The "catch-22" of this game
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In short, it's an extremely boring game if you're not fighting someone...and the game mechanics and more importantly the players don't want people to fight.
You cannot engage someone who is larger in this game and win. Sure, you can v up, but that does very little in the long run unless you manage to completely crush them before the v is over.
You can't fight anyone that you can win against either, because everyone and their brother steps in and tells you "don't do that".
CMS, calling you out here. You talk a big hell of a lot about wanting to create an environment where people don't quit...coddling newbies, helping them out, and not letting "big guys" pick on them. But y'all are making people leave the game as well...its so stifling being anywhere near you guys. Can't do anything, you get bored, and leave.
So yeah...good luck all. Off to find something at least interesting to do.
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Cool?😓
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Why u calling out Cms? Just because myself and another member are in a v against you? So your saying I cannot cap someone or join a v if I have the tags?
Also look at who u cap? Pol with 600 mob I seen! -
There is a very fine line between great environment with good action and boring enviro with no action. Most people start with that vision of having a great environment but it decays into just, nobody hurts anyone.
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1 day ago: Wintermute wrote:
“Thanks for getting involved in this. Ya'll are gonna kick my ass, but at least it's not boring =)”Hmmmm seems like you can't make up ur mind!
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Not at all groundhog. No issues with you guys in the v...in fact the v itself and the fighting in it has been fun. It's your buddies in their pm's.
My issue is that this game touts itself as a wargame. It's not. The mechanics don't lend themselves to it, and many of the players reinforce it.
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I've never had a problem with any CMS member. IMO they're all a great group of guys.
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Wintermute wrote:
Ok. Thanks for clarifying my issue dude!Not at all groundhog. No issues with you guys in the v...in fact the v itself and the fighting in it has been fun. It's your buddies in their pm's.
My issue is that this game touts itself as a wargame. It's not. The mechanics don't lend themselves to it, and many of the players reinforce it.
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No, that PM makes my point exactly groundhog, and I'm glad you posted it. The actual mechanics of fighting are fairly fun. It's just that you don't get to play that way without people crawling out of the woodworks to make you stop. I've been looking forward to this fight for weeks because there was no one else around me that wouldn't either be too easy or completely crush me. Finally start to get to actually playing the game...and get jumped all over by everyone. It's ridiculous, and it's frustrating. And despite the name of the game, it's not a war game because of it.
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That is part of the game. I start out the same way. Make friends and conquer others. Hop other places. Everyone has had the same issue as you one time or another. Loner s will be killed in this game. If u had someone hitting from the side on a sneak attack u would be killing now
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If that don't make sense sorry. Little buzzed now! Ahahahah eventuate whoot whoot!
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I would have to say, wintermute is a real stand-up guy who is here to have some fun. I was shocked when I saw he was targeted by u guys. I've bumped into wintermule on numerous occasions and he was always easy to deal with.
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On another note..where did longswamp go?!
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🔫🌊🗻SpeedoctorM3 wrote:
I've never had a problem with any CMS member. IMO they're all a great group of guys.
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!! 从ㄠ七丹 !! wrote:
Not targeted by us targeted by someone we are helping. I respect wintermule, he knows that. Not once did he complain to me he actually encouraged it as something fun to brighten up what was becoming a boring game for him. I am kind of confused about your post here thoughI would have to say, wintermute is a real stand-up guy who is here to have some fun. I was shocked when I saw he was targeted by u guys. I've bumped into wintermule on numerous occasions and he was always easy to deal with.
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Oh and when I say "we" are helping that's me and groundhog, not the cms.
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My post was simply stating that I was shocked to see wintermute being targeted in general.
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This is something kind of fun to do in this game:make a vendetta with just u and target every one on the fourums and then attack them and lose.kind of stupid but kind of fun
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Reardless. Cheers and best of luck W mule.
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!! 从ㄠ七丹 !! wrote:
LS quit. :(On another note..where did longswamp go?!
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Longswamp was a cool ass dude. Only player with more capo titles than me lmao
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Wintermute wrote:
The actual mechanics of fighting are fairly fun. It's just that you don't get to play that way without people crawling out of the woodworks to make you stop. ...And despite the name of the game, it's not a war game because of it.
This is exactly why I have very little interest in this game any more. Running missions and acquiring cash is pointless if every time I stretch my legs a large group of seemingly random folks chop them off.
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!whimmel wrote:
Wintermute wrote:
The actual mechanics of fighting are fairly fun. It's just that you don't get to play that way without people crawling out of the woodworks to make you stop. ...And despite the name of the game, it's not a war game because of it.
This is exactly why I have very little interest in this game any more. Running missions and acquiring cash is pointless if every time I stretch my legs a large group of seemingly random folks chop them off.
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Cool story bro. Welcome to 8 months ago.
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JMac wrote:
Ha ha....Cool story bro. Welcome to 8 months ago.
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I kind of agree with wintermute tbh
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He's full of shit and referring to me. He took a capo status from me on two seperate occassions on outskirts of Philly and sent me a pm apologizing. I said I couldn't care less about capo status (I feel its good for him it's part of game to see capo status spread out) but and I said and i quote please take it easy on the noobs as I get a bunch of pms complaining about him in Philly. that's it....I never capped him for it... Hell I never even told him to stop.... I merely asked him to please go easy.... He immediately sent me a pm saying I was " an asshole ruining the game". I naturally have set up on him and will be capping him into oblivion. Tell the whole story or don't tell it at all. I was merely mentioning smaller players occasionally need looking out for. Furthermore in a previous pm I told you when dealing with a noob or smaller player give them a small chance to mob up...
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If they don't then again I quote...go cap the hell out of them.... You see the other catch 22 of the game is whiney bullies that like to cap but piss out their ass when tables are turned.
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I see what u mean^^ I wud be pretty annoyed if one or more of the big players kept attacking me (a noob) and my turf.....
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Something I have noticed about this game whether people are willing to admit it or not is it's kinda political in it's own right, the aim to this game is not really being the strongest fighter or even mob numbers in reality! (although mob numbers help) it's who u know and make friendships with, it's very much a 'u scratch my back,I'll scratch yours' kinda game, people walk into this game expecting people to hate eachother, for wars to be breaking out every 30 seconds etc etc and it's not like that like I said theirs politics Their have been peace treaties set up, their are unwritten and written rules, their are no mans lands and guarded and controlled areas, their are members who have meetings with other members, u can become the strongest person in the game with biggest mob and highest influence etc, but that means nothing if u have rubbed people up the wrong way, made no strong friends etc etc anyone agree?
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Agreed Pyro. I'm glad I got to know you Brighton Folk, got your backs if you ever need me :)
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