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Gray Mane 3 hours ago Quote
In organisms it is a general principle that all species produce more individuals than the environment can sustain. Consequently, most species are limited by predation, dietary stress, and disease unless they are able to expand into other environments. Humans have been the most successful animal in this matter. Although when the carrying capacity of our habitat is reach mother nature will begin to even out natural increase it's known as the regulating factor.Indeed but when in the history of our planet has one organism made such massive changes to the whole ecology of our planet, no other creature has the ability to change weather for example. I fear we have the ability to make changes that this planet cannot recover from, once the atmosphere is gone the planet will be dead, we are trying are hardest to achive this from where i am standing
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The best think the Earth can do is thin out our numbers with a major ice age, then things will be better and more balanced.
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Jimmy Needles wrote:
Well we are the most successful animal in the world because we adapt ourselves (with tools for example) in a matter of hours or days. We killed our ugly competitors (Neanderthals) and became at the top of the food chain. So we were succesful because we were logical. We made tools and we farmed. Farmed! We did something no animal has EVER done before.The best think the Earth can do is thin out our numbers with a major ice age, then things will be better and more balanced.
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krissharm wrote:
There's already been an invention that could provide clean drinking water for the entire planet for 10 bil$. But that wouldn't make anyone money. The food shortage is caused by us feeding animals such as cows and then us eating them. If we stopped trying to produce beef and started eating insects (ex locusts) we could increase the amount of food we have by like 9x. For the amount of feed it takes to produce 1kg of beef we could produce 9kg of locust meat. Which is the land version of shrimp.Yes the world is too full, we are documented to be heading for a food and water crisis because of the over population.
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Kozy wrote:
Cool. The problem is we have too many people afraid of creepy crawlies. ๐๐๐๐krissharm wrote:
There's already been an invention that could provide clean drinking water for the entire planet for 10 bil$. But that wouldn't make anyone money. The food shortage is caused by us feeding animals such as cows and then us eating them. If we stopped trying to produce beef and started eating insects (ex locusts) we could increase the amount of food we have by like 9x. For the amount of feed it takes to produce 1kg of beef we could produce 9kg of locust meat. Which is the land version of shrimp.Yes the world is too full, we are documented to be heading for a food and water crisis because of the over population.
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Bug infestation! ๐ฑ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐
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Idiots. China is the most crowded. They have like, a fucking eight of the worlds population. It's ridiculous. Over 1.5 Bill people over there =O
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Neko wrote:
Too many Chinese for my liking ๐Idiots. China is the most crowded. They have like, a fucking eight of the worlds population. It's ridiculous. Over 1.5 Bill people over there =O
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Evil Joey wrote:
Actually other animals farm. Ants farm, they grow fungi on leaf mould and eat the fungi. They herd aphids on plants and feed off the sugary waste product they create.Jimmy Needles wrote:
Well we are the most successful animal in the world because we adapt ourselves (with tools for example) in a matter of hours or days. We killed our ugly competitors (Neanderthals) and became at the top of the food chain. So we were succesful because we were logical. We made tools and we farmed. Farmed! We did something no animal has EVER done before.The best think the Earth can do is thin out our numbers with a major ice age, then things will be better and more balanced.
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Lol Iv got an amazing image in my mind of grazing aphids being herded by ants on beetle back!
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juggle0 wrote:
Lol it's actually not far from the truth, with the exception of the beetles! I have a rose bush in my garden and the ants position the aphids in rows and they produce a chemical to keep the aphids docile, then they just stand around like sugar-pimps! LolLol Iv got an amazing image in my mind of grazing aphids being herded by ants on beetle back!
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Also insects are way more successful than humans, and will be there long after we all die out.
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Jimmy Needles wrote:
Considering Iv been studying all day, that is by far the most memorable amazing thing I have learnt today lol!juggle0 wrote:
Lol it's actually not far from the truth, with the exception of the beetles! I have a rose bush in my garden and the ants position the aphids in rows and they produce a chemical to keep the aphids docile, then they just stand around like sugar-pimps! LolLol Iv got an amazing image in my mind of grazing aphids being herded by ants on beetle back!
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Awesome ๐ Ants are boss! They do all kinds of crazy shit!
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Actually scientists are researching space ships that run on anti-matter (something that's a bit like a 'natural resource' of space) so it picks up feul as it travels. Problem is locating this 'black matter'
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El Borges wrote:
They are already making antimatter at CERN, anti-hydrogen to be precise. Problem isnt locating or making it, it's keeping it isolated from matter, you'd need a perfect vacuum chamber to store it.Actually scientists are researching space ships that run on anti-matter (something that's a bit like a 'natural resource' of space) so it picks up feul as it travels. Problem is locating this 'black matter'
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Actually scratch that, there is a big problem in making it, as we'd need to increase production by a trillion percent to get anything near what's needed to power propulsion.
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Kozy wrote:
krissharm wrote:
There's already been an invention that could provide clean drinking water for the entire planet for 10 bil$. But that wouldn't make anyone money. The food shortage is caused by us feeding animals such as cows and then us eating them. If we stopped trying to produce beef and started eating insects (ex locusts) we could increase the amount of food we have by like 9x. For the amount of feed it takes to produce 1kg of beef we could produce 9kg of locust meat. Which is the land version of shrimp.Yes the world is too full, we are documented to be heading for a food and water crisis because of the over population.
this is one of the most disturbing yet fascinating things i've read in a while.
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Insects are tasty! Leaf-cutter ants dry roasted taste like bacon popcorn!
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That's why the gov' kills us with all these new things.. H1n1, mad cow, silly turkey, wasn't there something with chickens?
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I think il stick to my bloody rare steak, chips and mushy peas thanks!
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juggle0 wrote:
eeeeewww! Mushy peas = green ๐ฉI think il stick to my bloody rare steak, chips and mushy peas thanks!
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Good for u joey
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krissharm wrote:
๐๐๐๐Good for u joey
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MrMojo wrote:
Well on google earth you can go to the moon and mars, so the maps are there.....Capo di Capo wrote:
I bet Google's already got the maps setupTurf wars on mars! LOL, that would be cool! Maybe travel there with a special loot item. First one to get a turf on mars get's a beer from me. Cheers!
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Too many chincs and japs
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Crichly wrote:
lol I knowToo many chincs and japs
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Evil Joey wrote:
AgreedCrichly wrote:
lol I knowToo many chincs and japs
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makuni wrote:
Gray Mane 3 hours ago Quote
Indeed but when in the history of our planet has one organism made such massive changes to the whole ecology of our planet, no other creature has the ability to change weather for example. I fear we have the ability to make changes that this planet cannot recover from, once the atmosphere is gone the planet will be dead, we are trying are hardest to achive this from where i am standing
Good layman points but if one looks at the Development of the atmosphere over several millions of years it is obvious the impact we have on this scale is tiny. The earth would recover. Not to say humans have the ability to destroy all life but I highly disagree with it happening by atmospheric degradation. Cirtainly we could reduce life to the bacterial level however
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Well I defiantly think there's too many people...that should be obvious. Someone mentioned farming though and how no animal has ever done that. Yes by the strict definition that's true. But if you think a little broader bees pollinate flowers from pollen they pick up in there travels. The now pollinated flowers grow into more food for them. Like I say, I agree with you strictly speaking. But if someone has the stand point of "we're just animals" it can be argued.
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