MMR vaccine keep your kids clear of it
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It's old news now most parents are on to it if you have young kids don't do the MMR or at least research it first
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Or any vaccines for that matter, research to prove the harmful effects are never done, studies are conducted by the pharmasutical manufacturer
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leech wrote:
Or any vaccines for that matter, research to prove the harmful effects are never done, studies are conducted by the pharmasutical manufacturer
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Omg really? The only people you're hurting are your kids if you don't get them vaccinated. Do the research - what you'll find is that the vast majority of scientific evidence supports vaccinating kids as scheduled. Actually, you are not only hurting your kids, but you are putting all of their classmates and friends at risk as well. You are going to believe what you want but I have many relatives and friends in the medical field, and their support for vaccinations are unanimous. That's my two cents. Not surprised to see this post from shush, who likes to start problems.
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💉СУГЦЅDAVIГЦЅ💉 wrote:
Big pharma are the researchers. You dont see that as biased? If not then there's no debate to be had hereOmg really? The only people you're hurting are your kids if you don't get them vaccinated. Do the research - what you'll find is that the vast majority of scientific evidence supports vaccinating kids as scheduled. Actually, you are not only hurting your kids, but you are putting all of their classmates and friends at risk as well. You are going to believe what you want but I have many relatives and friends in the medical field, and their support for vaccinations are unanimous. That's my two cents. Not surprised to see this post from shush, who likes to start problems.
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Do you wear a tinfoil hat too?
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〓DERELICT〓 wrote:
Do you wear a tinfoil hat too?
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Vaccinate your children you fucking fools.
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Yes, pretty sure vaccines have proven to do more good than bad. 💉💊
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Tweek wrote:
Vaccinate your children you fucking fools.
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Yes ... Your science denying decision doesn't just threaten your own child, it endangers mine as well.
http://www.thebeaverton.com/health/item/1740-child-dying-from-measles-just-glad-he-isn-t-autistic
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I think some vaccines are important. Others do more harm or not effective. Big pharm will continue to push them anyways. Like the flu vaccine. Only people who have a healthy immune system it works with. People who actually could benefit from the help, people with bad immune systems, it does not work bcuz the immune system can't build up anyways to fight off the virus.
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It's April 1
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DoN♠️DriZZy wrote:
If it stops you and your healthy immune system from getting it, then you might not pass it on to someone's frail grandmother who could die because you wanted to play pseudo-scientist.I think some vaccines are important. Others do more harm or not effective. Big pharm will continue to push them anyways. Like the flu vaccine. Only people who have a healthy immune system it works with. People who actually could benefit from the help, people with bad immune systems, it does not work bcuz the immune system can't build up anyways to fight off the virus.
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Only healthy immune systems can develop to fight the virus. So giving someone who can already fight off the virus is a waste but big pharm pushes it to get money.
If your immune system is bad already, it doesn't develop to fight the vaccine, and most def not an actual flu strain.
Only times I have ever been had the flu, diagnosed, where I was sick as a dog and went to the Dr's was coincidentally after a flu shot. I have stopped taking the flu shots for almost 8 years now, and guess what. I have NEVER gotten the flu. And I have an Auto immune disease they are currently still trying to diagnose. So if ANYONE would get the flu every season, it would be me.
Does that make sense? The vaccine is to help build immune to the flu. But people with healthy immune systems dont need help, its the people with bad immune systems. But the bad immune systems are bad and cannot develop with or without a vaccine.
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DoN♠️DriZZy wrote:
Let's read up on that. Let's not just speculate on one-off anecdotal "evidence"....big pharm pushes it to get money.
If your immune system is bad already, it doesn't develop to fight the vaccine, and most def not an actual flu strain.
Only times I have ever been had the flu, diagnosed, where I was sick as a dog and went to the Dr's was coincidentally after a flu shot. I have stopped taking the flu shots for almost 8 years now, and guess what. I have NEVER gotten the flu. And I have an Auto immune disease they are currently still trying to diagnose. So if ANYONE would get the flu every season, it would be me.
Does that make sense? The vaccine is to help build immune to the flu. But people with healthy immune systems dont need help, its the people with bad immune systems. But the bad immune systems are bad and cannot develop with or without a vaccine.
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One retracted and discredited study vs. all of these:
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/immunizations/Pages/Vaccine-Studies-Examine-the-Evidence.aspx
Why would you believe the one discredited scientist over thousands of other scientists contradicting him?
Your science is based in emotional problems, that's why.
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ƈɦɼٱร ɦคกรﻉก wrote:
I have actually read a lot on it. The science shows it. If the immune system is bad, its bad becuase it doesn't produce whats necessary to fight the virus, so the vaccine is unnecessary. Healthy immune systems can fight off a virus,so its unnecessary again.One retracted and discredited study vs. all of these:
https://www.healthychildren.org/English/safety-prevention/immunizations/Pages/Vaccine-Studies-Examine-the-Evidence.aspx
Why would you believe the one discredited scientist over thousands of other scientists contradicting him?
Your science is based in emotional problems, that's why.
Big Pharm pushes against marijuana because peoplewont need the drugs and vaccines anymore.
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DoN♠️DriZZy wrote: I have actually read a lot on it. The science shows it. If the immune system is bad, its bad becuase it doesn't produce whats necessary to fight the virus, so the vaccine is unnecessary. Healthy immune systems can fight off a virus,so its unnecessary again.
Well, you better tell that to all the doctors and scientists that are backing their own studies, because they don't seem to have your in-depth understanding of the issue. Why don't you release your study?Big Pharm pushes against marijuana because peoplewont need the drugs and vaccines anymore.
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Well btw, Dr's have to purchase the viles of vaccines and they resale for profit. Thats a fact. So Dr's will obviously push for it.
Science explains how immune systems work its clear and day.
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Another fact is the last time I actually got the flu, was 8 years ago after I got the flu shot.
No flu sense. So I wont be taking it ever again
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Im not posting links bcuz its friday night and I have better things to do. If you stop following main stream media and do legit research, you would see there is more to the flu vaccine that you're being told. I have done hours upon hours of research. Deep, down, research. Not just the let me google and grab the first link that supports my idea research.
Idk where you are from, but the US is ran by 4-6 main corporations. Big Pharmacy is one of them. Drugs, vaccines, hospitals etc..... Its all PROFIT based. Finance is another, and insurance etc..... Dr's make a cut of the push for drugs and u healthy people. Thats why marijuana is illegal, because if more people started smoking, a lot of these ailments would disappear and big pharma would take a HUGE pay cut.
Done with this discussion life awaits me. I've said my peace. We can't all have like mentalities. I do however believe in a lot of vaccines. Just not the flu shots.
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DoN♠️DriZZy wrote:
Not to burst your conspiracy bubble, but doctors make much more treating the illness than giving vaccines. I work in health insurance, and we encourage it because it's cheaper.Well btw, Dr's have to purchase the viles of vaccines and they resale for profit. Thats a fact. So Dr's will obviously push for it.
Science explains how immune systems work its clear and day.
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Conspiracy? Im 34 years old. Highly educated. Honor and Distinguished Honor graduate at multiple Military academies. Im not a tin foil hat wearing drifter junkie. It is IMPOSSIBLE to say that if someone doesn't get the flu shot they will get the flu. Because there are too many variables involved.
I know plenty of people who get the flu and had the flu shot. I also know way more people who dont get the flu shot and never get the flu. It might be a coincidence, but you cannot say that people who got the flu shot were safe. Because how do we know they would have even got the flu had they not had the shot? You can't say so because you are not psychic. Dr's buy the vaccines, up the price and make a profit. OF COURSE they would push that agenda.
I am a free thinker. I dont need media or Dr's who get a profit from something tell me I need it.
Unbiased research, and a good understanding of the immune system, shows that the flu vaccine is not all its cracked up to be.
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Your logic saying that the vaccines are cheaper than the cost of the health care related to flu symptoms and visits is flawed, because 1) of course Dr's wont admit it when, nor can we find out if someone got the shot and still caught the flu. Due to the health regulations, and Dr's want that profit. 2) you are insinuating that if someone doesnt get a shot they automatically get the flu. I havent had the shot in at least 8 years and I have not had the flu in as many years. I sure did get the flu once a year or every 2 before that though and I was forced to get the shot back then.
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Im not speaking on the MMR or other vaccines. I have honestly not done the research. The flu shot, I have. Plenty and plenty. Maybe there is something to it, but I promise 100% its a for profit system, and based on that and knowing how the immune system works ever since I was diagnosed with RA,Lupus or some other auto immune disease, I know well enough that we aren't told 100% the truth on the flu shot.
Nor are we told the truth on ufo's or spying, or politics, etc. Govt is a corrupt fkn thing. But I always do my research thouroughly before making judgement. I dont need cnn or fox news to tell me i better get a flu shot bcuz theres a nasty flu virus going around. (MASS MEDIA is controlled by the Govt btw).
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The scientific truth about flu shots and the human immune response is that flu shots only work for people who don't need them.
People who are immunocompromised -- who might actually benefit from viral exposure rehearsal -- have no ability to build antibodies in response to the vaccine. Thus, the flu shot is wasted on them.
On the other hand, people who show a strong immune response to a flu shot are the very same people with healthy, active immune systems that can easily handle influenza exposure without a vaccine!
Flu shots, in other words, only "work" on people who don't need them. But they FAIL on those they claim to protect
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DoN♠️DriZZy wrote:
The scientific truth about flu shots and the human immune response is that flu shots only work for people who don't need them.
People who are immunocompromised -- who might actually benefit from viral exposure rehearsal -- have no ability to build antibodies in response to the vaccine. Thus, the flu shot is wasted on them.
On the other hand, people who show a strong immune response to a flu shot are the very same people with healthy, active immune systems that can easily handle influenza exposure without a vaccine!
Flu shots, in other words, only "work" on people who don't need them. But they FAIL on those they claim to protect
... conspiracy theories and those who promote them is an interesting read:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/insights-into-the-personalities-conspiracy-theorists/
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1) vaccines are for profit industry
2) ingredients in flu shot are not favorable.
3) I have not had the flu in 8 years since I stopped getting the shot.These are facts, not conspiracy. I feel like I am the only one here who has any serious logic and research on it.
But, go ahead and follow big pharma and media like the good little sheep you are.
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ฅຮอศརຮƴ♆яїн♆ wrote:
☝️☝☝☝Tweek wrote:
Vaccinate your children you fucking fools.
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Yes ... Your science denying decision doesn't just threaten your own child, it endangers mine as well.
http://www.thebeaverton.com/health/item/1740-child-dying-from-measles-just-glad-he-isn-t-autistic
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By not getting your child vaccinated, you are preventing herd immunity of these diseases and therefore endagering other children and not just yours.
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Survival of the fittest... Allow (not force) the weak and inept to kill themselves. Protect those who can't help themselves, but I'm all for allowing the healthy ones with an IQ above 99 to shorten their own lifespan or contribution to the gene pool if they want.
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