👨GAY MEN CAN'T DONATE BLOOD👨
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...and the moral of the story is ...
Ah, screw it. I mean, what?! 😳
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Bloodless surgery is the way to go these days there is almost no surgery that can't be done without blood.
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༄☣βŁιnd☠Łιmιτ☣༄ wrote:
Actually that is incorrect.Anal sex among gay men is unavoidable. So most likely the risk of hving HIV is very very high.
According to a sexual study, only about 50% of homosexual males engaged in said activity.
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-10/iu-nsf101811.phpAlso, from what I have read anal sex between heterosexual couples is becoming "popular." 44% for males and 36% in females, having tried/attempted anal sex.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf(Just educating people, not trying to argue.)
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༄☣βŁιnd☠Łιmιτ☣༄ wrote:
Says the man who has never heard of a blowjob or mutual masturbation.Anal sex among gay men is unavoidable. So most likely the risk of hving HIV is very very high.
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My girlfriend has taken it in every hole in her body, she can still donate.
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Here's my take on it:
Donating blood is supposed to be done to help others. Unfortunately there is no full proof way to catch tainted blood in any fashion (aids, hep, etc.) due to mechanical error, human error, combination of both or other "random" reasons. Because there is no 100% screen for potentially harmful pathogens, it becomes a "limiting the risk" type of process. While it is represenceable to many of us when we hear of "groups" being limited or repressed in any way, shape or form, I think it's important to stop and look at what exactly is being limited here. We are not saying you can't drive, vote, ride the bus, suck cock or run for president (some consider that the samething). It is simply saying that due to preceived risk factors, we are declining your willingness to help at this time. -
It's no different than how the majority of the population makes decessions on a daily basis, risk versus reward. Unfortunately this can't be done on an individual basis in this case. I can't, as an individual, say yes, it's ok for me to receive blood from homosexual or heterosexual donors. So the agency as a whole needs to make wide spread assumptions based on the greater health & safety of the entire donor & recipent pool.
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🔥Gr⌖ucho🔥 wrote:
On a seperate note, I've always said there was "something" I liked about your girlfriend. I was never able to put my...finger...on it up till now. Thanks for helping me figure it out. 👍My girlfriend has taken it in every hole in her body, she can still donate.
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🔥Gr⌖ucho🔥 wrote:
In the ear? Aural sex??!?!?!!?My girlfriend has taken it in every hole in her body, she can still donate.
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Boner Jams '03 wrote:
Yes! More of punishment for not listening lol teach her to play deaf🔥Gr⌖ucho🔥 wrote:
In the ear? Aural sex??!?!?!!?My girlfriend has taken it in every hole in her body, she can still donate.
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Sabasaul wrote:
Guess I walked into that one🔥Gr⌖ucho🔥 wrote:
On a seperate note, I've always said there was "something" I liked about your girlfriend. I was never able to put my...finger...on it up till now. Thanks for helping me figure it out. 👍My girlfriend has taken it in every hole in her body, she can still donate.
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Saba, I agree with most of what you said but shouldn't the restriction still apply to anyone who has had anal intercourse? That's really the high risk, not having *any* type of sex between two males.
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Saba, I agree, but think the lines need to be drawn elsewhere. The questions asked during screening are already quite personal, so why not get super graphic and in depth to find out if the risky behavior is really risky? Like you're a gay man (risky as a group), but you've never had anal sex (the behavior that is risky). Oral is pretty low risk, hand jobs (or foot or whatever) are essentially zero. Or how about gay men that are neg and have been celibate for the last decade?
Conversely, what if a woman is really into anal and has had many hetero adventures (with strictly hetero guys, as far as she knows)? I don't think she's a great candidate to donate blood for a while.
Sorry I'm so long winded, but I'm pretty passionate about increasing the blood (and organ) supply. There's so much need and not enough to go around. -
ZRAYGO wrote:
Stupid scouts... I am gonna leave their sorry asses and gonna make a BETTER scout group with my friends! Scouts can't do Motorsports (go karting racing, motorcycling, etc) Well, our group will allow that! No Airsoft?! We will bring the Airsoft!!!! Screw the scouts!Tom Servo 👊🔨💀 wrote:
Hahahaha. Good memory!Hey Z what about pot smoking gay Cub Scout leaders in the army can they donate blood?
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fuqyall wrote:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20130315-detailed-stats-aid-dallas-county-hivaids-fight-but-ignorance-stigma-hinder-success.ece☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
Do you know where I can find that information? I'd really like to have it and can't find anything with an Internet search.Fine with me, there is a new statistic in Dallas of 3 new studies of the HIV virus appearing in mostly in Gay men. There were billboards for Gay awareness of men who have sex with men.
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YOU wrote:
http://m.dallasvoice.com/protest-planned-hills-anti-gay-remarks-10151111.html?mobile-redirector-transfer=truefuqyall wrote:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20130315-detailed-stats-aid-dallas-county-hivaids-fight-but-ignorance-stigma-hinder-success.ece☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
Do you know where I can find that information? I'd really like to have it and can't find anything with an Internet search.Fine with me, there is a new statistic in Dallas of 3 new studies of the HIV virus appearing in mostly in Gay men. There were billboards for Gay awareness of men who have sex with men.
Here are the billboards they put up👆
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I took the liberty of copying the portion of the article I could access on my phone to paste here. This was posted June 21, 2013:
"And the statistics are alarming.Dallas County has the highest HIV infection rate in Texas. Of those new infections, 49 percent are in the African-American community. That rate is four times as high as in the Hispanic community and three times as high as whites.
About three out of four new infections in Dallas County, including in African-Americans, are in men who have sex with men.
That prompted the choice of the photo and placement of the two billboards."
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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
http://www.dallasvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/aids-billboard-5.jpg ahh oh better get the check up👈fuqyall wrote:
Kaboom! What a beauty of a statement!I'm in strong opposition of hate-filled attitudes.
Don't mind Aug. he's like my sister in law. If they're holy and you're not, they're better than you. Period. No gray area. Seems like a very stifling way to live. I bet he buttons his shirts all the way to the top button too. -
However- this doesn't mean there is a high infection rate among LGBTs; it means it is higher than other groups. It also doesn't mean those of us who practice safe sex, get tested regularly, or have been in a monogamous relationship for a long time are any more dangerous to the blood supply than a promiscuous straight woman. I still maintain that the woman who acts as a semen depository for all -ahem- comers has a higher likelihood of having tainted blood.
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The rules have recently changed in Canada. If I remember from the article I read back in May the question now is if they have remain celibate for five years before giving blood. It's still leaves the majority of gay men locked out. Hopefully they will look into it again in the near future. It use to be if you had sex with another man since 1977 so everytime I give blood I have to count the years on my fingers. 😉
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Why not just say nothing has been up there so you can donate...
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★MΛVΞЯICK★ wrote:
You were having sex with men back in 1977? How old are you?... It use to be if you had sex with another man since 1977 so everytime I give blood I have to count the years on my fingers. 😉
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For uppity gays that feel it's unfair I can't donate blood either. As a straight service member that proudly serves amongst homosexuals I'm denied based on WHERE I've been and not WHO I've been with. You can lie during the initial interview and still donate. THEN you place the "use my blood for testing" sticker on the bag. If you KNOW you're clean (NOT THINK) then donate.
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Donkfish wrote:
I don't know what "babeosis" is, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Schmidty might suffer from it. I mean, if she were president, she'd be Baberaham Lincoln.El Chu, I don't think there's such thing as further screening. It's not like they have a more effective test for HIV than the one they usually use (I hope!)
BTW, HIV isn't the only thing they worry about. Hepatitis, BSE, Chagas' disease, babeosis (sp?), and a whole boatload of others.
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Donkfish wrote:
I give elbow jobs, EJs. Pretty low risk.Oral is pretty low risk, hand jobs (or foot or whatever) are essentially zero.
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Bella, if that's your only risk factor, I'm happy to take your blood.
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It's babesiosis. Flu like symptoms, or no symptoms, or death. Spread by ticks.
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Donkfish wrote:
Oh :/ it sounded hot. I'd call Schmidty "The Boner Donor".It's babesiosis. Flu like symptoms, or no symptoms, or death. Spread by ticks.
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Donkfish wrote:
Okay, well I suppose that's not my only risk factor, but my blood is clean and it's Type O Negative, universal donor!Bella, if that's your only risk factor, I'm happy to take your blood.
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treybo130 wrote:
Encouraging people to lie? Seriously? 😒For uppity gays that feel it's unfair I can't donate blood either. As a straight service member that proudly serves amongst homosexuals I'm denied based on WHERE I've been and not WHO I've been with. You can lie during the initial interview and still donate. THEN you place the "use my blood for testing" sticker on the bag. If you KNOW you're clean (NOT THINK) then donate.
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