GAY SCOUT LEADERS?
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Every Scout campout I went on I always brought up the topic of gay scout leaders. I would have no problem having one. I dont think I ever met another Scouter that shared my opinion. Scouts are very anti gay. Whats your opinion?
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I think it's fine. Gay doesn't equal pedophile.
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I agree Bella. We had a lesbian babysitter once. She loved our kids, they loved her, but we took a lot of flak from family and friends.
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I see no reason for the organization to be anti-gay (though I have no personal experience that they are). A person's sexual persuasion doesn't necessarily mean that they are a bad leader or that they won't care for your children. Heck, I have a friend--male--who is a better "mother" (he calls himself that jokingly) than I am or ever will be. If you were to look at my parenting skills compared to Papa Toney you'd take Toney hands down regardless of the fact he's gay. Add to that the fact that he's kept a relationship together waaaaaaaaaay longer than I have ever done successfully as well. He's active in his son's various activities (I believe scouts!) and the kid is a dynamo. I'd take lessons if he gave them.
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I disagree. I believe that very few parents would be okay with a grown straight man taking out a group of juvenile girls on a camping trip alone. So why the he'll would they be okay with a man attracted to males taking out a group of boys alone? Same concept.
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Rusty1983 wrote:
Sexual orientation does nit make somebody a pedophile. Look at all the hetero priests abusing young boys. I say we ban all male priests from coming into contact of any male under the age of 18I disagree. I believe that very few parents would be okay with a grown straight man taking out a group of juvenile girls on a camping trip alone. So why the he'll would they be okay with a man attracted to males taking out a group of boys alone? Same concept.
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zraygo wrote:
well we all love lesbians!! Jk I could only answer for myself.. Only way I see it wrong "most" gay guys go to far! if their gay everyone around them has to be. Besides everything about the camp may be icky ewwwe! Jk don't hate me for it!I agree Bella. We had a lesbian babysitter once. She loved our kids, they loved her, but we took a lot of flak from family and friends.
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I am not a homophobe. Or a hater of gays. My wife has a flamboyantly gay brother who I socialize with just fine. I even have a couple gay friends but if I had a son, would I be comfortable leaving them alone with him. No! Here is the results of a study done by people with much more insight than me.
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98 to 99 percent of the population is admittedly homosexual in orientation. Dr Stephen Rubin of whitman college conducted a ten state study of sex abuse study involving school teachers. of 199 cases studied 122 male teachers molested girls. 14 female teachers molested boys. He also discovered 59 homosexual male teachers molested boys and four female homosexual teachers molested girls. In other words 32 percent of the molestation cases involved homosexuals. Nearly a third of these cases came from only 1 to 2 percent of the population?!!! Feedback??
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Sorry 98 to 99 percent of population is hetero. Sorry lol
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Scout groups are generally conservative from what I understand. It's an old school type of thing. The general population Born in later generations are against homosexuals. Their less liberal. I'm not saying everyone! But there is a clear majority. This the reason I would think. I have no problem with a gay scout leader. Then again, I'd never go into the scouts...
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Holy crap! 91% of all the molestations were by men which account for less than 50% of the entire population!
Keep all children away from men!
In fact, 100% of the molestations were done by HUMANS which are less than 1% of life on earth.
Conclusion: all babies should be raised by wolves.
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Lmfao itchy. Props on that post
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itchy area wrote:
LOL well saidHoly crap! 91% of all the molestations were by men which account for less than 50% of the entire population!
Keep all children away from men!
In fact, 100% of the molestations were done by HUMANS which are less than 1% of life on earth.
Conclusion: all babies should be raised by wolves.
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And the class hamster molestation was left out of the study. Therefore the study, and your remedy is flawed. Not sure if fluffy was male or female
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itchy area wrote:
Too funny. Good jobHoly crap! 91% of all the molestations were by men which account for less than 50% of the entire population!
Keep all children away from men!
In fact, 100% of the molestations were done by HUMANS which are less than 1% of life on earth.
Conclusion: all babies should be raised by wolves.
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I think it comes from people still thinking that homosexuality is a transmittable disease, so if their sons get too close to a gay male, they might become gay through osmosis! I understand being wary of guys who want to take kids camping, but parents should be concerned about that regardless of the leaders' sexual preferences.
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zraygo wrote:
Rusty1983 wrote:
Sexual orientation does nit make somebody a pedophile. Look at all the hetero priests abusing young boys. I say we ban all male priests from coming into contact of any male under the age of 18I disagree. I believe that very few parents would be okay with a grown straight man taking out a group of juvenile girls on a camping trip alone. So why the he'll would they be okay with a man attracted to males taking out a group of boys alone? Same concept.
I'm ok with that ban no way I wouldet my child male or female be alone with a priest.
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actually the statistic of homosexuals is more like 1 in 10. kind of on an even par with blacks in America. just to put it in perspective.
then again, I'm a sexual deviant and I would protect the cooters of your daughters from the threat of my tribation.
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O-Dogg wrote:
Do you know any gay people??? Like, really know them or just see them out on the street and on TV? Holy shit, o-dogg.zraygo wrote:
well we all love lesbians!! Jk I could only answer for myself.. Only way I see it wrong "most" gay guys go to far! if their gay everyone around them has to be. Besides everything about the camp may be icky ewwwe! Jk don't hate me for it!I agree Bella. We had a lesbian babysitter once. She loved our kids, they loved her, but we took a lot of flak from family and friends.
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Two words ---> Private Organization
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itchy area wrote:
Winner!!Holy crap! 91% of all the molestations were by men which account for less than 50% of the entire population!
Keep all children away from men!
In fact, 100% of the molestations were done by HUMANS which are less than 1% of life on earth.
Conclusion: all babies should be raised by wolves.
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Rusty1983 wrote:
"Admittedly" - meaning what people would admit to - people often provide socially acceptable answers in studies. The study was not experimental, therefore you can only show correlation, not causation, besides which your sample size was too small to form any reliable correlations anyway.98 to 99 percent of the population is admittedly homosexual in orientation. Dr Stephen Rubin of whitman college conducted a ten state study of sex abuse study involving school teachers. of 199 cases studied 122 male teachers molested girls. 14 female teachers molested boys. He also discovered 59 homosexual male teachers molested boys and four female homosexual teachers molested girls. In other words 32 percent of the molestation cases involved homosexuals. Nearly a third of these cases came from only 1 to 2 percent of the population?!!! Feedback??
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Where did the percentage even come from - you or the study? Did the study say if it was even statistically significant?
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I am a homophobe, but I don't see any problem with them being scout leaders. They aren't going to be raping the little kids, unless they are gay pedophiles. People that seem to be straight turn out to be pedophiles.
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Scouts are a private organization! If want to be a gay scout leader and they won't let you, then start your own gay scouts of America group. Next thing you know it will be bad to have an exclusive country club where women aren't allowed.
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Ο u 8 | 2 wrote:
Two words ---> Private Organization
Yeah. But a private organization that gets federal funding? Yet is allowed to discriminate against gays and atheists?
Fine then. Let the Boy Scouts discriminate. But pull federal funding. I don't want an organization that discriminates using my tax dollars.
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healthyaddict wrote:
BSA DOES NOT GET TAX DOLLARS, FFS people.Ο u 8 | 2 wrote:
Two words ---> Private Organization
Yeah. But a private organization that gets federal funding? Yet is allowed to discriminate against gays and atheists?
Fine then. Let the Boy Scouts discriminate. But pull federal funding. I don't want an organization that discriminates using my tax dollars.
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Ο u 8 | 2 wrote:
BSA DOES NOT GET TAX DOLLARS, FFS people.
Not true. They receive ~2mil/year from the federal government. Just google it dude. There are plenty of reputible sources that show this. Or if too lazy to research wiki it ('boy scouts controversies' has a pretty good article with links, or even just the regular BSA page).
If they weren't being funded by the government, sure they'd still be assholes, but as a private organization they'd have grounds to stand on.
When funding halts, so will (most people's) complaints.
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I am going to take this from a Christian standpoint, because it is the only way I can describe my reasoning behind gays.
I take it from "love the sinner, hate the sin." most homosexuals are good people. I don't discriminate agains them.
When I see a gay man molest a cub scout, I still won't hate gays. I will take it on a case. By case basis.
Oh, btw zraygo, I am a catholic. With any large organization, you get nutjobs and odd cases. The majority of priests are men with a strong desire to help people with their faith. I have found that priests are some of the best counselors in the world.
Who else but a dedicated person would spend 10 years learning how to better serve a faith group? FYI, there is going to be a crackdown on these pedo priests. Wait about two months -
Σмקεгφг ќ wrote:
When I see a gay man molest a cub scout, I still won't hate gays.
Uhhhh...how molestations did you watch?????
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