Android coming- Some Suggestions for Nick and the Community
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So of course we all benefit from an influx of players... We benefit more when they stick around....
NICK: ASAP remove a player's ability to add skill points to attack and defense. It is demoralizing to find out that you wasted precious "use them or lose them" points, and intuitively because of the UI, they appear to be of equal value to stam and energy
NICK: ASAP remove upkeep costs for turf defensive upgrades. Again, because of the UI, they intuitively appear to be as valuable as income upgrades, yet reduce turf income dramatically when noobs need it most. Noobs also know they are small and think they are most in need of defense, only to get the turf capped by someone with a few hundred more mob.
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COMMUNITY: Stop attacking / berating noob inactive cappers. Intuitively, to a noob, it seems like a LESS offensive way to grow one's income - Because they don't APPEAR to be harming anyone that actually plays the game anymore. Noobs don't understand the "economy." And in theory, the new players coming in by opening up the game to Android should more than make up for the loss of whatever inactives some small mob can cap. (Obviously willful and informed inactive cappers like Pasta and Silent A. are not making an innocent mistake.)
COMMUNITY: Lighten up on the extreme offended reactions to shit talking. It's a Mafia-themed war game. If you are seriously outraged by your-mom insults or swear words, or the "R" word, delete the game. Also cancel your internet service, cable, satellite radio, and don't watch anything but PBS. Personally, I'll still hit and see no reason to tolerate obvious bigots / racists.
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COMMUNITY: Re-think considering loot upgrades "fair game" on players under 5k mob or so, or with less than 250 turf. If they are taxing you, talk to them first, add your own loot, or let them. They probably need it more than you. Weapon upkeep / cost levels certainly never envisioned the mob sizes we can have now, yet max base income on turf is still 53k
COMMUNITY: Don't smash a noob over a capo. The game is promoted heavily around "becoming capo of your local town" or "taking out the local capo" and noobs often actually benefit from the free police protection.
COMMUNITY: Try to refer everyone to Dunn's new user guide. Most of the other how-to threads are hopelessly convoluted and outdated. Remember, though, that a player telling another player defensive upgrades are worthless or attack and defense are wastes will be met with skepticism as the game gives them equal billing. (See suggestions for Nick)
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Well said chuck!👍
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Some very good suggestions. 👍
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Nice thread Chucky👍🍻
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Nicely done. I try to send people to dunns wall. Maybe we could have a large noob room on pal we can send all that we meet. Only issue is a lot of developed players talk to much and a lot of new players never go on pal again.
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Great ideas! And well thought out. Absolutely right about all the new noobs replacing the benefits of inactive turfs. Im looking forward to the new dynamics. Let's all simmer down and give some of these noobs a chance.
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Agreed Chucky! 👍
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Very nice!!
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Everyone else wrote:
I guess if everyone else agrees I can to lmaoWell said chuck!👍
Nice write up man
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Good suggestions.
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Great ideas. I hope nick takes a look. 👍
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You are acting like that retard kid over there.
Generally speaking, it *is* light hearted to joyfully attack people in a mafia war game for any reason whatsoever. They must learn to lighten up as well. For the purpose of an important public service announcement, like:
"Berating mentally handicapped people is not cool if you think about it, because it's the SAME THING as racism and bigotry."
...I think a fake beating is an appropriate method to get this message across.
What are you, Black???
We don't bury our heads in the sand by shutting off our TV, (as you say), to bigotry and racism.
Thanks.
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Great thread Chucky.
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Great read chucky👍
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Great suggestions and also go read the help and suggestion forum. Even a read of The Dunn's wall is instructive. Good luck Andronoobs!
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Well said and well thought through.
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Everyone else wrote:
Well said chuck!👍
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Well said CP. Maybe Slick Nick could get his development team to bang out some code to make attack and defense points have some meaning. Also can you get rid of the loot weapons that have no real use (cough cough - potato smasher etc.) or maybe create something new?
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ʟuca wrote:
Yeah Nick, potato smashers are great in the kitchen, but my kitchen is full of them. Think we could get carrot peelers and colanders in a future update? Also, I have lots of knives. Cutting boards and knife sharpeners would be great kitchen accessories as well (although they would be equally useless for arming a mob). Thx in advance. 👍Well said CP. Maybe Slick Nick could get his development team to bang out some code to make attack and defense points have some meaning. Also can you get rid of the loot weapons that have no real use (cough cough - potato smasher etc.) or maybe create something new?
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Awesome thread Chucky... Very well thought out and clearly presented... Nice job
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Hopelessly pointless thread as usual. *note sarcasm here*
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〓IM IN DA ZONE〓 wrote:
Awesome thread Chucky... Very well thought out and clearly presented... Nice job
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I have to agree with Brown on this one. Granted he & I are from a different TW generation. Coddling new players won't help them in the long run. I do think there is a happy medium between harsh & coddling. While I aim for the medium, I often fall on the harsher side these days. I guess after 4 years I have less patience than I used to. 😁 I'm not sure why I would treat noobs playing on an android any differently than those on an iDevice, although I can try to be a little more patient with all of them.
Most of the How-To threads are just fine. Typically anything that's outdated is addressed a little later in the thread. Mickey Dunn's thread is of course good advice. You can also steer them to the wiki.
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Can someone with a DAS translator help me make sense of the relevance of the Brown Note post in this topic and then help me understand what Mystery is agreeing with Brown Note on exactly. The point is android players could be a much needed infusion of life into the game so lets all try not to F dat chit up.
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suggestion to iOS users:
Post your name on your wall, typed using English keyboard.Side note - some of the emoji are translated different.
If you want to know what your name looks like to an "Andronoob" (luv 2 MΛV) send me a message and I will post a SS to you in PAL.
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I was gonna max out my attack and defense just for the hell of it. 😕 I want 250 on everything.
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Spoken like a true champ! Well done chuck!
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Deicide wrote:
Is there even a limit?I was gonna max out my attack and defense just for the hell of it. 😕 I want 250 on everything.
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ʟuca wrote:
Lemme try. It was suggested here that people offended by the "R" word delete the game, cancel Internet and cable, and just watch PBS.Can someone with a DAS translator F dat chit up.
The truth is, most people are completely ignorant about the collateral damage and sheer callousness of throwing the word "retard" around.
A general rule of thumb... If you wouldn't use a pejorative term for a group of people in front of those people, don't use it in a public forum.
I'm well aware of our right to say whatever we like. But I don't think many people who call their aquaintances "retard" are fully aware how cruel it is to people living with mental disability. A friendly turf bashing gets that point across, and it is our right to do so.
It's just a game. Relax.
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