What if: the British never won the battle of Quebec?
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Well for starters, Canada and the U.S would probably be speaking French. Also, the French may not have raised taxes to pay for the war, so prehaps there would be no war of independance, so the U.S would not be the global superpower it is today. Finally, the French helped the U.S in the war against the British, because we hate each other. So if there was a war of independance, it could be 🇬🇧 and 🇺🇸 against 🇫🇷. Finally, mainland Europe could have been under Nazi control, and if D-day did go ahead, it may have cost a lot more troops for Britain and it's conolies
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Feel free to post more theories.
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what if Haiti had oil?
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ha,exactly
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killer 66 wrote:
So if you go back in time that can make the world differentWell for starters, Canada and the U.S would probably be speaking French. Also, the French may not have raised taxes to pay for the war, so prehaps there would be no war of independance, so the U.S would not be the global superpower it is today. Finally, the French helped the U.S in the war against the British, because we hate each other. So if there was a war of independance, it could be 🇬🇧 and 🇺🇸 against 🇫🇷. Finally, mainland Europe could have been under Nazi control, and if D-day did go ahead, it may have cost a lot more troops for Britain and it's conolies
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do you think history defines who you are?not for me.the world is full of assholes,and it doesn't take much to see them.I only listen to certain people,that make me think about my concieved ideas,and how wrong I can be about them
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money is the driver,and we are paying passengers,the public wants what the public gets,news in 1700 took a lot longer to get about,but the principle is still the same,it's all for the greater good.we are all savages
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in answer to the question,it would all be exactly the same*insert name of country here*
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old school,still think of 39-45.and America is one of the great libertarian nations.Alistair Cooke says it all about the place,for me
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thank fuck for Obama
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It's a bit early for Friday night drinks
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Well I am glad you cleared that up mess, next thread.
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I sort of agreed with the original premise until the last, if America was run by France, then it would have been brought into the war far before than it historically did. Thus ending the Nazi attempt at empire building at an earlier stage. Maybe enough to stop the holocaust and maybe the pacific fighting too. Possibly negating the need for the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombs and the subsequent nuclear arms race would have been affected?
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slugboy wrote:
Controversial, I like itI sort of agreed with the original premise until the last, if America was run by France, then it would have been brought into the war far before than it historically did. Thus ending the Nazi attempt at empire building at an earlier stage. Maybe enough to stop the holocaust and maybe the pacific fighting too. Possibly negating the need for the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombs and the subsequent nuclear arms race would have been affected?
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"what if fiction" is a favourite of mine.
I heartily recommend s m stirling- conquistador and h beam piper- lord kalvan of otherwhen (gunpowder god, American title) to anyone -
What if this post never existed?
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💔Kid 🔨🔥💀 wrote:
Then u would get back 5 minutes of ure life, but what would u waste it on next😜🐒What if this post never existed?
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Everything is what is and we are what we are, we can't change what has been but we have control of will be.
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slugboy wrote:
Must do"what if fiction" is a favourite of mine.
I heartily recommend s m stirling- conquistador and h beam piper- lord kalvan of otherwhen (gunpowder god, American title) to anyone -
slugboy wrote:
I like that. A good response. I will respond to that in the fact that A. The U.S could be only the 13 colonies, and B. what if the war of independance against France happend, and the U.S refused to help thier former enemies? Any response allowed.I sort of agreed with the original premise until the last, if America was run by France, then it would have been brought into the war far before than it historically did. Thus ending the Nazi attempt at empire building at an earlier stage. Maybe enough to stop the holocaust and maybe the pacific fighting too. Possibly negating the need for the Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombs and the subsequent nuclear arms race would have been affected?
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If the bagel was never invented, neither would the doughnut. Without the doughnut America would lose a whopping percentage of it's economy and be forced to take desperate measures... America would have had to back against the UN by the 6 day war, letting Israel keep the sainai desert giving America a perfect landing point to invade saudia Arabia to take the oil refineries for itself to compensate for the lacking in the economy. And with resources being diverted to the Saudi invasion, the soviet union would of had a free hand to invade most of mainland Europe, with such an easy victory, The soviet union would have no need for sleeper agents which would have caused the failure of the assassination of John F Kennedy who would have won the Cold war anyways...so it would have made little difference.
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Crackpot theories are allowed?
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Lol
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If my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle. Who gives a damn?
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Oh yeah, and the Zanderian empire will defend its yawnish allies against your aggression, killer.
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If the US was ruled by France...
Nick might not exist OR he might be somewhere else speaking French instead of English...
WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT TURF WARS WOULDN'T EXIST!!!
Thank Britain for winning the Turf War for Turf Wars! -
Zanderaw wrote:
Lol Zanderian..............can I call my empire the Skymanian empire? (even if it's not an empire?)Oh yeah, and the Zanderian empire will defend its yawnish allies against your aggression, killer.
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If the war of independence did happen with France, then, asides cultural differences I would expect the timeline to be pretty similar. Even taking the premise (not helping former enemies) I can't see America not joining the war after the pearl harbour attack, regardless of the anti France stance.
Oddly, if France had owned USA, Britain would probably had a better relationship with Americans. As often the empire building was more to do with trade than real-estate. Without the problems of a history of taxation and war, the trade between uk and USA would have been much greater. Tho I doubt enough to stop the great depression. And it's knock on effects.
Only things I can see is America would likely be more tea drinkers than coffee and the flag would be different. (the guy who designed the American flag's family was originally from England, and the flag bears notable design features with the old family coat of arms) -
That war had to be paid for somehow, as well as the one that would likely happen when Britain got pissed about losing their foothold on this continent. That war is hard to predict who would win since both motherlands have to send troops here, but at the same time the fighting could have spread to all respective colonies and even to motherlands in an effort to save money. First world war could have happened much earlier...
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The war would have been paid for same as it was in this history. Britain wouldn't have worried about not having it as the King at the time didn't think USA was worth the effort (see the half hearted attempt to hold onto it during the war of independence).
Only if trading routes were compromised would uk have intervened militarily (see the Indian takeover attempt by France and subsequent inclusion into the empire by the uk military) -
That war was being paid for by the colonists, ie the taxation that caused them to rebel. King george's attempts were half hearted because he didn't think the colonists were a real threat. They had invested tons of money in starting the tobacco colonies and were banking by buying natural resources from colonies and then selling actual products back to colonists with prices marked up and heavily taxed. And the trading routes would have disturbed because there is no way France is going to let colonies keep trading with Britain, just like Britain didn't allow them to trade with France.
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