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saelo2myltlfren wrote:
xghnbb wrote:
saelo2myltlfren wrote:
Difference is that he wasnt regularly bedding next to or showering with the soldiers.randombloke wrote:
lmaoLook at Alexander the great. Best general in history and bent as a six pence.
agreed
why is it always the fervent hetero males that are just sooo sure every gay male is jonesin really hard for him?
it's because daddy hugged them too much when they were little.
Or maybe daddy didn't hug them enough.
I dunno. I'm always getting those two mixed up
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Kozy wrote:
Wrong. Read Article 1, sections 2.3, 7.1 and 8.1 regarding Congress' authority to levy taxes in general. You also need to read the 16th Amendment concerning Congress' authority to levy income tax. You should refrain from commenting about documents you obviously have not read and subjects about which you clearly know little.They also aren't allowed to make you pay tax since there was never a law passed stating that it is required. And it is against the constitution to pay taxes but they still make you do it.
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OneThumbBastard wrote:
Thank you very much. I could only find the 16th amendment part this am.Kozy wrote:
Wrong. Read Article 1, sections 2.3, 7.1 and 8.1 regarding Congress' authority to levy taxes in general. You also need to read the 16th Amendment concerning Congress' authority to levy income tax. You should refrain from commenting about documents you obviously have not read and subjects about which you clearly know little.They also aren't allowed to make you pay tax since there was never a law passed stating that it is required. And it is against the constitution to pay taxes but they still make you do it.
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xghnbb wrote:
Im not homophobic at all. But, i do know that most ppl that are not in the service, who cannot understand the situation, are the ones who think its no big deal.
Try wearing our shoes b4 making decisions for us.
Im not in Cali, so i shouldnt have a vote on legalizing marijuana. Just as non military members shouldnt have a say on this.
Ive stated my opiniom. No more to say.
ya think? lol
this is a constitutional issue. hence the supreme court decision and current aftermath.
should cities be able to discriminate against lesbian or gays that wish to be firefighters? they work 24 hour shifts in extremely close quarters.
oh. wait. I dont get to have a say because I'm not a firefighter.
the supreme court is out of line in tackling this issue because our justices are not in the military (or are not acting firefighters etc).
seriously?
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Kozy wrote:
before you speak you should ask someone who's actually been there instead of running your god damn mouth! 800k sure has there been friendly absolutly but a majority of those deaths are from coward insurgents hiding behind civilian population! I have patroled through villages where there have been mass killing not by soldiers but by insurgents. Act intelligent shut your mouth!Also since the wars in afganistan and Iraq have started there have been 800,000 people killed. So tell me what's worse, 80k or 800k? Plus it started for control of oil because sadaam decided to start raising prices of oil and it would collapse the American economy. Start reading things written by people outside of your country if you want a more accurate view of what's going on. Sadaam no longer wanted to be a puppet for the American government. I'm not saying what he did was right. But you have a biased uneducated point of view
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before you speak you should ask someone who's actually been there instead of running your god damn mouth! 800k sure has there been friendly absolutly but a majority of those deaths are from coward insurgents hiding behind civilian population! I have patroled through villages where there have been mass killing not by soldiers but by insurgents. Act intelligent shut your mouth! This. Ppl love to talk about shit they truly know very little about. Fkn ignorant morons.
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Personally, I don't agree with midgets in the army.... Oh, wait....this isn't the 'small people can kill too' thread is it?
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dscInfantry👊🔨💀 wrote:
Thank you. And to the fool who posted after dscinfantry, you are not any better than Uptown ryder with his "I'm Back" post.Kozy wrote:
before you speak you should ask someone who's actually been there instead of running your god damn mouth! 800k sure has there been friendly absolutly but a majority of those deaths are from coward insurgents hiding behind civilian population! I have patroled through villages where there have been mass killing not by soldiers but by insurgents. Act intelligent shut your mouth! -
All I'm saying about the 800k figure is that people are being killed more now then before because they don't want us English folk over there. And as for coward insurgents. It's funny how they are called insurgents and not military. Should we call ourselves the invaders? Either way they are not trying to invade north America and kill us. We invaded them and are killing them in their country.
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"Other constitutional amendment arguments have been raised by tax protesters. Some argue that imposition of the income tax violates the First Amendment freedom of speech and freedom of religion.[1] Protesters argue that the income tax violates the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, the Takings Clause, or the right that no person shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". Tax protesters have argued that income taxes impose involuntary servitude in violation of the Thirteenth Amendment.[2] Some tax protesters argue that Americans are citizens of the individual states as opposed to citizens of the United States, as the Fourteenth Amendment was not properly ratified. Another argument is a missing amendment to the Constitution, known as the Titles of Nobility Amendment, which precedes the current Thirteenth Amendment. Another argument raised is that because the federal income tax is progressive,
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the discriminations and inequalities created by the tax should render the tax unconstitutional. These arguments have been rejected by the courts."
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Instead of posting someone else's thoughts Kozy, I suggest you do the following: stop paying taxes altogether. None, zero, zip, zilch. Then, when the taxman comes around looking for you and your unpaid taxes, use the same wisdom that you posted here with the taxman. See how far that gets you. My guess is all the way to Federal prison.
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Just because something was implemented does not mean it was properly ratified.
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Kozy wrote:
You do not know a darn thing about this subject and, if your continued responses are a fair indication, you lack the capacity to learn when the truth is presented to you as fact. My counsel is that you quit now before your ignorance causes you to post something even worse than the nonsense you insist on posting here.Just because something was implemented does not mean it was properly ratified.
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Kozy wrote:
Are you even American? You obviously aren't a constitutional scholar. Please explain to me how can income taxes violate the 5th amendment right against self-incrimination? I should have stopped right there because that smells like a load of crap. Where did you even get this? Did you ever consider the fact that even after all of these arguments have been brought forth, the reason they keep getting shot down (or not even given consideration) is because the people using these arguments are not the sharpest tools in the shed? Just concentrate on Canada, eh?"Other constitutional amendment arguments... imposition of the income tax violates the First Amendment freedom of speech and freedom of religion.[1] Protesters argue that the income tax violates the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination, the Takings Clause, or the right that no person shall be "deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law".
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OneThumbBastard wrote:
LOL. My guess is that Kozy is Canadian. That is judging by his turfs. Could be wrong but I don't think so.Instead of posting someone else's thoughts Kozy, I suggest you do the following: stop paying taxes altogether. None, zero, zip, zilch. Then, when the taxman comes around looking for you and your unpaid taxes, use the same wisdom that you posted here with the taxman. See how far that gets you. My guess is all the way to Federal prison.
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Kozy wrote:
A democracy is one man one vote. A republic has a senate. We are a republicWhat was the conspiracy I stated?
Also, I do believe we live in a democracy. Which would mean for the people to make informed decisions then we do need to know what's going on.
Oh and for people who say don't be a conspiracy theorist. Ex (not exactly a conspiracy but you get the point) the world was once flat, then a dude said hey everybody it's actually round. Just because there's only one person saying something doesn't mean it's not true. It's the ignorant who are unwilling to look at all possibilities with an open mind. I know that I know nothing. -
Why do people not want to have gays serve? I see no problem with them. I don't care about their sexual orientation.
I personally do not like homosexuality, but that's not to say I don't like gays. Most of them are moderate people, and very nice people at that. My belief is that they have a chemical imbalance, but that does not influence me when socializing. They are people. Any person, gay or straight, willing to die for their country, is a better man than I think I could be. So shut up and get out on the battlefield before telling them they shouldn't be able to serve. I'm pretty sure that the soldiers appreciate anyone who is willing. -
OneThumbBastard wrote:
Actually people that have previously worked for the IRS have looked into it personally and have quit and stopped paying taxes and have argued and won. You are right though I don't know a thing about the American constitution nor do I really care, I made a hasty post that I thought would be taken lightly and now people are freaking about it. I'll refrain from talking about your country and it's constitution. Personally I think all of north America and the way it's ran is completely messed up. Sorry for offending people. And I actually mean thatInstead of posting someone else's thoughts Kozy, I suggest you do the following: stop paying taxes altogether. None, zero, zip, zilch. Then, when the taxman comes around looking for you and your unpaid taxes, use the same wisdom that you posted here with the taxman. See how far that gets you. My guess is all the way to Federal prison.
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I can't remember the names of the IRS people nor do I care enough to go back and find them. Again sorry for speaking through emotion with uneducated facts
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Ok 1 last copy paste. I just find it interesting. But you guys are right I really have no idea. So here it is.
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Check out this site:
members.cox.net...
Here is a small excerpt from this site...
"Federal Income Tax - Mandatory or Voluntary?
If federal income tax laws were mandatory, they would violate all of the Constitution's three taxing clauses, as well as the 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 13th and 16th Amendments. to the Constitution. So as not to be unconstitutional on these and other grounds, the payment of this "tax" was not made mandatory, which is why the IRS continually refers to the "voluntary compliance" nature of this tax.So why do people go to jail for violating income tax laws that don't exist? Mostly because they try to avoid paying taxes by hiding their income or moving it into a secret offshore account, and end up breaking other laws. Certainly you cannot just stop paying taxes, once you've signed the IRS 1040 Form contract, but you can legally file several things in lieu of pay taxes, and legally claim your legal voluntary status to opt out of the tax program.
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The Constitution, in numerous clauses, bars the government from collecting income taxes in the manner it now does. Let me count the ways."
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Here is alittle more important info from site....
the 16th Amendment did not amend the Constitution nor did it give the government any new taxing powers (such as the ability to impose a direct tax on income without apportionment). See Brushaber, supra and Stanton v. Baltic Mining Co, 240 U.S. 103.
Section 61 of the IRS Code does not define "Gross Income," since a word cannot be defined with itself. Therefore, what constitutes "income" is not defined in the IRS Code (see U.S. v. Ballard, 535 F2d 400,404).
In addition, Congress has no power to define the meaning of "income," since by doing so, it would be amending the Constitution by legislation alone (see Eisner v. Macomber 252 U.S. 189, 206). The Supreme Court defined income to mean a "gain or increase arising from corporate activities. (see Doyle v. Mitchell, 247 U.S. 179, and Merchant's Loan and Trust Co. v. Smietanka, 255 U.S. 509, 518,519).
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Therefore, no American can have any income subject to an income tax, since the word income, for tax purposes, means a corporate profit. If anything, we have a Profits Tax, not an income tax. In addition, if the income tax were mandatory, it would have to be declared "void for vagueness" by any legitimate court, since no one can understand our income tax laws.
All IRS seizures in payment of income tax are illegal, and not provided by law.
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This web site is here to tell you that this is exactly what happened! We are here to tell you and the rest of the nation that YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO FOR GENERATIONS!
www.voluntarytax.info...
There are many deceptions that have worked themselves into our modern age that are vistages of a bygone era. These include the following:
The word 'Income' has been redefined. At the time that our tax law was passed, it meant 'profit,' the proceeds of a corporation after deducting expenses. Now that definition has come to include 'wages,' the proceeds of a single individual selling his labor. We know this to be true by reviewing the congressional record of conversations on the floor preceding the vote.
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The 16th Amendment was never truly ratified. It was forced fed to an unsuspecting public in an era when morse code was the main means of communications. This is the Amendment our modern day legal system says justifies the income tax. Even accepting the 16th as legal, many court cases have declared that this amendment bestows no new taxing power, which renders the current Income Tax unconstitutional!
Our current lawmakers are vaguely aware that the 16th Amendment is unconstitutional. When pressed, they admit in closed circles that the Income Tax is voluntary, thus it is legal!
Thus our lawmakers have the best of both worlds. They themselves are not obligated to pay income taxes while the rest of the nation is herded into compliance! -
You are a complete idiot
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Kozy wrote:
I don't know what site you went to but I am pretty sure you did not get that crap from members.cox.net unless you left a lot off of the URL. I thought it looked familiar. It is the local cable company's website. EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!Check out this site:
members.cox.net...
Here is a small excerpt from this site...
"Federal Income Tax - Mandatory or Voluntary?
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Look I already said that I personally don't know anything. I just copy pasted what I read elsewhere. So emp go fuck yourself. You are 15 and don't know shit other then what other people tell you. Bugsy, I have no idea what the full address is. Again, copy paste. I said what I read I thought was interesting but haven't looked into it. I just thought I would paste what I read so you guys could see what it was. If it's false info then it's false info. Not my thoughts.
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