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syrus wrote:
No, not really. You know... The vast majority in the government are honest people, following the law the best they can, and avoiding bad press at all costs by being open and direct about their policies, mistakes, and triumphs for the people.Alot to read and digest at 12:30am lol but ive learnt more here thn i would on regular news. Just goes to show how much the gov. Actually shields the truth from the public ✌
It would be very hard to use the military in a dishonest way without tons of whistle-blowing. Seriously, what's in it for them to lie about what happened?
Don't believe it.
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Hypothetically speaking,just as good a question would be what isn't in it for them for lying ? without a long drawn out argument brown, yep I agree 99% of gov employees officials etc are good honest ppl putting food on table and to all intents and purposes really believe in what they doing and that they helping,or part of it! But if there are those that are on hidden agenda it wouldn't be farfetched to manipulate those people using there want to earn and also help n do good! And as for whistle blowing, if they are being manipulated then they would be covered by said laws or plans that the few dishonest(powerfully people) that arereay pulling the strings! And im not saying if they are or who doing what, just a generalisation !
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As u said in another thread about dog eat dog and is it wrong? Well where is the line drawn in that analogy? i.e if it's all out in open like a boxingmatch the stronger wins etc and all see,but to what extent will someone go to remain top dog? Unless u can hand on heart say u can account for each and every persons desires an how far is too far for them,then it is an unknown variable....that IMO is not far fetched at all
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So you say it's not far fetched for Obama's chief of staff to direct seal team 6 and their superiors to pretend to shoot UBL, pretend to bring him to Afghanistan, have the medical troops forge the DNA test, or say they did it when the didn't. Ask them to please remain quiet about the fact that we caught him a year ago because it will help him get re-elected...
That we staged the burial at sea for the benefit of the entire crew of the carrier....
That we asked the Pakistani troops and government (who don't like us) to stay hush about his compound really containing innocent civilians, which were slaughtered to maintain the realism...
We are also asking Al Queda to go along with the ruse as well. He's been gone for a year, but please tell everyone that he disappeared on the first of may this year, thanks.
I don't think there is any way in the world that web site is on to anything but shallow conspiracy theory tripe.
Don't you agree?
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Don't you agree?
I'm not talking about any one specific brown I haven't even looked at that, as to be honest it probably conspiracy propaganda, making a generalisation brown -
I believe he dead,I believe that USA gov did all they could so as to not be targeted as being disrespectful to Muslim faith, I believe that they would of taken a step further and buried him completely to Muslim tradition had it not been for worries of shrine and martyr behaviour, the DNA bit I don't know,but I'm sure if he was alive he would be making every attempt to ridicule USA and prove he still here,he is dead that's for sure
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And whatever u think of me,I dnt go blindly following and searchingfor conspiracy theories or any little thing to hang onto to proof gov wrong, I follow leads that have intrest and meaningto me, if it then takes me to somewhere I'll mistaken what said and look at other side and weigh up, when i see sites like this, although hArd for u to believe probably ,I do give them a wide birth, I kno that they wouldn't play with something like this for many reasons, even just the fact of losingfaith support and votes of the american ppp,let alone the personal level of family and friends of those that suffered in these atrocities
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I'm just saying that in some situations there are dubious motives forwhy some things happen as they do, and even if u put down to mistake or coincidence u canonical so many times, and even them when u scratch at surface majority of them have their reasonings, but the ones that dont do stick out like sore thumb, and sometimes I just think that they donthelp themselves in the meaning of disproving them, and afterall it intheif intrest to disprove as they need the ppl trust and faith in them to retain power,and we know that power is bottom line!
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Brown🎵POTUS 👊🔨💀 wrote:
syrus wrote:
No, not really. You know... The vast majority in the government are honest people, following the law the best they can, and avoiding bad press at all costs by being open and direct about their policies, mistakes, and triumphs for the people.Alot to read and digest at 12:30am lol but ive learnt more here thn i would on regular news. Just goes to show how much the gov. Actually shields the truth from the public ✌
It would be very hard to use the military in a dishonest way without tons of whistle-blowing. Seriously, what's in it for them to lie about what happened?
Don't believe it.
Fair point
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The worst that happens is petty dirty politics for individual self interest. Little things that they can get away with. Conspiracy theories involving "the government" are bunk. Period. It's designed to work that way. Any crooked behavior is bound to be noticed by people that have an interest in exposing the wrong-doer for their own gain.
The world trade center, the moon landings, the federal reserve, Roswell, vaccines, all that crap, simply can't be pulled off without a vast majority of support by political adversaries. That doesn't happen. It's really that simple.
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I dnt think it would be impossible to use the military or any resource in dishonest way, think it wouldn't be easy, but then again it just depends on how well e stage was set up, like reverse phycology to use an analogy, if it's made to be what the people would choose themselves then they whole heartedly would give their selves to it no questions, depends how much influence they have(and again being hypothetical) we know military might has been used to gain power they dishonest ways throughout history, diff is nowadays peopl more aware and many more ways to be caught out etc, so just takes a different form ,the one thing great civilisations gave learnt through ages is the pen is mightier than sword,brute strength and dominance isn't gonna get anyone anywhere nowadays these battles are fought in the people minds first,then u have willingness, IMO opinion given the right setup planning oversight,whatever this is achievable,to what degrees I dnt know,
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Truth always comes out, and time can't be stopped, therefor one day the truth(whatever it may be) will be known (or at least a big chunk if it will be,maybe not every single detail) and another thing history has taught us is ,sometimes the truth us stranger than fiction, I just leave myself open to possibilities because we know from history,and if it's happened b4 it can happen again that's just logical! But for every generation we counteract the the things that were weak points b4, so does that mean we cancel out possibilities for these "conspiracy theories/truths whatever" no I dnt think so, it's like cat n mouse, the criminals find a way,the police/government counteract, that doesn't stop them just makes the criminals change tactics,and until we learn and uncover said tactics we are vulnerable, and I believe that would be a good analogy for what we talking bout here
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I agree with u 85%,I just think there are certain things,for example Not sayin conspiracy about vaccines,was done in best intrest,but to admit a mistake and that it could and has been detrimental to those people would leave the governebt awnsersble for compensation etc,u can't get away from fact that with vaccinations that they go against what the immune system is there for,through orifices full stop, that's simple biology(being specific with this one cos sister is in middle of it and mum is speaking with leading authorities governebt ex gov and independent,it's same as human trait of admiring made a mistake,if things were proper then people would realise that they dun it in our intrest everyone was happy yay we an have protection etc,but when goes wrong another human trait they automatically want to point the finger,not conspiracy but human learning curve, but I think it has alot to do with development and learning thru mistakes,but system set up such a way that it would be damning to admit the mistake
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When really we are all a part of a learning curve, it's like someone saying to u oh I got brilliant investment, and u goin for it and it shits out, u can't blame the guy,u made the choice, but what should be done is te guy who proposed investment should admit he got wrong, but he himself invested and lost out, that's basically essence of what I'm saying with most things, just be honest when we mess up and let people make informed decisions, I too have made bad mistakes just try and learn from them
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I think in inevitable, but the world always playing catch up because plain and simple the people want their cake and eat it, and the governebt is in a position to try and keep up n fulfil these things, and in the meantime the real goals and objectives get lost, to "as u said" power and greed,gov feel pressured to deliver as ppl are very demanding and as we see cone every election promises that can't be fulfilled,typical humans hear what want,like investment analogy,it's a good idea when they look to gain but when crap out dnt want to take responsibilities but blame the person who "we" trusted/elected,n so the cycle goes, I don't have the awnsers or details,I can't see every level of it,n that's why each and everyone of us and our opinions matter, but again human traits, so wrapped our opinions we lose sight of the true goal.Although I believe eventually we will all see that same common goal,n our emotions and experiences(personal)are needed as it's what drives u buy also what gets in the way, a paradox
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And I guess that awnsers my question as to how has it taken us soo long to reach common ground(which we still haven't) but conversations like this is the way forward I believe,for me all I can do is call what i see,and try to add different perspectives whether they MY beliefs or not,devils advocate, stimulate ideas n think outside the box cos everything is a possible reality,whether dark and underhanded of just a course of events that spiralled one way,even if cemented in belief and have facts,we still have to be open and consider all others,like a kid who had a good childhood but says how bad it was etc,u still have to hear him out as parents as it's relative to him and his situation,it's all of our situation(world affairs I mean) so therefor each and everyone of us need to give each other time of day,and that gives us diff perspective and another pair of eyes to see the world,for all its good and bad
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Kennedy, Elvis, and Osama are playing rock band in area 51 with Obama doing guest vocals. True.
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