Canada–United States relations
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Canada and the United States have had a long and complex relationship that has had a significant impact on each other's history, economy, and shared culture.[1] The two countries have long considered themselves among the "closest allies".[2][3] They share the longest border (8,891 km (5,525 mi)) between any two sovereign states in the world.[4] Both Americans and Canadians have historically ranked each other as one of their respective "favorite nations".[5][6] Notwithstanding, the two countries' relations saw rapid deterioration during President Donald Trump's second term due to his 2025 tariffs and annexation threats towards Canada,[7] with 2025 surveys suggesting increased distrust of the United States leadership by Canadians.
Canadians and Americans, what are your thought of the current situation?
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As a Canadian. I still consider Americans our best neighbors. But currently . The current leader is not interested in being neighbors. He interest in taking us over ….. just imagine if we told Trump we want the USA to become our 11th province. Wonder how that would go over
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It’s all Trump and this current administration, everything they said about Canada is false and outright lying to the American people. Both countries need each other to thrive.
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i dont need canadians 😒
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except.... some of their whiskey. 🥃
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Give him back the puck
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
Your citizenship is not yet revoked, but definitely being questioned.except.... some of their whiskey. 🥃
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༦ᵑɴͦᴇͫxͣxͩ༤ wrote:
Canada is top 5 in the world for whiskey.★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
Your citizenship is not yet revoked, but definitely being questioned.except.... some of their whiskey. 🥃
1 - Ireland
2 - Japan
3 - UK
4 - USA
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★DΞICIDΞ★ wrote:
You may not need Canadians but America does.i dont need canadians 😒
Canada is highly essential to the U.S. for energy security, critical mineral supply chains, and economic integration, serving as its largest or second-largest trading partner, with over US$600 billion in goods exchanged annually. While political rhetoric suggests a lack of need, 60% of U.S. heavy crude oil imports, substantial lumber, and various materials come from Canada, supporting U.S. supply chains and reducing reliance on other nations.
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Key Aspects of the U.S.-Canada Relationship:
Energy and Resources: The U.S. imports a significant portion of its energy needs, including heavy crude oil for refineries and lumber for housing, from Canada.
Economic Integration: Canada is a key market for American exports, and the two economies are deeply integrated, with many goods crossing the border multiple times during production.
Security and Defense: As close neighbors, Canada is crucial for North American defense, collaborating on security measures.
Critical Minerals: Canada's vast resources, including minerals essential for technology, are strategically important to the U.S..
Trade Balance: While disputes sometimes arise over trade imbalances, Canada is generally considered an essential partner rather than a competitor for the United States.
Note: Political perspectives, particularly under the 2025-2029 Trump administration, have periodically downplayed this interdependence, preferring an "America First" approach to trade.
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BTW: Tariffs are a Tax on Americans paid by the American people.
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Also would like to add that the wall on the US-Mexico border was also paid by the American people.
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America first makes sense in some aspects though. For example, why even trade with Canada for lumber when we could get more than we need here if we created the infrastructure for it. This brings down costs for us and creates jobs here at home. It's not all about saying fuck our neighbors or the rest of the world. We have been buying the goods of the world for too long. Time to make our own and reappreciate a day of hard work.
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𖥠•𝕸𝖆𝖓𝖎𝖌𝖆𝖓•♘ wrote:
This is a fair point, now the question is, does the US have enough lumber to supply themselves? All the answers lead to a no.America first makes sense in some aspects though. For example, why even trade with Canada for lumber when we could get more than we need here if we created the infrastructure for it. This brings down costs for us and creates jobs here at home. It's not all about saying fuck our neighbors or the rest of the world. We have been buying the goods of the world for too long. Time to make our own and reappreciate a day of hard work.
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We have more than enough land/lumber just not the infrastructure to generate enough
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𖥠•𝕸𝖆𝖓𝖎𝖌𝖆𝖓•♘ wrote:
New data from the first quarter show that U.S. sawmills are operating at just 64.4% of their potential capacity — a number that’s actually dropped steadily since 2017.We have more than enough land/lumber just not the infrastructure to generate enough
In short, mills could produce more lumber, but they aren’t.
Why? With limited foreign competition and lumber prices already elevated, many producers have little incentive to ramp up. As a result, U.S. production has stayed mostly flat, even during the surging demand in 2021 and 2022. Employment has also taken a hit, with sawmill jobs declining for the third straight quarter.
Although demand has cooled slightly since the start of the year, there’s still not enough domestic supply to meet the industry’s needs. If U.S. output doesn’t respond and tariffs on Canadian lumber jump above 30% this fall, higher costs are inevitable.
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East Side Mario wrote:
𖥠•𝕸𝖆𝖓𝖎𝖌𝖆𝖓•♘ wrote:
This is a fair point, now the question is, does the US have enough lumber to supply themselves? All the answers lead to a no.America first makes sense in some aspects though. For example, why even trade with Canada for lumber when we could get more than we need here if we created the infrastructure for it. This brings down costs for us and creates jobs here at home. It's not all about saying fuck our neighbors or the rest of the world. We have been buying the goods of the world for too long. Time to make our own and reappreciate a day of hard work.
The Emerson’s would disagree- largest land owner in US - all Timbeland that they cannons harvest unless under salvage conditions
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Aka: Sierra Pacific Industries. Bill Gates is up there as well but his is mostly farmland after significant investments he made into Monsanto- it is 100% about infrastructure and govt regulations that are outdated and biased
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𖥠•𝕸𝖆𝖓𝖎𝖌𝖆𝖓•♘ wrote:
The smart thing to do would be develop infrastructure while slowly lowering reliance on Canada. Instead, we went with the nuclear option. It will be more costly and alienate large swaths of people that we also relied on for tourism and buying our goods.We have more than enough land/lumber just not the infrastructure to generate enough
You can say all day long we don’t need such and such a country or certain peoples, I don’t care about them, they’re not real, but the truth is, the US wouldn’t be the nation it is without many of them. We cannot do it alone, and trying to will ultimately be more/unnecessarily expensive. We prove nothing, and we are the loser.
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I never said they weren't real or that we shouldn't work together in some ways. Overall being as self sufficient as possible is the way to go, that is just common sense.
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I can say with 100% certainty that one group of apes is not looking to another group of apes 500 miles away for assistance. Human privilege!🤣
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