I felt the need to say something after the temp code thread
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Why is it new players don't tend to stay playing the game and the old ones seem to leave in droves?
Mobile games are fleeting, as someone mentioned with the Pokémon go situation. That can be coupled with the fact this game is not new player friendly at all.
A. Punching sucks. It's monotonous. Punching 1000 codes and getting 200 or so mob is shitty, but that's the nature of this game. When you do punch, what's the endgame? Nobody will ever be Dunn or Chucky or Atla again. There is not enough active players to amass a mob of 70-80k and the players that have obtained that have spend years getting there. Now, I said before and I'll say again. With the right allies, a 5-10K player can be just as powerful as a 100K players, but that certainly feels disadvantageous don't you think? The 5-10k player does this at the risk of self destruction because...
B. Big players own the game. Not much to say here. Some new players are lucky enough to start in a city with an inactive or relatively small capo and take
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Over but what if that isn't you? I started in Lubbock, when I started the game Heelow was capo, and I had a decent fighting chance at it if I wanted. When I returned to the game, Mickey was capo and I could probably put up a decent fight. About a year and a half ago, I moved to Austin. What am I going to do here? There is no way I could have a chance again a player like Nerd who could just keep planting turf and hold capo without capping once. I wouldn't risk even taxing him because I would likely be capped. A new player in a big city doesn't have a chance, and without a chance at a capo or a fight what's the real reason to play? Now, they could always hop and take capos or some such but often airports are controlled by huge families and even as an experienced player I find it hard to establish myself at one. What chance does a 200 or 300 mafia guy have? If your solution is just punch then see point one. It's a temporary fix.
3. Protection. I love this community, it's why I'm still here, but just like in r
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eal life people are offended too damn easily. A 30k player hitting a 2-3k player is one thing, but stop the presses if a 1k player hits a 300 player. The 300 whines to a big dog, the 1k gets capped out, and worse come to worse the 1k calls his friends and a full blows war starts. Maybe that's what we need. Maybe the whole everybody getting along thing is boring and Mason/Gasface had the right idea. Turf hits are personal but why? (I'll tell you why in my next point). Why is a core premise of the game considered personal and can cause a player to be totally deleted from the game for going too far? I fear maybe being so bold here will subject me to turf hits, but im not sure I even care at this point. It's only personal because......
C. This game is never any different even 7 years later. There's minor updates like radius, stat allocation, etc, but nothing big ever changes. Even Pokémon go had some semi significant updates and it still lost players. We get so excited for 4x loot and Brent and non increasing
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turf limit but it's all so predictable. The reason turf hits are personal is because it's cool to have turf in a place you were visiting or hopped to, and it's shitty when some guy just rolls you out and you can't go back. Part of the complaint has to be airports. I know a bit back they rolled out more airports, but there's still pretty significant ones left out. Austin Bergstrom here isn't an airport in this game. People ask for new airports all the time so why isn't it just done? Give players access to the damn game. "But hats, that makes the game too easy?" Have you not realized how easy the game already is? Call on your friends or repeatedly punch codes in a little box. That's this game. If anything more access makes the game harder as it gives everyone access to many areas and nobody is safe. Dunn/ Maverick shouldn't be unbeatable. Mystery shouldn't own every capo everywhere. That's not an offense to them, the interactions I've had with them have been fantastic, but it's a fact. The bad thing is about op
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ening the game is that those players like Dunn, Atla, Chucky, and other monsters can just dominate easier. Nobody can hit 80k mob or wants to pay for thousands of turf limit as a smaller player like Kalicush or Grim Reaper. That said, many do pay for stats, limit, and other things so there should be plenty of money to update the game more than once in a blue moon and not put everyone in a constant catch 22.
Thanks for listening. I'll step off my soapbox. I love this game, and this community, and I know you all do too. I want this to be fun for everyone and this game to be the best it can. Happy turfing!
-Hats
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I agree! Good post. The community and having turf in fun places is what keeps people here, but the number of inactive codes is severely depressing. And the offense thing is intense. People def need to chill out more, and I think it would help if family bosses helped new players stay in line and learn the game.
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ᎷᎪᎠᎻᎪᎢᎢᎬᎡ wrote:
Those specific two players are mules who capped turf that was passed down, not so much that they plant it all themselves. Just saying.Nobody can hit 80k mob or wants to pay for thousands of turf limit as a smaller player like Kalicush or Grim Reaper.
Also, radius (either cap or turf) was a minor change?
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nexx. wrote:
Checked the top for captures. Didn't see him when the lowest was 33. I guess it's a small change for someone who doesn't know where the cap button is. I think direct him to the "let's make the game fair for everyone" thread?ᎷᎪᎠᎻᎪᎢᎢᎬᎡ wrote:
Those specific two players are mules who capped turf that was passed down, not so much that they plant it all themselves. Just saying.Nobody can hit 80k mob or wants to pay for thousands of turf limit as a smaller player like Kalicush or Grim Reaper.
Also, radius (either cap or turf) was a minor change?
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⌖Շ☠ངんꀨ😲🔫😏⌖ wrote:
The exact numbers are 13C/24L.nexx. wrote:
Checked the top for captures. Didn't see him when the lowest was 33. I guess it's a small change for someone who doesn't know where the cap button is. I think direct him to the "let's make the game fair for everyone" thread?ᎷᎪᎠᎻᎪᎢᎢᎬᎡ wrote:
Those specific two players are mules who capped turf that was passed down, not so much that they plant it all themselves. Just saying.Nobody can hit 80k mob or wants to pay for thousands of turf limit as a smaller player like Kalicush or Grim Reaper.
Also, radius (either cap or turf) was a minor change?
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Old Players leaving in droves: May have something to do with Nick changing the rules of the game to help out his friends. I still check in the forums from time to time to see how you guys are doing as I spent 5 years playing with you. However, I won't play a game where a certain sect of players are invincible because they're friends with the game developer.
Like it or not it's not game play or game concept that killed this game. It was Nick. Just like he killed the forum years ago by banning all the fun people. Used to be a decent thread wouldn't last a day on the GD. Nick and co. go on a banning spree and now even boring threads last a week.
I'll go back to spying now. I wish you all well and hope someday you can find a new app that appreciates you.
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@ hufky: I find it amazing that you guys are still beating the drums about the "rule changes". The rule change that you all continue to whine about is the one where the price of placing turf was reduced. Regardless of whether you believe it or not, that rule benefits both sides. Yet because you either got tired of playing, or couldn't see a path to victory, you guys continue to drag this silly story out constantly after you all quit. It's just sour grapes that get more sour every time. It's getting boring.
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💉СУГЦЅDAVIГЦЅ💉 wrote:
@ hufky: I find it amazing that you guys are still beating the drums about the "rule changes". The rule change that you all continue to whine about is the one where the price of placing turf was reduced. Regardless of whether you believe it or not, that rule benefits both sides. Yet because you either got tired of playing, or couldn't see a path to victory, you guys continue to drag this silly story out constantly after you all quit. It's just sour grapes that get more sour every time. It's getting boring.
+1 👍🏼
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Fiberian Hufky wrote:
+1Old Players leaving in droves: May have something to do with Nick changing the rules of the game to help out his friends. I still check in the forums from time to time to see how you guys are doing as I spent 5 years playing with you. However, I won't play a game where a certain sect of players are invincible because they're friends with the game developer.
Like it or not it's not game play or game concept that killed this game. It was Nick. Just like he killed the forum years ago by banning all the fun people. Used to be a decent thread wouldn't last a day on the GD. Nick and co. go on a banning spree and now even boring threads last a week.
I'll go back to spying now. I wish you all well and hope someday you can find a new app that appreciates you.
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💉СУГЦЅDAVIГЦЅ💉 wrote:
Sure, the update was available to everyone. But sadly we were not stupid enough to play into nicks last money grab. I'm actually ashamed I bought into cap skill. The game has been pay to win for a long time, idk if it's because I am just to lazy to keep spending money or I actually woke up lol. Games dead. Now all that's left to do is annoy y'all plebs from now and then✌🏻️@ hufky: I find it amazing that you guys are still beating the drums about the "rule changes". The rule change that you all continue to whine about is the one where the price of placing turf was reduced. Regardless of whether you believe it or not, that rule benefits both sides. Yet because you either got tired of playing, or couldn't see a path to victory, you guys continue to drag this silly story out constantly after you all quit. It's just sour grapes that get more sour every time. It's getting boring.
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Fiberian Hufky wrote:
👍Old Players leaving in droves: May have something to do with Nick changing the rules of the game to help out his friends. I still check in the forums from time to time to see how you guys are doing as I spent 5 years playing with you. However, I won't play a game where a certain sect of players are invincible because they're friends with the game developer.
Like it or not it's not game play or game concept that killed this game. It was Nick. Just like he killed the forum years ago by banning all the fun people. Used to be a decent thread wouldn't last a day on the GD. Nick and co. go on a banning spree and now even boring threads last a week.
I'll go back to spying now. I wish you all well and hope someday you can find a new app that appreciates you.
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⌖🔥Groucho🔥⌖ wrote:
💉СУГЦЅDAVIГЦЅ💉 wrote:
@ hufky: I find it amazing that you guys are still beating the drums about the "rule changes". The rule change that you all continue to whine about is the one where the price of placing turf was reduced. Regardless of whether you believe it or not, that rule benefits both sides. Yet because you either got tired of playing, or couldn't see a path to victory, you guys continue to drag this silly story out constantly after you all quit. It's just sour grapes that get more sour every time. It's getting boring.
+1 👍🏼
+ 2. 👍🏼
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I was gonna read the pages and pages you wrote and then I was like....fuck no I'm not gonna read that shit.
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L U C A wrote:
Meh, I enjoyed the read.I was gonna read the pages and pages you wrote and then I was like....fuck no I'm not gonna read that shit.
Some good points were made. But really the same points people have been making for years.
Game is definitely past it's glory days.
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Fiberian Hufky wrote:
Old Players leaving in droves: May have something to do with Nick changing the rules of the game to help out his friends... However, I won't play a game where a certain sect of players are invincible because they're friends with the game developer.
I call bullshit!
Why?
Because Nick doesn't have friends.
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nexx. wrote:
You've been playing for how long? And you're still a frigging noob.ᎷᎪᎠᎻᎪᎢᎢᎬᎡ wrote:
Those specific two players are mules who capped turf that was passed down, not so much that they plant it all themselves. Just saying.Nobody can hit 80k mob or wants to pay for thousands of turf limit as a smaller player like Kalicush or Grim Reaper.
Also, radius (either cap or turf) was a minor change?
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L U C A wrote:
Yeah cause for some people, reading is hard. Just sound it out Luca you can do it!I was gonna read the pages and pages you wrote and then I was like....fuck no I'm not gonna read that shit.
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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀ☠༻ wrote:
You have been playing how long? And capped how many turf? LOLnexx. wrote:
You've been playing for how long? And you're still a frigging noob.ᎷᎪᎠᎻᎪᎢᎢᎬᎡ wrote:
Those specific two players are mules who capped turf that was passed down, not so much that they plant it all themselves. Just saying.Nobody can hit 80k mob or wants to pay for thousands of turf limit as a smaller player like Kalicush or Grim Reaper.
Also, radius (either cap or turf) was a minor change?
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☝🏻️ I think the answer is 12. Closest without going over wins.
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★DUSTIИ★ wrote:
Why because I didn't pad my fights stats like the rest of you? Or cap noobs and shit? All my fights are from wars. (or lack thereof. I don't really care about meaningless numbers in what is now a meaningless game.)༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀ☠༻ wrote:
You have been playing how long? And capped how many turf? LOLnexx. wrote:
You've been playing for how long? And you're still a frigging noob.ᎷᎪᎠᎻᎪᎢᎢᎬᎡ wrote:
Those specific two players are mules who capped turf that was passed down, not so much that they plant it all themselves. Just saying.Nobody can hit 80k mob or wants to pay for thousands of turf limit as a smaller player like Kalicush or Grim Reaper.
Also, radius (either cap or turf) was a minor change?
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@grim, Pft the only player you have capped is Rocco Lampone. Oh, wait.
And, 2,200 caps, I capped more then that the first day of the of BAIC/Star/Minc war. Lol.
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Wow you've capped spam. You're so tough. So kewl. So badass. Help us all. 😂
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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀ☠༻ wrote:
What did you cap?Wow you've capped spam. You're so tough. So kewl. So badass. Help us all. 😂
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12 war turf.
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L U C A wrote:
Down.12 war turf.
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11 war turf and 1 spam.
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