MMR vaccine keep your kids clear of it
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let's be real, no heavy metal preservatives administered the way the current vaccine schedule is, can possibly be good for new, under developed babies and their brains... it actually says some of these warnings on their inserts... do you think thats a mistake?again, I'm not anti-science or anti-vax, but pro common sense and my common sense tells me that 26 vaccinations in the first year a baby is born can cause more harm than good... the schedule needs spread out and the ingredients need to be independently studied..I just know that when inserts actually mention the harm inflicted and when there is an actual court in the US that pays out real money for real vaccine injuries, then we all need to step back and quit fighting and make reforms where people aren't afraid to give their children vaccines... courts don't pay out money for damages related to vaccines because it doesn't happen... and literally millions have been paid by the specific court here in the US
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BK👊 wrote:
Common sense? Critical thinking? Big pharm? What the fuck? This is science. Common sense is as useful in science as religion is. Critical thinking without a background in medicine again, useful as a knife at a gun fight. Im not even gonna talk about "big pharm", im not sure about the price of tin foil these days so ill try and save ya a few bucks. Also, am I interpreting this wrong or are you actually trying to blame your son's aspergers on a vaccine?✂️
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It's not even a question
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Yes I said common sense, critical thinking & big pharm. I honestly have no desire to attack u or ur opinion, but I think u find it hard to view it from any other perspective. I can want to know, without having a PhD, about the ingredients of the vaccines. I can be curious as to why aborted fetal cells are needed to vaccinate my child. How about monkey kidney cells? Honestly, those make me squirm just thinking about injecting that into my kids. I can wonder why formaldehyde, thimerosal, & aluminum is in so many vaccines and wonder what it's purpose is. It's called using common sense. Common sense tells me, as a parent, that I need to know what is being injected into my child. And everything I mentioned is in vaccines. It's on the CDC website. I'd be happy to get you a link. Cont...
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It's also probably smart to understand the studies that are regularly cited as evidence that there is no link. Are the studies flawed and data cherry picked the way Dr. Thompson from the CDC (over 24 yrs w/ CDC) claimed? What portion of data is used to reinforce any claim one way or another? Who financed the study?Most are financed by the company that is trying to market the vaccine, not the government.
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Is there an agenda behind the financing? What were the conditions of the study? How many people/animals were tested? If human trials, what was the age, race, etc.? Doses and weights are factors. Were the results independently verified or just trusted because of Big Pharm? Because all of that matters.
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And yes I mentioned Big Pharm, do you think their business model is to keep you healthy? Seriously, how many side effects are on these drugs that they have commercials for? Shit, they have to buy 60 second spots because 30 seconds of it is side effects. Come on man, that's where common sense should be used again. And that information shouldnt be witheld from anyone just because they don't have a PhD. Again, I am not anti-science. I understand polio is almost completely eradicated in the US, but I also know that the contents of each vaccine vary and ingredients can be altered depending on availability and of course, price. And it also doesn't take a PhD to think that these 3-in-1 vaccines can't be healthy to inject into a child. Think about that. You are injecting 3 live viruses of serious enough diseases that you want to protect your child from, but ur giving them 3! At once, to newborns, and their immune systems and neurological systems are supposed to withstand that.
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Again, I have no desire to argue with or insult anyone but if you truly believe everything that's told to you from either newspapers, the television and the internet, then you are a fool. Especially if it comes from any company that has billions and even trillions of dollars at stake. I don't need a tinfoil hat to be skeptical, but I got mine fitted a few months back just to be safe!😂
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Valid points made. Again, any SELF and honest research will produce thought invoking ideas and theories about vaccines. And for anyone who doesn't understand the term "big pharm" well, this conversation is out of your leauge so call names or whatever but you cannot be taken seriously.
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There actually ARE answers to your concerns out there, but your own ignorance and fear won't let you see them. You go online and find like-minded morons to enforce your fears and doubts. And then you come out and public and spew your ignorance and superstition and drag others along with you.
This campaign of ignorance is itself a virus.
We need to find a vaccine for the kind of thinking that would look at millions of lives saved, completely disregard them, and then say the cure isn't safe because "common sense".
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Don ♠️ DriZZy wrote:
You say you only avoid the flu shot and know nothing about other vaccines, and then you back a nut that has no evidence whatsoever, but "knows" the MMR vaccine gave their kid Asbergers.Valid points made. Again, any SELF and honest research will produce thought invoking ideas and theories about vaccines. And for anyone who doesn't understand the term "big pharm" well, this conversation is out of your leauge so call names or whatever but you cannot be taken seriously.
Your entire "don't lump me in with those guys" argument is out the window. You are advocating for what you admit is an argument from ignorance, and therefore you ARE one of them.
Just come out of the closet. You will be happier, and we will know who we are dealing with.
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Nearly 100% of qualified professional doctors support the vaccine.
Unfortunately, we have an outbreak of physicians that recently graduated from the University of Google who appear to have outsmarted western medicine.
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Debate the FACT that there is a national vaccine injury program with court that is run by the US government....
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/
End of discussion, sorry you can't see it, but it's real and pays out millions of dollars. insults prove nothing except that you can't have a normal debate. Not one thing I mentioned was specifically rebutted. No point in arguing and insulting. Not worth it, good luck in life. -
BK👊 wrote:
If someone said, "here, take a puff of this special cigarette and you won't get polio.", would you do it? What if it was proven to work? Would you tell people not to do it because cigarette smoke contains polonium-210? Would you decry the entire operation because 10,000 people were harmed by it even after 20,000,000 were saved?Debate the FACT that there is a national vaccine injury program with court that is run by the US government....
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/
...sorry you can't see it, but it's real and pays out millions of dollars. insults prove nothing except that you can't have a normal debate. Not one thing I mentioned was specifically rebutted. No point...Of course not.
"Common sense" tells you that one puff of a cigarette probably won't kill you, but it seems to fail you when you point out the ingredients of the MMR vaccine. Then you add ground up baby skulls to the list for good measure.
Get bent.
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MRC-5 (human diploid cells) found in one of the most common shots. The Dtap or tetanus shot. Human diploid cells are culture line composed of fibroblasts derived from lung tissue of an aborted white (caucasian) female fetus. It's on the CDC website. Here's a link...
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm
Scroll to the blue highlighted link that says, "Vaccine ingredients sorted by vaccine"
They also use aborted fetal cells in Hep A & Hep B, MMR & rabies vaccines.
I can go get bent and thats fine, but the proof is on the CDC website itself, not some conspiracy theory site. No one still didn't answer why there is a real, live national vaccine injury compensation program ran by our government.
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Im backing the idea that we need to be more mindful of what they are telling us. We need to do our own research because we are not being told the truth. You've known me a long while, I dont make claims on assumptions.
Anything that is profit driven, needs to be explored with ones own critical thinkinn and research.
Its like going to a car salesman and he tells you you need this new car for this and that reason. Then you see their ad on TV and say it must be true. Thats fkn stupid. Plain and simple
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Don ♠️ DriZZy wrote:
Getting vaccinated and buying a car are hardly the same thing, and yes you can do your own research but if you find out the ingridients are not what you thought saying ew does not help anyone.Im backing the idea that we need to be more mindful of what they are telling us. We need to do our own research because we are not being told the truth. You've known me a long while, I dont make claims on assumptions.
Anything that is profit driven, needs to be explored with ones own critical thinkinn and research.
Its like going to a car salesman and he tells you you need this new car for this and that reason. Then you see their ad on TV and say it must be true. Thats fkn stupid. Plain and simple
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BK👊 wrote:
Gotta do something with the fetuses they abort dont they? Or do you also have something against abortion?✂️
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BK👊 wrote:
And I have cadaver bone installed in my skull for a tooth implant. What's your point?MRC-5 (human diploid cells) found in one of the most common shots. The Dtap or tetanus shot. Human diploid cells are culture line composed of fibroblasts derived from lung tissue of an aborted white (caucasian) female fetus. It's on the CDC website. Here's a link...
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/additives.htm
Scroll to the blue highlighted link that says, "Vaccine ingredients sorted by vaccine"
They also use aborted fetal cells in Hep A & Hep B, MMR & rabies vaccines.
I can go get bent and thats fine, but the proof is on the CDC website itself, not some conspiracy theory site. No one still didn't answer why there is a real, live national vaccine injury compensation program ran by our government.
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Don ♠️ DriZZy wrote:
An individual will never be able to do enough testing and research to override the billions going into government funded research that is not for profit. Leave aside "big pharma" research.Im backing the idea that we need to be more mindful of what they are telling us. We need to do our own research because we are not being told the truth. You've known me a long while, I dont make claims on assumptions.
Anything that is profit driven, needs to be explored with ones own critical thinkinn and research.
Its like going to a car salesman and he tells you you need this new car for this and that reason. Then you see their ad on TV and say it must be true. Thats fkn stupid. Plain and simple
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BK👊 wrote:
Do you actully not know? You are openly admitting to arguing from a stance of willing ignorance lol. The information is all readily available from multiple sources, spend some time and do some learning.No one still didn't answer why there is a real, live national vaccine injury compensation program ran by our government.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaccine_court
It's pretty much the same reason doctors have insurance/can be charged in court.
I'm sure you could also look up why they use the ingrediants they do in vaccines quite easily lol
Googles a great tool if used correctly, not a huge help when you search "proof vaccines cause autism" which you experts seem to be doing lol -
An individual will never be able to do enough testing and research to override the billions going into government funded research that is not for profit. Leave aside "big pharma" research.
Here is the problem to your logic. Any actual independant research done that does not support the Govt's agenda, will be discredited by the same Dr's and Media that is also getting funded by the billions and billions the Pharmaceutical companies make.Kind of like right now. I am saying don't believe the salesman's words, look into it yourself as much as possible, and I am being called a kook.
I am one of those people though that like to make my opinions of educated research.
My research has so far les me to believe the flu vax is not what its cracked up to be.
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In your eyes brown, only the Dr's and mass media know the truth and the Govt has nothing to do with hiding research results or misleading the public. That my friend, is the sign of a brain washed individual, and you are exactly what the Govt wants. People to not have a brain of their own anymore.
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BK you are spot on with everything you say the amount of vaccines being given out is ridiculous especially to babies so young. The amount of people who say they seen an immediate change in there babies after the 3 in 1 jab is huge.
To give a healthy person the flu jab is ridiculous most people get the flu maybe twice in there lives it's healthy to build your immune system up naturally (you won't die of the flu).
As I've said before the oral polio vaccine went massively wrong and so have others so why is it such a tin foil hat conspiracy that to say others are dangerous.
KA-BOOM honest pal your a sandwich short of a picnic. -
1) Does the Govt hide or mislead the people? YES
2) Is vax a for profit system?A HUGE for profit system. YES
3) do Dr's buy and resell the Vax? YES
4) Does mass media alway report unbiased news? Thats a laugher.Its clear to me, I should take precaution on anything getting put into my body. The Govt doesn't give a shit about me or you. Just pay up.
Done with this convo. Y'all do what you want but this guy is a free thinker and forms his own opinions of facts and research.
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Don ♠️ DriZZy wrote:
If you have evidence that NIH or CDC are withholding or falsifying research data, improperly manipulating results, or are puppets of commercial medical companies, by all means feel free to share. The lawsuits will be spectacular.In your eyes brown, only the Dr's and mass media know the truth and the Govt has nothing to do with hiding research results or misleading the public. That my friend, is the sign of a brain washed individual, and you are exactly what the Govt wants. People to not have a brain of their own anymore.
If you are just speculating, then you are making baseless accusations and you should feel remorse for throwing hard-working independent researchers under the bus over your paranoia.
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Mr,Shush wrote:
Flu and flu-related complications kill between 250,000 and 500,000 people per year. Avoid assuming that because most people survive it, everyone does.....The amount of people who say they seen an immediate change in there babies after the 3 in 1 jab is huge.
... (you won't die of the flu).
As I've said before the oral polio vaccine went massively wrong and so have others so why is it such a tin foil hat conspiracy that to say others are dangerous....The amount of people who noticed an immediate change in their babies after they began to walk and talk is huge. Walking and talking causes autism. I have conclusive proof of the link between them.
If a vaccine is proven dangerous, it is pulled. If it's proven safe, tinfoil hat wearers are outraged when it isn't pulled. The rest of us laugh at them. That's the difference.
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I'd like to give a big shout-out to Wakefield. Thanks, guy, for causing everyone and their mums to start a research study to confirm the safety of MMR. Your fraudulent study paved the way for dozens of other independent studies that prove without a doubt that your report is full of shit and our children are safe. 10 of 12 of your report's co-authors publicly retracted their agreement with your conclusions. Thankfully only 8 of 12 of your test subjects' parents agreed with your findings, and that was only because your lawyer funded research would benefit them financially if they went along with it and sued.
Of course, because of your bullshit study, your alternate "big pharma" product designed to replace MMR never saw market, and you lost your credentials, but you can't win 'em all.
Thanks again, buddy. Your career-sacrifice just to verify the safety of MMR II was awesome.
I'm sure that in the miserable annals of the Earth, you will be duly enshrined.
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Mr,Shush wrote:
Im glad my grammar amuses you. Yes, the 3 in 1 vaccine sometimes has side effects. Sometimes they cough, have a fever, etc. HOWEVER, what wont happen is your child getting disorder caused by abnormalities in one's chromosomes (autism, down syndrome, etc) or any other long term affects. The mere thought that this will happen usually comes from parents of children with a disorder such as down syndrome looking for an answer. Because, many people just cant accept that they drew the short straw or whatever you wanna call it, they would like to assign blame to something in order to comfort them. As for healthy people getting flu shots, its quite simple. Some get it because having the flu sucks. Others may get it becuse they are regularily in contact with people who cannot get the shot and would be killed by the flu. Those are two reasons to get. Im not going to talk about profit becuase the laws are different in canada and the US.✂️
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ƈɦɼٱร ɦคกรﻉก wrote: That my friend, is the sign of a brain washed individual, and you are exactly what the Govt wants. People to not have a brain of their own anymore.
If you have evidence that NIH or CDC are withholding or falsifying research data, improperly manipulating results, or are puppets of commercial medical companies, by all means feel free to share. The lawsuits will be spectacular.If you are just speculating, then you are making baseless accusations and you should feel remorse for throwing hard-working independent researchers under the bus over your paranoia.
How far back do you want to go.? How many examples.
Doctors at on time were saying menthol cigarettes were good for you.
Come on Brown stop playing devils advocate all the time.
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