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☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ Sep 4, 2013

Do we think because we have language, or do we have language because we think?
iamcanadian 🔨🔥💀 Sep 4, 2013

I like turtles!
☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ Sep 4, 2013

🍁 iamcanadian 🍁 wrote:
I like turtles!

Did you think of this? Would you be able to think of turtles if you didn't have a word for it?
iamcanadian 🔨🔥💀 Sep 4, 2013

☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
🍁 iamcanadian 🍁 wrote:
I like turtles!

Did you think of this? Would you be able to think of turtles if you didn't have a word for it?
No need for words, just show me a picture of a turtle or a actual turtle!
sadsam Sep 4, 2013

42.
☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ Sep 4, 2013

🍁 iamcanadian 🍁 wrote:
☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
🍁 iamcanadian 🍁 wrote:
I like turtles!

Did you think of this? Would you be able to think of turtles if you didn't have a word for it?
No need for words, just show me a picture of a turtle or a actual turtle!
But how would you think about it if you didn't have language to describe it?
CͣAͩNͩINE Sep 4, 2013

We have a language because we think, if we did not think there would be no need for a language because we would not convey our ideas, what I think anyway
☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ Sep 4, 2013

CͣAͩNͩINE wrote:
We have a language because we think, if we did not think there would be no need for a language because we would not convey our ideas, what I think anyway

Did we think about things before we developed a language?
CͣAͩNͩINE Sep 4, 2013

☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
CͣAͩNͩINE wrote:
We have a language because we think, if we did not think there would be no need for a language because we would not convey our ideas, what I think anyway

Did we think about things before we developed a language?
I'd reckon so, because we would have to think to develop the language, however a language really does help because it gives you something to think in.
MͣAͩUͩLER Sep 4, 2013

it's been proven that apes think about what they are doing and their survival patterns, apes don't have a language, humans developed from apes therefore I believe that language developed from thought
ყoցi Sep 4, 2013

Body language plays an enormous part in how we communicate, as do pictures. We developed thought that prompted us to communicate more through gestures and drawings which developed our brains further and thus allowed us to eventually develop language. Q.E.D
☫🐓O JONES 2.0☫ Sep 4, 2013

We think without language and we have language because of vocal cords and sight. I'm sure blind deaf people still think of something.
☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ Sep 4, 2013

cocojones 1.5 wrote:
We think without language and we have language because of vocal cords and sight. I'm sure blind deaf people still think of something.

Helen Keller would be a good case study to look into to prove that theory.
M A X I M U S Sep 4, 2013

CͣAͩNͩINE wrote:
We have a language because we think, if we did not think there would be no need for a language because we would not convey our ideas, what I think anyway

I'm with canine on this one, thoughts came before language...
Hyena Sep 4, 2013

MͣAͩUͩLER wrote:
it's been proven that apes think about what they are doing and their survival patterns, apes don't have a language, humans developed from apes therefore I believe that language developed from thought

I'm pretty sure that apes and dolphins do have language. Just like you can't understand a remote lost tribe in Papua New Guinea, their language has not been learnt by humans. But I'm pretty sure they can understand each other.
★MΛΥΗΞΜ★ Sep 4, 2013

⌖🔥ཧ़ཀंེབ།༨ཛყ🔥⌖ wrote:
MͣAͩUͩLER wrote:
it's been proven that apes think about what they are doing and their survival patterns, apes don't have a language, humans developed from apes therefore I believe that language developed from thought

Apes do have a language, just not a spoken vocabulary type language.
Every species that lives in a social group communicates. Sonar, scent, noises, movements, all forms of communication. Ants, bats, dogs, mice, apes dolphins, whales, fish all have a form of communicating. Oh and apes have a very advanced vocal form of communicating, so I would say yes they do have a language. This question is too philosophical for me to answer yes or no. Orginisms were communicating long before there was any cognitive thought process involved. Does a tree think? Do they talk?
ᏨᗴᎡᏖᏬ$ᗪ Sep 4, 2013

Research has shown even fauna to shrink away from threats to themselves. That's defence and a form of communication. We have never unraveled how other species etc communicate. And to what degree but they definitely do in my opinion. Glad I had a notification. I enjoy this stuff.
🐕Travdog70🐕 Sep 4, 2013

I think I thought about it ,but i don't have the thoughts to put it into words
Traüger🏃Retired Sep 4, 2013

MͣAͩUͩLER wrote:
it's been proven that apes think about what they are doing and their survival patterns, apes don't have a language, humans developed from apes therefore I believe that language developed from thought

Actually, we developed WITH apes, not from them. Those aren't the same apes & monkeys humans evolved from. We just share a very distant primate ancestor.
📽ʗяㅌョƿⓢӈṏ₩🤓 Sep 4, 2013

I have my own language when I'm hammered. I communicate well with other drunks.
✯RagnarLoðbrók✯ Sep 4, 2013

I think I'll take a dump.
Bernie Green Sep 4, 2013

⌖🔥ཧ़ཀंེབ།༨ཛყ🔥⌖ wrote:
@★MΛΥΗΞΜ★
I have seen research that states that plants do communicate. In one experiment they plugged them up to a polygraph machine to see if they in fact had emotion and thus thought. Interesting findings. Also another study suggest that they communicate using a network of underground fungi.

By research, Did you mean "Epic" or "Avatar"?
ᏚᴡᴀᴍᴘᎠᴏɴᴋᴇʏ Sep 4, 2013

So. If someone moves to a different country, and learns their language, do they still think in their native language?
davey da kidd Sep 4, 2013

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☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ Sep 5, 2013

★ՏωɑɱpƊṏɳkɛʏ★ wrote:
So. If someone moves to a different country, and learns their language, do they still think in their native language?

I know a guy from Columbia. He thinks in English here, and Spanish when he's in Columbia.
⌖Շ☠ངんꀨ😲🔫😏⌖🖕 Sep 5, 2013

Can you think of a new color then describe it to me?
Add ANACONDA Sep 5, 2013

sadsam wrote:
42.

Definitely. It's the answer to everything.
✯ᎷᎪᎠᎠᎻᎪᎢᎢᎬᏒ✯ Sep 5, 2013

All language is, is a way to speak our thoughts. When you do a task with just yourself you don't need to talk in your head to do it.
qweeter1997 Sep 5, 2013

We have language because we think.
Thinking can exist without language, language would be nothing without thought.
Language is for communicating thoughts.
ყoցi Sep 5, 2013

Bernie Green wrote:
⌖🔥ཧ़ཀंེབ།༨ཛყ🔥⌖ wrote:
@★MΛΥΗΞΜ★
I have seen research that states that plants do communicate. In one experiment they plugged them up to a polygraph machine to see if they in fact had emotion and thus thought. Interesting findings. Also another study suggest that they communicate using a network of underground fungi.

By research, Did you mean "Epic" or "Avatar"?
Smokey's right. An experiment was conducted on 2 separate groups of trees that were divided by a hill and about a mile apart. Various stresses were introduced to one group and the control group responded as if the stresses had been applied directly to them. It was concluded that the mycelium network in the soil that covered all the area of ground between the 2 groups of trees acted as a complex communication network.
CopperTop Sep 5, 2013

Chucky Sparklez wrote:
sadsam wrote:
42.

Definitely. It's the answer to everything.
Not just everything...
And another thought, do computers "think" or are they told what to say?

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