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★DΞΛTH ROW★ wrote:
I’m with ya 100%. I don’t put stickers on my car because I don’t want it keyed. I don’t wear political shirts because I don’t want some idiot at Walmart to try to fight or throw shit at me. Still doesn’t mean it’s right what’s happening to these people.℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
No good deed goes unpunished. I try not to put myself in situations that can go sideways. Its not worth risking my life or the security of my family. For what? To show i disagree?? No thanks.★DΞΛTH ROW★ wrote:
What about the people who were photographed at a legal protest (again, not the idiots who went inside) and the media is calling their employers and asking why they support violence until they get fired? Still the persons fault?If you don’t want .
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🧩🆙Persephone🦅8 wrote:
I agree with you. People have the right to protest, and i think it is healthy for people to protest the government when they think they are royaly fucking up. The system works on checks and balances. And it is our job to keep them in check as much as it is them us. I think polarization is one of the biggest fuck ups that happened to this nation. The Constitution was created with everyone having independent thoughts and opinions. And these days with 90% of people...Just to go on record here- protesting and devolution into a riot in the streets of the city is illegal and I don’t support it nor the destruction of property and assault upon others.
HOWEVER- there is a HUGE disparity between that action and an attempted takeover of the Capital of the United States.
It is equal to attempted take over of the White House or the Supreme Court by force.
If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.
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Subcribing to either being democrat or republican, it causes very single minded and one sided debates. People have to make up their own damn minds and start thinking for themselves. All politicians want is power. And it all started when they realized there is money to be made in the election process. A LOT of people vote based on the political party they align themselves with, instead of viewing each candidate and deciding for themselves if that person has what it takes to be in a seat of power.
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At the end of the day, elections are popularity contests, which means everyone is not going to be happy with the results. But. The majority should be. Everyone has different background and different opinions. And coming together to decide what is best for everyone is the best way to solve the majority of this nations problems. To put our current situation in a different light, its like.. pretend the world is a football game. Instead of rooting for our team to win, we got caught up in rooting for our players on the field and the players on the bench. And because we have spent so much time arguing about who our best quarterback is, the other team is scoring trillions of points (national debt joke), while we all stand on the field stuck in a huddle trying to figure out who the fuck is going to hike the ball.
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Step Off wrote:
Wow so you don’t care about minorities. Only the people in the majority matter?And coming together to decide what is best for everyone is the best way to solve the majority of this nations problems.
You should really be more accepting. It doesn’t matter what the majority wants if one minority is upset or offended.
Fuck the majority. How dare you. Take a second and care about the little person not just your majority.
Insensitive racist Jerk.
The preceding was Viking’s best impression of a liberal. Thanks for reading.
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I can see why some people would argue that point. And the sad truth is that in a lot of cases that is valid. Not all problems can be solved with working together. People are inherently selfish and they only look out for number 1. Thats human nature, to survive. To take care of their young and to see them succeed. We all have self preservation. All creatures do. But as intelligent advanced lifeforms, it’s our responsibility to rise above that. To not only look out for number 1, but to look out for US. Racism for example is a hard issue to deal with. You cant just go, oh dont be racist. Problem solved. I think deep down everbody has a bit of racism in them. And it doesnt have to be white hate these people or those people. People in the uk talk shit about americans all the time. China as a country is one of the most xenophobic cultures on the planet. Its not a simple cut and dry issue. It is global. And many of our most popular social issues are a global issue. However. The USA is incredibly progressive and...
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Willing to bring these issues to the surface where other nations wont even entertain the topics. BUT. How are we supposed to tackle and even make attempts to deal with these issues, if we cant even deal with simplistic issues like who got elected. Everything requires baby steps and we are so focused on learning how to run when we never even bothered to learn how to crawl.
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Anyone can live in fear and not stand and fight for what they believe is right. I for one would stand and fight even if I loose everything I will not let those who went before who gave it all die in vain. I encourage anyone to fight for what they believe is right. The worst than can happen is you loose everything but you retain your integrity.
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℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
★DΞΛTH ROW★ wrote:
I’m with ya 100%. I don’t put stickers on my car because I don’t want it keyed. I don’t wear political shirts because people.℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
No good deed goes unpunished. I try not to put myself in situations that can go sideways. Its not worth risking my life or the security of my family. For what? To show i disagree?? No thanks.★DΞΛTH ROW★ wrote:
What about the people who were photographed at a legal protest (again, not the idiots who went inside) and the media is calling their employers and asking why they support violence until they get fired? Still the persons fault?If you don’t want .
I don’t either. Defeats the purpose of the “Gray man”. I have the advantage them not knowing my beliefs.
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But as intelligent advanced lifeforms, we sit on the toilet thumbing out pointless observations on a platform designed to squeeze dopamine from our brains and cash from our wallets. We sit here expecting the others trapped in this tiny pointless world to take heed of our super-duper wisdom and be impressed on their own toilets between tappings of “crack bank safe” every few minutes. So advanced. So intelligent. So advanced... sweet! A cannoli. Cool.
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
Classic Brown NoteBut as intelligent advanced lifeforms, we sit on the toilet thumbing out pointless observations on a platform designed to squeeze dopamine from our brains and cash from our wallets. We sit here expecting the others trapped in this tiny pointless world to take heed of our super-duper wisdom and be impressed on their own toilets between tappings of “crack bank safe” every few minutes. So advanced. So intelligent. So advanced... sweet! A cannoli. Cool.
😐 🤣🤣🤣
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And for all those who have been criticizing the rights resistance to bow to scientists and extreme measures for COVID. Some blatantly calling them deragatory names. Insinuating their stupidity for not believing the science. The main test promoted to be the most accurate for COVID testing- the PCR molecular test is now being backed off on by WHO as an accurate test & whose inventor never intended it to be a diagnostic method for disease. COVID is real, the pain and suffering is real, the science is very flawed & that specific piece of science was used to justify many actions taken. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsls.com/news/local/2021/01/08/cdc-study-shows-covid-19-rapid-tests-not-as-accurate/%3foutputType=amp
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https://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4916#
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/12/coronavirus-sceptic-wins-court-case-about-mandatory-pcr-testing/
https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2020-11-27/covid-pcr-test-reliability-doubtful-portugal-judges/56962
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🧩🆙Persephone🦅8 wrote:
No one here is arguing if Cove it is real we are talking about government institution and power. You now have a culture and generation of people who have fear over a virus with a 99.8% survival rate never in history has his number but with the help of the media fear mongering 24 seven about deaths however not considering the deaths in car crashes shall we ban cars? If you want to live life you have to be willing to take risks and if you don’t want to get sick just stay home but leave the rest of us alonehttps://www.bmj.com/content/371/bmj.m4916#
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/12/coronavirus-sceptic-wins-court-case-about-mandatory-pcr-testing/
https://www.theportugalnews.com/news/2020-11-27/covid-pcr-test-reliability-doubtful-portugal-judges/56962
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That is what I was saying Aug- prevention methods are needed and safety plans enacted BUT in many instanced it had gotten to extreme measures and the science used to justify was flawed. Now researchers are actually starting to point out that a high number of false positive results caused undue harm as well as a high number of false negatives put people at significant risk. The widespread testing for testing sake- as a screening tool is now considered by some to be detrimental to slowing the spread.
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States are using testing data to set criteria on what is open and what is closed. They actively promote widespread testing for all- sick or not, exposed or not. The results are then skewed and no longer offering data of value to address a pandemic. Millions of tests being done simply for testing a sake versus a daily test of those with symptoms or who had close contact exposure over a 4-5 day period. They could have used less testing resources and obtained far more precision on identifying actual persons who actually did have COVID. In turn more business would not have been closed, less people would have exposed others due to a single false negative and even deaths could have been prevented.
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The heart of the issue is there is no set standard in the reproductive cycles used in pcr testing. Virus shedding occurs, which doesn’t result in infection. A person with zero close contact to a positive case and no symptoms can have 2 tests- one with 12 cycles & negative result and one with 48 cycles in which a positive result occurred. With each successive cycle, the accuracy and reliability is diminished
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Each cycle in pcr testing is done to “magnify” the molecular bodies. With each magnification, some fidelity is lost
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I was on an interview panel yesterday for a position that provides recommendations and reports. One of the questions was how they ensure their own bias is identified and evaluated so that they do not influence the objectivity of the reports and recommendations. I had good responses. One was very good. Later they commented on the lack of support for the vaccine and how some in the community were not following recommendations. At the end of the interview they asked me what I saw as the biggest challenge for our organization. My response was the organization’s ability in demonstrating respect and dignity for all persons we work with and work for. With the current COVID pandemic and political climate, we have coworkers, customers and partners on all sides of the issues. Being patient, listening and remaining respectful/mindful of eachothers point of view will be our biggest challenge. I could tell she was taken aback by response and had to rethink what she had commented on.
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
Listen here. I havnt gotten a cannoli in 2 weeks. 😭😭But as intelligent advanced lifeforms, we sit on the toilet thumbing out pointless observations on a platform designed to squeeze dopamine from our brains and cash from our wallets. We sit here expecting the others trapped in this tiny pointless world to take heed of our super-duper wisdom and be impressed on their own toilets between tappings of “crack bank safe” every few minutes. So advanced. So intelligent. So advanced... sweet! A cannoli. Cool.
😐 🤣🤣🤣
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Impeached for a second time. Trump never stops winning 🇺🇸🇺🇸
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℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
Absolutely agree.★DΞΛTH ROW★ wrote:
I’m with ya 100%. I don’t put stickers on my car because I don’t want it keyed. I don’t wear political shirts because I don’t want some idiot at Walmart to try to fight or throw shit at me. Still doesn’t mean it’s right what’s happening to these people.℣į₭ϊ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
No good deed goes unpunished. I try not to put myself in situations that can go sideways. Its not worth risking my life or the security of my family. For what? To show i disagree?? No thanks.★DΞΛTH ROW★ wrote:
What about the people who were photographed at a legal protest (again, not the idiots who went inside) and the media is calling their employers and asking why they support violence until they get fired? Still the persons fault?If you don’t want .
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✞€ℍ₳ℙ╚₳ł₦✞ wrote:
Here’s the problem. As a left winger someone can riot and loot and the media will call them brave heroes and Kamala will pay their bail. When you’re a right winger and you protest the media will find the biggest scum at the protest and report to everyone that everyone at the rally is just like them.Anyone can live in fear and not stand and fight for what they believe is right. I for one would stand and fight even if I loose everything I will not let those who went before who gave it all die in vain.
I had a friend who went to Charlottesville with his History Group to protest the removal of confederate statues. This kid would protest the removal of anything because he loves history. Had nothing to do with confederates. The media got a picture of him and reported him as a neonazi. He and his family had to move. He got death threats for months and had their home vandalized.
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Yeah i dont agree with that. While to some confederate statues and such might seem oppressive, i think it is important to keep them. I get why they want them removed, but history is important. If we fail to learn from the past we are doomed to repeat it in the future. Which is one of the biggest reasons we even have a second amendment. Is not so we can collect 50k guns and have a whole ass museum in our homes, its so we have a standing milita. Its a deterrent. Its the same reason we opted to bomb japan instead for invading them in WW2. It also comes back to the check and balances thing. If one person in our government gains too much power from corruption, or whatever the reason may be, its our right, and our duty to stand up against tyranny.
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The majority of right extremists as well as moderate conservatives, in my opinion, are Christian god first fearing, family (wo)men, who respect law and order, take extreme pride in being honorable.
I am confounded by support and admiration given to a person whose life history is riddled with constant disrespect for Christian laws/rules, dishonesty in business, disrespect to country, disrespect to any who oppose him, disdain for those who call him out on it. He is the antithesis of what they say they value the most-
but hey “he got some shit done and stood up for us, so he’s cool” - even if he was a loyal democratic donor for most of his life.....
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🧩🆙Persephone🦅8 wrote:
He was the direct result of 8 years of Obama. Obama was the ultimate PC president. Always said the right thing at the right time. The press predictably fawned over him even when he made made decisions.The majority of right extremists as well as moderate conservatives, in my opinion, are Christian god first fearing, family (wo)men, who respect law and order, take extreme pride in being honorable.
I am confounded by support and admiration given He is the antithesis of what they say they value the most-
but hey “he got some shit done and stood up for us, so he’s cool” - even if he was a loyal democratic donor for most of his life.....
I think most people were tired of that and went the extreme on the other side.
Trump was good but far from a conservative hero. People who actually pay attention to politics realize that.
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I would agree, the stakes were raised and he was a direct result of the forced agenda while the Obama administration had control of house and senate and they blatantly flipped the bird to the repub party - 24 hours to review then vote on ACA with no debate . Released in the middle of the night and 1000’s of pages- many sections notably absent of detail
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/01/17/germans-keep-refusing-quarantine-could-put-detention-centres/amp/
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“Germans who repeatedly refuse to enter quarantine after being exposed to coronavirus will be held in detention centres under new rules drawn up by regional Authorities”
Ah ohhhh.... “AUG stop trying scare us, our government will NEVER do something like thaaa.....(whistling in the graveyard)
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Umm, an order to isolate is violating the law and people in the US have been “rounded up” and sent away to live for awhile. It’s just called jail instead of the more fancy “detention center”.
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/coronavirus/people-arrested-for-violating-isolation-orders-in-florida-will-get-no-bond-pending-first-appearance
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