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RIP everyone who didn't make it. This pissed me off 😡
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Another school shooting. 10 people killed 9 students and a sub. Teacher. Junior armed with a shotgun and .38 revolver (as said on news) pulled the fire alarm at the beginning of first period and as all the kids entered the halls he opened fire. 😡 this isn't a gun problem this is a security and people problem.
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RIP 💔 We currently live in a society where children who have been bullied, are now glorifying school shootings as a means of revenge and way to justify the abuse they endured.
Truly scary to imagine what thismeans for the future generations. So sad.
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The Lone Wolf💀 wrote:
Another school shooting. 10 people killed 9 students and a sub. Teacher. Junior armed with a shotgun and .38 revolver (as said on news) pulled the fire alarm at the beginning of first period and as all the kids entered the halls he opened fire. 😡 this isn't a gun problem this is a security and people problem.
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What?
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Maybe the media should stop trying to increase ratings and revenue off of tragedies while at the same time promoting their certain political agenda and actually go to the root of the problem. We have people being so isolated and left out of our society they are doing bullshit like this; it is a social problem through and through, not political or economic.
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
The Lone Wolf💀 wrote:
Another school shooting. 10 people killed 9 students and a sub. Teacher. Junior armed with a shotgun and .38 revolver (as said on news) pulled the fire alarm at the beginning of first period and as all the kids entered the halls he opened fire. 😡 this isn't a gun problem this is a security and people problem.
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... this doesn’t happen regularly in other 1st world countries. It’s a gun culture problem.
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ฅຮอศརຮƴ♆яїн♆ wrote:
Objects don’t cause harm. Evil people do.... this doesn’t happen regularly in other 1st world countries. It’s a gun culture problem.
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
I agree. It's a people problem not an object problemฅຮอศརຮƴ♆яїн♆ wrote:
Objects don’t cause harm. Evil people do.... this doesn’t happen regularly in other 1st world countries. It’s a gun culture problem.
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The Lone Wolf💀 wrote:
no object no problem☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
I agree. It's a people problem not an object problemฅຮอศརຮƴ♆яїн♆ wrote:
Objects don’t cause harm. Evil people do.... this doesn’t happen regularly in other 1st world countries. It’s a gun culture problem.
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If it wasn't an object problem, why are shootings like this virtually and comparatively unheard of in countries with stronger gun regulations?
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If there were no “objects”, some kid would build a flame thrower, pull the fire alarm and kill 50 people. It would be on the news globally 24x7. Then every other messed up kid would have fantasies about pumping gasoline into the fire sprinkler system for their own glorious ending.
I notice that people aren’t really screaming about background checks, assault rifles, or armed school responders this time.
Maybe we should march to ban teen drivers, since they kill way more than teens with guns.
(What other random crap can I spew....)
Oh, yeah.. Real gun culture is about self preservation. Gun culture to that kid is PUBG and watching school shootings on TV and talking about them at school every day. So is the culture wrong? Yeah. But that’s not really gun culture.
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ฅຮอศརຮƴ♆яїн♆ wrote:
It's gangster rap.. gangster rap made me do it... this doesn’t happen regularly in other 1st world countries. It’s a gun culture problem.
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What happened to it being Beavis and Buttheads fault?
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
You make a really good point about lumping some nut job with the majority of law abiding citizens. It was on record that this school went through “active shooter preparation” before this leading event occurred. Hey brown wouldn’t it be possible that this training could also “trigger” these types of behaviors sort of like telling a 3 year old not to eat cookies that are sitting in his lap?I notice that people aren’t really screaming about background checks, assault rifles, or armed school responders this time.
Maybe we should march to ban teen drivers, since they kill way more than teens with guns.
(What other random crap can I spew....)
Oh, yeah.. Real gun culture is about self preservation. Gun culture to that kid is PUBG and watching school shootings on TV and talking about them at school every day. So is the culture wrong? Yeah. But that’s not really gun culture.
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Welsh Rainmaker wrote:
Yes and if you see their criminal record, it’s always the bad guys who have the guns and not the slaves who can’t defend themselves. Big government taking your freedom to defend yourself from them or the cholo lookin at your moneyIf it wasn't an object problem, why are shootings like this virtually and comparatively unheard of in countries with stronger gun regulations?
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Coolio wrote:
“To reduce harm”, remove All the objects, ban all the things.” Do it. Just do it.The Lone Wolf💀 wrote:
no object no problem☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
I agree. It's a people problem not an object problemฅຮอศརຮƴ♆яїн♆ wrote:
Objects don’t cause harm. Evil people do.... this doesn’t happen regularly in other 1st world countries. It’s a gun culture problem.
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This doesn’t happen in most 1st or even 2nd world nations. As of 2017, we were 31st in the world in gun deaths (excluding conflict zones obviously). The only developed or semi-developed countries I know of with higher homicide rates are: Brazil, Thailand, and the US Virgin Islands. (Hey, US!) So with that said, does anyone care about why we as a country have so much gun violence? Or would you all rather get defensive? Are we (1) infected with a culture of violence (2) a mentally ill nation (3) suffering from gun culture? There’re obviously something wrong, so what is it? Anyone care to take a look inwards instead of deflecting this shit every time it happens — until, God forbid, it happens to one of us?
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By the way, this is a nonpartisan issue. It becomes partisan by nature, but neither Repubs nor Dems have ever seemed much inclined to enact meaningful gun control. And red or blue doesn’t mean much to the kids (and adults) dying. And remember, I am a (multiple) gun owner — probably not whatever you typically label gun control advocates as.
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Why are “mass shootings” becoming so frequent in recent years? Hmmmm, what could it be? Let’s go back to when they barely ever happened in the US... The 1950s.
Did we have less of a gun culture then?
Did we have more gun regulations then? Better background checks?
Were guns more expensive then?
Did we have fewer traumatized ex-military people on the streets?
Did we have less poverty then?
Did we have semi automatic rifles back then?
What happened that caused a dramatic upturn in mass shootings in the early 90’s? And why such a drastic increase in the last 10 years? What changed?
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-24 hour connections to news.
-24 hour bully potential online and in social media.
-Under socialized children locked indoors. (Caused my media, IMO)
-Instant media access on demand for sex, violence, gore, and counter culture.
-A shift in family structure, working mothers, single mothers.
-A massive decline in dietary quality.
-The decline of religion.I grant that it’s easier to put us all in little rubber room safe spaces than to fix society. But blaming this trend on “gun culture” seems weak.
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Brown🎵Note wrote:
-24 hour connections to news.
-24 hour bully potential online and in social media.
-Under socialized children locked indoors. (Caused my media, IMO)
-Instant media access on demand for sex, violence, gore, and counter culture.
-A shift in family structure, working mothers, single mothers.
-A massive decline in dietary quality.
-The decline of religion.I grant that it’s easier to put us all in little rubber room safe spaces than to fix society. But blaming this trend on “gun culture” seems weak.
I was with you until you started with the wack-job talk about diet, religion, and especially working women. Media definitely plays a role but if you think religion has any correlation I'd ask you to observe gun related incidents in heavily atheists counties like those in Scandinavia
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Welsh Rainmaker wrote:
Brown🎵Note wrote:
-24 hour connections to news.
I was with you until you started with the wack-job talk about diet, religion, and especially working women. Media definitely plays a role but if you think religion has any correlation I'd ask you to observe gun related incidents in heavily atheists counties like those in Scandinavia
A majority of religious affiliation is asssociated with moral stand points of defining “murder” and giving moral grounds for such a crime.
And if you want to take a time to research dictatorships who were known for their faith in atheism, look at Mao and Stalin both in which have the highest murder rate by a government “who took the guns”.
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Religion serves a purpose. If not to control the people, what then?
You think diet plays no role in this, but living on low-fat sugar diets messes with minds. When did ADHD become a thing?
And working single mothers leaving their kids to be baby-sat by TV and the Internet, or worse set free in a day care jail to socialize with other kids without parents... Not good.
Yes. Let’s make America exactly like Scandinavia. Good idea. We’ll all be rich white people surrounded by guns, but never use them. Our kids will be programmed entirely by state-run media that includes educational programming and morning coffee shows about the weather. Problem solved.
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We are building anti-social little boys with mental issues in this country.
Guns are not causing that.
Yet I hear very little in the media about why this is happening to little boys. It’s almost all about the gun problem, as if boys were always this way and guns are what changed.
And to tell us that if we remove the guns, problem solved... That’s horrible. The problem is still there. They just have to be more creative with their murder suicides.
Rome is falling. I think it’s inevitable. There’s no fix, really. We didn’t evolve in an environment where we were so successful, so we will be a victim of our own success. Where is that god damned singularity already.
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All forms of media promote and continue the loop of violence culture here. This has been well studied.
Diet — This, too, has been studied, and there appears to be some correlation between the two, but this is an unknown.
Religion — I think the more secular countries’ records, as well as history such as the Spanish Inquisition, kind of debunks this.
Under-socialization — Our youth are definitely desensitized and under-socialized. I think this plays a large role in school shootings. It doesn’t, however, explain other mass gun violence such as street crime or mass shootings like Vegas.
Again, this isn’t a single-facet problem. It’s complex and multi-layered. But, guns do contribute to the issue by alowing ease of murder both psychologically and physically. And that is the issue with guns. No one with half a brain would suggest guns as inanimate objects kill, or for that matter, that guns don’t enable those with bad intentions to mass murder.
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You think diet plays no role in this, but living on low-fat sugar diets messes with minds. When did ADHD become a thing?
I’ve seen some research on this, it’s very interesting to see how these diets especially young children are on these days. It’s mainly glucose sugar and refined grains. It’s not just effecting them with diabetes and obesy but messing with their hormonal equilibrium and their IQ.
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Welsh Rainmaker wrote:
In our country the states with the most “regulations” have the most violent crimes, and vice versa...that’s literally a fact. Australia just had a mass shooting 🤔If it wasn't an object problem, why are shootings like this virtually and comparatively unheard of in countries with stronger gun regulations?
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The ONLY reason people hear about shootings and care so much is because of the media pumping this crap out 24/7 instead of the MANY other tragedies they could be talking about. Make no mistake, the media is making TONS of money off this so called debate.
‡℟ɸɱⱥɲ☧ɭɇɠɩɸɳ‡ wrote:
Maybe the media should stop trying to increase ratings and revenue off of tragedies while at the same time promoting their certain political agenda and actually go to the root of the problem. We have people being so isolated and left out of our society they are doing bullshit like this; it is a social problem through and through, not political or economic.
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⇚❹☠❶☠❺⇛ wrote:
I think it came right around the time we started pussifying our children. Lack of discipline and over sense of entitlement. Scared to spank your children for doing wrong and letting them “figure out” what they are as a child. NoThis doesn’t happen in most 1st or even 2nd world nations. As of 2017, we were 31st in the world in gun deaths (excluding conflict zones obviously). The only developed or semi-developed countries I know of with higher homicide rates are: Brazil, Thailand, and the US Virgin Islands. (Hey, US!) So with that said, does anyone care about why we as a country have so much gun violence? Or would you all rather get defensive? Are we (1) infected with a culture of violence (2) a mentally ill nation (3) suffering from gun culture? There’re obviously something wrong, so what is it? Anyone care to take a look inwards instead of deflecting this shit every time it happens — until, God forbid, it happens to one of us?
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