go on
• Johnny Cage Jul 31, 2011

  Coolio wrote:

  I see in the news today that Apple now has more cash than US treasury.
  US treasury has 44.8B in cash on it's books compared to Apples 46.3B
  News also claims the US is currently spending 122B more than it collects in tax revenue each month!
  How long can this go on
  

  Power and the money, money and the power, minute after minute, hour after hour....
• Nailz was here Jul 31, 2011

  Johnny Cage wrote:

  Cut spending, raise taxes... Not that difficult....
  
• Spooky Ooky Jul 31, 2011

  🔥⚡S1dшжSw1pш⚡🔥 wrote:

  BlindLuck🔫🌊🗻 wrote:

  carl johnson wrote:

  Obamas raising taxes on millionares and billionaires
  

  Yeah, that's bullshit. Every should be taxed the same.

  Then some people wouldhave less than zero income, including soldiers and many other people. Hell, if they all had the tax a doctor gets, they wouldbe in debt for most of their life after a year. Tax cant be all the same.

  I think the rich shouldn't mind the one less bentley in their garage.

  People complain that the Econ is going to shit. But they still complain when the govt tries to fix it.

  Never will everyone be satisfied

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