Scottish independence
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Yay or nay and where are you from....
The union jack without the Scottish blue looks good. IMO.
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Go ahead, Scotland. Make my day...
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I don't know why scots, welsh hell Cornish want independence..
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krissharm wrote:
Because it allows us to control our own economics,take back our industries and do what is right for our people,what is good for London is not always good for the rest of the so called "United Kingdom".I don't know why scots, welsh hell Cornish want independence..
Take down the Union Jack.....It clashes with the sunset!
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krissharm wrote:
The same reason America wanted independence probably. And "un- United kingdom"s are oppressiveI don't know why scots, welsh hell Cornish want independence..
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fydge wrote:
The main reason the US had independence is because they were getting taxed to hell. Can't blame the US for that.krissharm wrote:
The same reason America wanted independence probably. And "un- United kingdom"s are oppressiveI don't know why scots, welsh hell Cornish want independence..
Handywearz that's a very valid reason. -
Yep. Full independence for Scotland. No more English money going north of the border. Bin the Barnett Formular. Your on your own, Scotty.
Nope. Mealy mouthed, half arsed, 'we need money, Westminster', but we want free prescriptions, and university places. Give us yer cash, and a 'freedom' to spend it on ourselves. -
Has nothing neccessarily to do with some "braveheart type nostalgia" ... I suppport independence because i dont think that "one size fits all policies" decided by london necessarily apply to the whole of the united kingdom in a uniform way.
Globalisation means that borders arent necessarily constraints on trade, movement of people etc anymore. Its simply a way of determining ppolicies fit for the locality (scotland in this case but can apply anywhere)
I hate when these scottish people claim independence on some braveheart thing, and when english claim werre stealingg "their" money. Both are muppets! :p if thwt was the case, surely the MAJORITY english MPs in westminster would have got "rid of us a long time ago".
My english mother, and scottish father both support independece because its right for scotland, its economy and therefore my future. Good enough reason for me!
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It would pretty much only damage Scotland, we give them a lot more money than they can make on their own. They make most of their own rules anyway. Plus what about business that can at the moment freely travel across the border? That would be damaged.
All that would happen is Scotland who lose a lot of money so Alex Sammond can gain more power over Scotland. -
What of the oil platforms in Scottish waters who owns the income to them if Scotland were to be separated?
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fydge wrote:
Taxation without representation?krissharm wrote:
The same reason America wanted independence probably. And "un- United kingdom"s are oppressiveI don't know why scots, welsh hell Cornish want independence..
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krissharm wrote:
The oil companies do but Scotland would get a cut unlike at the moment where like the fisheries Norway gets the cut due to some crazy arsed deal made by the "UK" goverment to ease relations with the "EU" (Another farce that doesnt benefit Scotland or England for that matter).What of the oil platforms in Scottish waters who owns the income to them if Scotland were to be separated?
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Howard wrote:
How would border crossing be damaged? We are talking UK not EU and all members of the EU have free travel within it.It would pretty much only damage Scotland, we give them a lot more money than they can make on their own. They make most of their own rules anyway. Plus what about business that can at the moment freely travel across the border? That would be damaged.
All that would happen is Scotland who lose a lot of money so Alex Sammond can gain more power over Scotland.
Scotland is more than capable of covering its own economy,the only real losers in a UK breakdown is England but even with the lost income from Scotland and Wales England will more than cope...they just wont have the floating balance for crap like the olympics and millenium domes.....for a few decades anyway. -
prima nocta
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Fuck every Englishman,in sight.for ever
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Lol I think it's funny that in an opinion poll more English wanted independence than the scots. Why? Because scots know where their bread is buttered.
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Okay, to summarise....you're all talking bullsh*t. It is a fact that under no circumstances would the scottish economy go under. Scotland as well as england,wales....are more than capable of supporting themselves. You think that english taxpayers subsidise the rest of the uk? So why is england in a union with the rest? Obviously a mutual benefit. And for all those anglo's thinking they rule the uk, remember it was james I of scotland who merged the crowns and the kingdoms, so we rule bitches :p phaha
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Cost per capita in Scotland has generally always been highest in uk. Add to that your free tuition and healthcare bonuses i would say that makes your bread pretty buttered. I'm not knocking scotland but I'm all for letting them look after themselves as I'm sure they can. Ps u can keep Andy Murray
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Scotland should have independence!!! Then when its not working out for them England can invade them and take over without them moaning ;)
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Scottish independence suits me. Way more money goes north than comes south.
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messrine wrote:
Made me chuckle 👆prima nocta
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randombloke wrote:
Primae noctis was never used in Scotland,it was used by the English on the English & was the right of Lords to take his subjects daughters virginity not thier wifes....keep laughing.messrine wrote:
Made me chuckle 👆prima nocta
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I say let us have a go. If things get ropey we can join Scandinavia. Our life expectancy and our wages will skyrocket.......
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TMT wrote:
Haha i like :pI say let us have a go. If things get ropey we can join Scandinavia. Our life expectancy and our wages will skyrocket.......
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longjohn wrote:
Yep and your ability to drink would be taxed higher than it is nowTMT wrote:
Haha i like :pI say let us have a go. If things get ropey we can join Scandinavia. Our life expectancy and our wages will skyrocket.......
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1 reason why you can't get independence. The union jack would look crap without your blue D:
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Yawwwwn (tm el gato grande)
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Shaitan wrote:
Wrong on revenue maybe but in terms of the massive increase in costs like actually having your own healthcare system and paying for university would not leave you anywhere near the likes of Saudi arabia.If Scotland obtains indipendance we would be one of the top 10 riches countries. Thats fact
Also the current situation doesn't work scottish mps vote on uk laws but then have their own rules such as no university fees and free prescriptions.
An actually united kingdom with the same rules everywhere would be fair. -
Superyan wrote:
Wrong! Lol I like it without the blue.1 reason why you can't get independence. The union jack would look crap without your blue D:
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The British know that without the Scots or Welshman they would suffer greatly. They fear another northern Ireland.
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Doubt that! welsh and scots would not do without England! England wouldnt survive without London ffs
London pays the way for all thaw why Manchester has been under massive development for the last 20years to spread the wealth divide!
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