Can we please spare a thought?
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First of all, my thoughts go to the family that have lost à husband/dad.
This is just an act of barbarism that makes me ashamed of beeing human...
I havent wacthed the video, but from what i gathered by listening to the radionews this morning, one of the attackers said that "women in my country have to see this everyday"
Correct me if im wrong on this please, but if its true that hè did say this:
Why the fuck didnt you stay there then? We dont need that fucking barbarism where we live, and if your women have to see that everyday, its because of sick people like you mofo!Useless violence, and i hope im wrong, but i got à feeling that its only going to get worse...
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Had the police "shot to kill", the ability to gain information would be nil. Bringing them in alive allows for gaining possible vital intelligence. It's not about making sure we preserve the life of the attackers, more ensuring they are not connected to a larger, more coordinated plan of attack. As much as we would love to have seen these monsters put down like the dogs they are, the potential of saving more innocent lives on the back of good intel shouldn't be ignored.
The whole situation is incredibly sad, as with any innocent loss of life. This particular attack is far more shocking because of the barbaric way in which they carried it out. Sickening. My thoughts are very much with the family of the soldier, one can't imagine how they'll be processing this.
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🏃💨fartex💩 wrote:
First of all, my thoughts go to the family that have lost à husband/dad.
one of the attackers said that "women in my country have to see this everyday"
Said in his best south London accent, the guy sounded just like dizzy rascal (sorry dizzy)) - doubt the guy has ever even been out of the UK
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Also don't think the interrogation of these guys will lead to any useful information being obtained, these guys are not going to be a part of a bigger cell, I believe they would just have concocted this plan themselves - and probably just to make themselves famous, with the ultimate aim of becoming martyrs to the cause (if they had been shot and killed) - no 40 virgins for these guys as they have to rot in isolation for the next 50 years
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Just came onto the news one guy named they're known to the security forces. Who the fuck are watching the wankers
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I don't want to offend anybody but weren't they doing it in the name of Allah ?? I can't believe this is happening in The UK..... I hope Ukip wins the elections ...
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Ukip wants England for the English it wouldn't of helped us here as they are english
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℣ϊ₭ȉ₦Ǥ👹 wrote:
🏃💨fartex💩 wrote:
First of all, my thoughts go to the family that have lost à husband/dad.✂
Also don't think the interrogation of these guys will lead to any useful information being obtained, these guys are not going to be a part of a bigger cell, I believe they would just have concocted this plan themselves -
Judging by the information we have now you're probably right. Although at the time, on the ground, there was no way of being sure of this. On the other hand, attempting to get a grasp of their mentality could still provide useful knowledge in preventing similar situations in the future.
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✧Ɲɑpoɭeoɳ✧ wrote:
I'm not sure what point you're attempting to put across here!? Are you suggesting that we alienate and boot out religious groups?I don't want to offend anybody but weren't they doing it in the name of Allah ?? I can't believe this is happening in The UK..... I hope Ukip wins the elections ...
Despite what you might think, UKIP isn't a branch of the BNP.
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✧Ɲɑpoɭeoɳ✧ wrote:
Something seriously needs to be done about these issues. I'm a British Asian Muslim and I have always got along with fellow British people (white/black/asian) but I'm sick and tired of hearing about these so-called "Islamists." Yes these terrorists claim that they are doing these barbaric acts and killing innocent people in the name of Allah, in the name of Islam, but they are so warped and have skewed the religion so much. How can they claim to be Muslims when Islam teaches about how to respect everyone despite their colour/creed/race/religion, and they can't even follow the basicsI don't want to offend anybody but weren't they doing it in the name of Allah ?? I can't believe this is happening in The UK..... I hope Ukip wins the elections ...
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These guys aren't true proper Muslims, these guys are a bunch of f*** ups who are brainwashed and I hope this man's family get the justice they deserve. I'm sick of people tarnishing every Muslims name with the likes of these animals - we're not all like. Just like the EDL marching through Woolwich attacking Mosques and normal people like myself. It's time all the British people got together and fixed this mess, including the Muslim community, instead of constantly being divided causing more racial division and tension.
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ADD HASS wrote:
👍These guys aren't true proper Muslims, these guys are a bunch of f*** ups who are brainwashed and I hope this man's family get the justice they deserve. I'm sick of people tarnishing every Muslims name with the likes of these animals - we're not all like. Just like the EDL marching through Woolwich attacking Mosques and normal people like myself. It's time all the British people got together and fixed this mess, including the Muslim community, instead of constantly being divided causing more racial division and tension.
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LOGISTICS wrote:
Death would have been an easy way out for them. But saying that they will only live like kings in jail. R.I.PI'm in complete shock and totally sicken but this mindless violence that has happened!!! My thoughts are with his family and friends.
Why did the police not shot to kill? If that was a dog attack they wouldn't have taken a second thought at killing them but in my eyes these men are the lowest of the low and don't deserve to live for what they have done!!!!! -
There ain't nothing we can do, like ADD HASS said not all Muslims are the same so we just have to wait till shit happens 😔 I say burn the human rights book it's not work it's just giving power to idiots.
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http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpsZBaJU_Cvo
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※ Ꭰ Ꭺ Ꮩ Ꭼ Ᏼ ※ wrote:
I saw the documentary to this when it came on tv sometime last year I think. I was so disappointed to see this and couldn't believe it but it doesn't hightlight much, we all know there is some extremism around in Britain and that Anjem Choudhury who speaks with the woman is a lunatic too. Once again that was a small minority of Muslims in the Luton area, this doesn't represent them all, fighting is the last thing this situation needs. Yes there are a lot of angry people out there including myself, but fighitng will only breed more hate, hence more division and probably more extremismhttp://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=psZBaJU_Cvo&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpsZBaJU_Cvo
Sorry dont know if this works but you have to watch this -
ADD HASS wrote:
You sir, are an example of what many muslims are and think. Its à minority screwing it up for the majority. Ive grown up between people from marroco and turky, sure there were à couple of haters amongst them, but i always think of this one guy, always calm in his ways, never hating anyone, even standing up if à (forgive for the expression) "white" guy got jumped by à group of them. In the end, the whole neighbourhood started to know this guy, and to date, hè still is taking care of both sides. But like i said, to bad à couple of brainwashed fuckups screw it up for à lot of good people.These guys aren't true proper Muslims, these guys are a bunch of f*** ups who are brainwashed and I hope this man's family get the justice they deserve. I'm sick of people tarnishing every Muslims name with the likes of these animals - we're not all like.
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Hass that's how the country is seeing your religion we aren't see any good. Me personal think you are doing the holy crusade that the Catholic Church did in the past. Or maybe I just simplifying things
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This is truly fucked up. Thoughts and prayers go out to all affected by this cowardly act 🙏
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An incredible show of courage from the women that were on the scene, talking to the murderers to deflect their attention from the children present, taking the pulse of the soldier and potentially risking their lives.
While the police takes 20 minutes to arrive on the scene.
Horrifying story.
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Prayers for that fallen's family
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ADD HASS wrote:
These guys aren't true proper Muslims, these guys are a bunch of f*** ups who are brainwashed and I hope this man's family get the justice they deserve. I'm sick of people tarnishing every Muslims name with the likes of these animals - we're not all like. Just like the EDL marching through Woolwich attacking Mosques and normal people like myself. It's time all the British people got together and fixed this mess, including the Muslim community, instead of constantly being divided causing more racial division and tension.
Nicely said Hass, but unfortunately the UK allows all the radicals and extremists on all sides too cause the divides, as it keeps the masses of us preoccupied to cover the incompetence of how our country is run
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※ Ꭰ Ꭺ Ꮩ Ꭼ Ᏼ ※ wrote:
Hass that's how the country is seeing your religion we aren't see any good. Me personal think you are doing the holy crusade that the Catholic Church did in the past. Or maybe I just simplifying things
Problem is Dave is the Muslim community just get on with there shit and you only hear about things when there are these fucking nut jobs. My brother is barracked in woolwich and thankfully he called us all but it didn't mean I wanted to torch my local mosque cause of a couple of wankers. There's some pedo in court atm for murder but what are we all discussing?
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The soldier was 25years old, a recent father and his name was Drummer Lee Rigby. Thoughts to him an his family! And all my other fallen comrades!
Other news, a 29 year old man and woman have been arrested on conspiracy to murder!
I still can't think of a suitable punishment! Let em bleed to death, revive them, torture them, let em bleed to death again and keep the cycle going don't even come close
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The footage looked like a movie set, grandma cruising by with her stroller. Best believe if some dudes in the street with a meat cleaver and covered in blood I'm either:
A) Running the opposite way.
B) Getting the largest object to impale these fucks with.
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Believe it or not some people believed it was a film set! Don't ask me how but that's what some reports are saying! I got a feeling the EDL will be marching around again tonight
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ADD HASS wrote:
The world community. Not just the Brits. Reacting to terrorism with terrorism makes those people just as bad as the originator. If you cause terror to one person or a group of people then you are a terrorist no matter your religion or lack thereof. And no matter your motivation. This whole idea that the word terrorist is solely ascribed to Islam is bollocks. Propaganda at its best.These guys aren't true proper Muslims, these guys are a bunch of f*** ups who are brainwashed and I hope this man's family get the justice they deserve. I'm sick of people tarnishing every Muslims name with the likes of these animals - we're not all like. Just like the EDL marching through Woolwich attacking Mosques and normal people like myself. It's time all the British people got together and fixed this mess, including the Muslim community, instead of constantly being divided causing more racial division and tension.
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ADD HASS wrote:
Firstly there is nothing "normal"These guys aren't true proper Muslims, these guys are a bunch of f*** ups who are brainwashed and I hope this man's family get the justice they deserve. I'm sick of people tarnishing every Muslims name with the likes of these animals - we're not all like. Just like the EDL marching through Woolwich attacking Mosques and normal people like myself. It's time all the British people got together and fixed this mess, including the Muslim community, instead of constantly being divided causing more racial division and tension.
And secondly the EDL was not marching through woolwich smashing up mosques !! -
Magikz wrote:
Didnt say they were smashing shit up! Just said they were marching! I did hear reports that gravesend mosque was battered! Don't know how true that isADD HASS wrote:
Firstly there is nothing "normal"These guys aren't true proper Muslims, these guys are a bunch of f*** ups who are brainwashed and I hope this man's family get the justice they deserve. I'm sick of people tarnishing every Muslims name with the likes of these animals - we're not all like. Just like the EDL marching through Woolwich attacking Mosques and normal people like myself. It's time all the British people got together and fixed this mess, including the Muslim community, instead of constantly being divided causing more racial division and tension.
And secondly the EDL was not marching through woolwich smashing up mosques !! -
There are some truly SICKENING people out there, may they burn in hell! RIP to the soldier and condolences to his friends and family
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What has immigration got to do with this?
As far as throwing out human rights... Spare a thought for how silly that actually sounds. There are sick and twisted people out there in society, that's why we have legal systems.... If we start steering away from such systems then terrorism has won, because that's when we ALL lose rights.
As for the police response time, there are way too many inaccurate reports going around. There were in fact several officers on scene within a few minutes... However, because this is the UK, not all officers carry firearms. The Trojan team were en-route within 5 minutes of the initial 999 call. Lets remember, this is a free country where we don't have armed personnel posted at the corner of every street. They were there and had isolated the incident within 17 minutes of the call going in. Maybe this begs the question, should all cops be armed?
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