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Are they real? What about UFO sightings, any merit to them?
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No, and no.
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โธััปษขษสโัษฆวศถโง wrote:
Nothing is real, we live in a simulationNo, and no.
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Real. Prove me wrong
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โธััปษขษสโัษฆวศถโง wrote:
Yes, and yes.No, and no.
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โฃฤฏโญฯโฆวค๐น wrote:
I'm gonna need some support and facts to support all this. You're probably the only one that'll help me on this. Cm9n Viking. We got this!!!โธััปษขษสโัษฆวศถโง wrote:
Yes, and yes.No, and no.
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Cmon*
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Highly likely thereโs other life out there when you consider the vastness of the universe, however the distances involved mean itโs very unlikely we will ever encounter it. If we do it will most likely just be an AI sent by a long extinct civilisation.
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Ivory Harris wrote:
Sorry I was just messing with Roger. Iโll find something for you. Give me a bit.โฃฤฏโญฯโฆวค๐น wrote:
I'm gonna need some support and facts to support all this. You're probably the only one that'll help me on this. Cm9n Viking. We got this!!!โธััปษขษสโัษฆวศถโง wrote:
Yes, and yes.No, and no.
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Phwoar wrote:
I prefer the term โsynthetic intelligenceโ. Artificial is offensive to the machine overlords.Highly likely thereโs other life out there when you consider the vastness of the universe, however the distances involved mean itโs very unlikely we will ever encounter it. If we do it will most likely just be an AI sent by a long extinct civilisation.
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I donโt believe so, and I have seen some UFOs, but with all the tech in the government I just assume it is that.
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UFOs? Next youโll be talking about prompt theory like itโs real!
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The Boyd Bushman YouTube clip is the most interesting to me. Dude had top security clearance and would be exactly the type of person to be involved in something like this. The videos were quickly dismissed as a scam and some claimed he had dementia which watching the videos you can clearly tell he didnโt. The videos were pushed down search engine hits for years and are still harder to find than they should be.
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I think the odds of alien life existing are high, and intelligent alien life are still good, but much lesser, especially from what we have seen with life on Earth and the way solar systems form.
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Phwoar wrote:
Itโs possible to reach any point in the observable universe within a human lifetime if you go fast enough. Also, given improvements in health technology, whatโs to say we canโt extend our healthspan significantly?Highly likely thereโs other life out there when you consider the vastness of the universe, however the distances involved mean itโs very unlikely we will ever encounter it. If we do it will most likely just be an AI sent by a long extinct civilisation.
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Red viper wrote:
Regarding โgoing fast enoughโPhwoar wrote:
Itโs possible to reach any point in the observable universe within a human lifetime if you go fast enough. Also, given improvements in health technology, whatโs to say we canโt extend our healthspan significantly?Highly likely thereโs other life out there when you consider the vastness of the universe, however the distances involved mean itโs very unlikely we will ever encounter it. If we do it will most likely just be an AI sent by a long extinct civilisation.
We can never exceed the speed of light, in fact we canโt even come close, the faster you go the more energy required to go faster exponentially. Human bodies donโt fare well in low gravity either, I reckon youโd be lucky to survive 5+ continuous years in low gravity environments. Humans will exist and then become extinct in a tiny flicker of time compared to the universe -
I disagree with not being able to come close. There are definitely realistic ways to approach a significant portion of c, and with humans not doing well in zero-g, that is true. However, I do think some medical and bioengineering solutions that could mitigate or eliminate the effects of low-g environments on humans, as well as radiation effects.
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Red viper wrote:
No it isnโtPhwoar wrote:
Itโs possible to reach any point in the observable universe within a human lifetime if you go fast enough. Also, given improvements in health technology, whatโs to say we canโt extend our healthspan significantly?Highly likely thereโs other life out there when you consider the vastness of the universe, however the distances involved mean itโs very unlikely we will ever encounter it. If we do it will most likely just be an AI sent by a long extinct civilisation.
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๐๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐ wrote:
How is it not, given you go fast enough?Red viper wrote:
No it isnโtPhwoar wrote:
Itโs possible to reach any point in the observable universe within a human lifetime if you go fast enough. Also, given improvements in health technology, whatโs to say we canโt extend our healthspan significantly?Highly likely thereโs other life out there when you consider the vastness of the universe, however the distances involved mean itโs very unlikely we will ever encounter it. If we do it will most likely just be an AI sent by a long extinct civilisation.
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Red viper wrote:
Light takes about 100,000 years to cross our galaxy, nevermind the billions of years to cross the observable universe. We canโt even go close to the speed of light and certainly not past it, so a human lifetime is out of the question entirely, even the projected life of the sun wouldnโt be enough๐๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐ wrote:
How is it not, given you go fast enough?Red viper wrote:
No it isnโtPhwoar wrote:
Itโs possible to reach any point in the observable universe within a human lifetime if you go fast enough.Highly likely thereโs other life out there when you consider the vastness of the universe, however the distances involved mean itโs very unlikely we will ever encounter it. If we do it will most likely just be an AI sent by a long extinct civilisation.
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Light does take that long from our frame of reference, but from the point of view of light, it happens instantly due to the relative contraction of space at relativistic speeds. If we went fast enough, we could travel 100 light years in 1year from the POV of the traveller. Thatโs a very big If, granted, but itโs not physically impossible
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Red viper wrote:
But we canโt get to the speed of light, or close to it. So that 13 billion year radius isnโt a lifetime awayLight does take that long from our frame of reference, but from the point of view of light, it happens instantly due to the relative contraction of space at relativistic speeds. If we went fast enough, we could travel 100 light years in 1year from the POV of the traveller. Thatโs a very big If, granted, but itโs not physically impossible
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๐๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐ wrote:
Would you say itโs impossible to get close to the speed of light (and if so up to what % would be realistic) or that itโs impossible with current technology? Second, how long do you think a human lifespan could be extended to in the near and/or far future?Red viper wrote:
But we canโt get to the speed of light, or close to it. So that 13 billion year radius isnโt a lifetime awayLight does take that long from our frame of reference, but from the point of view of light, it happens instantly due to the relative contraction of space at relativistic speeds. If we went fast enough, we could travel 100 light years in 1year from the POV of the traveller. Thatโs a very big If, granted, but itโs not physically impossible
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I think a huge factor for human life expectancy, especially in the United States, is all of our processed food and the thousands of chemicals that we allow into them. I think with a balance of current medical technology and implementing healthy diets, and natural supplements for the various issues humans face, we can make a lot of progress. People are quick to look towards technology instead of trying to better understand the physical nature of our bodies and what we put into them. I just want to live as long and happy as I can naturally. Hopefully a solid 90 years at least, but I donโt care to use technology to extend my life and would refuse to participate in it (AI/robotic uses not traditional life saving surgeries). I find it sad some people are unable to accept death. All I know is my great grandparents generation(farmers) hit 90-100 fairly often and it seems with people my grandparents age are dying 70-80s more frequently. Why were my older relatives living longer than ones with all of this technology?
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แต๐กแตฃ ๐๐ฏ๐ฝ๐๐ป๐๐๐๐ฏ๐ฎโข wrote:
Not necessarily advocating for it but why would people care about the nature of our bodies when technology does a better job at being our bodies than our bodies themselves? For example, an artificial heart valve will last much longer than our natural heart valves. There are many other examples tooI think a huge factor for human life expectancy, especially in the United States, is all of our processed food and the People are quick to look towards technology instead of trying to better understand the physical nature of our bodies and what we put into them. I just want to live aso accept death. All I know is my great grandparents generation(farmers) hit 90-100 fairly often and it seems with people my grandparents age are dying 70-80s more frequently. Why were my older relatives living longer than ones with all of this technology?
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YOU wrote:
I think itโs inevitable to stop this human-technology merge that we are becoming more and more intertwined with. If that is the case, health wonโt be nearly as big of a problem for deep space explorations.แต๐กแตฃ ๐๐ฏ๐ฝ๐๐ป๐๐๐๐ฏ๐ฎโข wrote:
Not necessarily advocating for it but why would people care about the nature of our bodies when technology does a better job at being our bodies than our bodies themselves? For example, an artificial heart valve will last much longer than our natural heart valves. There are many other examples tooI think a huge factor for human life expectancy, especially inow is my great grandparents generation(farmers) hit 90-100 fairly often and it seems with people my grandparents age are dying 70-80s more frequently. Why were my older relatives living longer than ones with all of this technology?
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แต๐กแตฃ ๐๐ฏ๐ฝ๐๐ป๐๐๐๐ฏ๐ฎโข wrote:
I am not afraid of death, I hate it. Itโs like the whole universe created us just to play this cruel joke on us. Iโd rather choose when I go, and have it be on my terms. Anyway, this technology would be optional, but I could see most people using it to extended their lives at least a few decades longer.People are quick to look towards technology instead of trying to better understand the physical nature of our bodies and what we put into them. I just want to live as long and happy as I can naturally. Hopefully a solid 90 years at least, but I donโt care to use technology to extend my life and would refuse to participate in it (AI/robotic uses not traditional life saving surgeries). I find it sad some people are unable to accept death.
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Red viper wrote:
I donโt think a person (robotically enhanced or not) could survive anywhere near light speed, our current tech wouldnโt allow it either.๐๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐ wrote:
Red viper wrote:
But we canโt get to the speed of light, or close to it. So that 13 billion year radius isnโt a lifetime awayLight does take that long from our frame of reference, but from the point of view of light, it happens instantly due to the relative contraction of space at relativistic speeds. If we went fast enough, we could travel 100 light years in 1year from the POV of the traveller. Thatโs a very big If, granted, but itโs not physically impossible
I think robotics are good in small doses, pacemakers and such, enough to keep your human organs ticking over. If you start adding in too much itโs not a human life youโre extending there -
๐๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐ wrote:
Why does it have to be light speed? There is some crazy quantum teleportation technology coming out of the U.S. and China. That could be a very possible solution in the future.Red viper wrote:
I donโt think a person (robotically enhanced or not) could survive anywhere near light speed, our current tech wouldnโt allow it either.๐๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐ wrote:
Red viper wrote:
But we canโt get to the speed of light, or close to it. So that 13 billion year radius isnโt a lifetime awayLight does take that long from impossible
I think robotics are good in small doses, pacemakers and such, enough to keep your human organs ticking over. If you start adding in too much itโs not a human life youโre extending there -
๐๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐ wrote:
I would also argue the human soul or conscious is more important anyways. As long as you can save that, who cares if they are mostly machine or not?Red viper wrote:
I donโt think a person (robotically enhanced or not) could survive anywhere near light speed, our current tech wouldnโt allow it either.๐๐๐๐๐๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐๐ wrote:
Red viper wrote:
But we canโt get to the speed of light, or close to it. So that 13 billion year radius isnโt a lifetime awayLight does take that long from our frame of reference, but from impossible
I think robotics are good in small doses, pacemakers and such, enough to keep your human organs ticking over. If you start adding in too much itโs not a human life youโre extending there -
My only UFO story is that I one time saw what looked like a bunch of flashing lights descending down from space in the middle of the night. It turns out that I was just really drunk, and the flashing lights were just regular stars that I was seeing with double vision.
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