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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
The only problem that the CIA encounters with torture (I know some CIA) is that when being tortured you say whatever you think that the torturer wants to hear.Benny DaBOSS🔫💀🌄 wrote:
Know why the CIA tortures people? Because it works.🎸Ꭲ✯ℌ༏ננβ༏ננƴ🎸 wrote:
No, are you saying there is no torture going on in that place? Don't be naive.I'd say something, but then I'd cause a shit storm…
And Benny, you've been watching too much far left liberal media.
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Grimm tortured me once! 😳
He wore me like a puppet... On his hand... 👊
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We may be spending the most on weapons but at least we are much safer and stronger then most other nations
You may be stronger, but where I live (UK) do you see every 3-4 weeks someone going round a school/university/shopping mall/public place and shooting people dead???? I don't think so!
Yes, when we do have situations like that it is saddening to see someone just going off the rails but it is mostly very rare.......unlike the USA where you have the right to bear arms (I think under the 2nd amendment) and lo behold you have people going round like crazies shooting people!!!! -
fun time wrote:
How is it unconstitutional?This thread should be deleted as we seem to not be able to stay on topic and it seems to be getting explosive
As for my opinion on Guantanamo Bay, I'm neutral about it because it is unconstitutional but it is also needed
Every nation holds enemy soldiers taken off the battlefield. Well, not all, some just kill captured enemy.
The reason many of them are not charged with anything is, they haven't committed a crime. That doesn't mean we have to release them. They were fighting against us on a battlefield, and we are still fighting the war. When the war is over they should be released as soon as is practical. (Within hours or days in my opinion)
Additionally, some of them have been cleared for release, but their own countries won't accept them back. What should we do then? Send them to a country that glorifies their radical beliefs and wants them? How is that in our interest?
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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
“You give me a water board, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders."Benny DaBOSS🔫💀🌄 wrote:
Know why the CIA tortures people?🎸Ꭲ✯ℌ༏ננβ༏ננƴ🎸 wrote:
No, are you saying there is no torture going on in that place? Don't be naive.I'd say something, but then I'd cause a shit storm…
And Benny, you've been watching too much far left liberal media.
Because it works. -
Ojibwe wrote: “You give me a water board, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders."
...said someone who obviously doesn't know a damn thing about "waterboarding." -
"Our enemies didn't adhere to the Geneva Convention. Many of my comrades were subjected to very cruel, very inhumane and degrading treatment, a few of them even unto death. But every one of us -- every single one of us -- knew and took great strength from the belief that we were different from our enemies, that we were better than them, that we, if the roles were reversed, would not disgrace ourselves by committing or countenancing such mistreatment of them."
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Ojibwe wrote:
Said no jihadist ever."Our enemies didn't adhere to the Geneva Convention. Many of my comrades were subjected to very cruel, very inhumane and degrading treatment, a few of them even unto death. But every one of us -- every single one of us -- knew and took great strength from the belief that we were different from our enemies, that we were better than them, that we, if the roles were reversed, would not disgrace ourselves by committing or countenancing such mistreatment of them."
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It seems a lot of people raging out with strong voices should try reading a little bit. Tunnel vision hinders us all sometimes, how we learn from our stupidity makes all the difference. This is a good place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees
Obviously we're all entitled to our opinions but try and form them from something other than the 6oClock news!
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Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т wrote:
Wikipedia isn't an accurate source. Just throwing that out there. Not saying its wrong just saying I don't trust it.It seems a lot of people raging out with strong voices should try reading a little bit. Tunnel vision hinders us all sometimes, how we learn from our stupidity makes all the difference. This is a good place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees
Obviously we're all entitled to our opinions but try and form them from something other than the 6oClock news!
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Benny DaBOSS🔫💀🌄 wrote:
But it (usually) cites more trustworthy sources that you can read if you preferᏦ͜иιɢн͡т wrote:
Wikipedia isn't an accurate source. Just throwing that out there. Not saying its wrong just saying I don't trust it.It seems a lot of people raging out with strong voices should try reading a little bit. Tunnel vision hinders us all sometimes, how we learn from our stupidity makes all the difference. This is a good place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees
Obviously we're all entitled to our opinions but try and form them from something other than the 6oClock news!
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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
Said, John McCain in 2005.Ojibwe wrote:
Said no jihadist ever."Our enemies didn't adhere to the Geneva Convention. Many of my comrades were subjected to very cruel, very inhumane and degrading treatment, a few of them even unto death. But every one of us -- every single one of us -- knew and took great strength from the belief that we were different from our enemies, that we were better than them, that we, if the roles were reversed, would not disgrace ourselves by committing or countenancing such mistreatment of them."
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༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
Ojibwe wrote:
Said no jihadist ever."Our enemies didn't adhere to the Geneva Convention. Many of my comrades were subjected to very cruel, very inhumane and degrading treatment, a few of them even unto death. But every one of us -- every single one of us -- knew and took great strength from the belief that we were different from our enemies, that we were better than them, that we, if the roles were reversed, would not disgrace ourselves by committing or countenancing such mistreatment of them."
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Benny DaBOSS🔫💀🌄 wrote:
Compared to what?Ꮶ͜иιɢн͡т wrote:
Wikipedia isn't an accurate source. Just throwing that out there. Not saying its wrong just saying I don't trust it.It seems a lot of people raging out with strong voices should try reading a little bit. Tunnel vision hinders us all sometimes, how we learn from our stupidity makes all the difference. This is a good place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees
Obviously we're all entitled to our opinions but try and form them from something other than the 6oClock news!
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Brad Lovegrove wrote:
This plus they have moderators that are very strict on what you edit... also, most pages are locked due to excessive vandalism.Benny DaBOSS🔫💀🌄 wrote:
But it (usually) cites more trustworthy sources that you can read if you preferᏦ͜иιɢн͡т wrote:
Wikipedia isn't an accurate source. Just throwing that out there. Not saying its wrong just saying I don't trust it.It seems a lot of people raging out with strong voices should try reading a little bit. Tunnel vision hinders us all sometimes, how we learn from our stupidity makes all the difference. This is a good place to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Guantanamo_Bay_detainees
Obviously we're all entitled to our opinions but try and form them from something other than the 6oClock news!
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Josh Gillman wrote:
A. Islam is not a violent religion, and the stuff you said earlier about Muhammed was completely false, so not everything, but probably nothing, you have said in this thread is true.One really big ✂
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everything I have said in this thread is true. You can have your stupid opinion but just know that you're wrong. And allah is not the same as THE I AMB. What is 'THE I AM'?
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Eric. wrote:
In Exodus Moses was talking to the one true God and asked Him who he should tell the people of Israel sent him. God told him I AM sent him. I AM means that the real God isn't a has been and He's not a will be, He is always thereJosh Gillman wrote:
A. Islam is not a violent religion, and the stuff you said earlier about Muhammed was completely false, so not everything, but probably nothing, you have said in this thread is true.One really big ✂
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everything I have said in this thread is true. You can have your stupid opinion but just know that you're wrong. And allah is not the same as THE I AMB. What is 'THE I AM'?
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YOU wrote:
Hey dumbass, what do you have to say about this contradiction?Josh Gillman wrote:
You're a stupid hypocrite.Well here's the thing my God and their god are not one. My God tells me to love one another, do good to them that hate you. Their god tells them to blow ppl up and they'll get a reward
"I'm not saying it doesn't bother me but since they torture our ppl we should torture theirs".
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★MΛΥΗΞΜ★ wrote:
Human error. It's a humans natural reaction to get mad when they are attacked. That doesn't mean it's right but we were all born with a sin nature and only by the grace of God we can fight itYOU wrote:
Hey dumbass, what do you have to say about this contradiction?Josh Gillman wrote:
You're a stupid hypocrite.Well here's the thing my God and their god are not one. My God tells me to love one another, do good to them that hate you. Their god tells them to blow ppl up and they'll get a reward
"I'm not saying it doesn't bother me but since they torture our ppl we should torture theirs".
Can you figure it out by yourself? -
Josh Gillman wrote:
So your "god" made you want to kill and torture people but "he's" the one who also makes you not want to kill and torture people? Sounds more like you were born an asshole.★MΛΥΗΞΜ★ wrote:
Human error. It's a humans natural reaction to get mad when they are attacked. That doesn't mean it's right but we were all born with a sin nature and only by the grace of God we can fight itYOU wrote:
Hey dumbass, what do you have to say about this contradiction?Josh Gillman wrote:
You're a stupid hypocrite.Well
"I'm not saying it doesn't bother me but since they torture our ppl we should torture theirs".
Can you figure it out by yourself? -
Where did you get that my God wanted me to torture and kill people? I simply said that it was human nature to get back at someone when they did something to you.
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The media is full of shit to brainwash people like some of you lot on here who don't have a clue what there talking about and act like they know it all, it just goes to show how easily people believe rubbish and spread it and this is the reason why there's so much hate and anger and racism
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ATI™ wrote:
The reason for hate, anger, and racism is ignorance. There's no other excuse. People can blame media all they want. Rational human beings think for themselves.The media is full of shit to brainwash people like some of you lot on here who don't have a clue what there talking about and act like they know it all, it just goes to show how easily people believe rubbish and spread it and this is the reason why there's so much hate and anger and racism
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☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
👍༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
There are some here who deserve that treatment, but they get a fair trial because they are a "citizen". I don't think that's fair. We're not better than the rest of the world.Some of the people that are there deserve to be there and whatever it is they get.
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Josh Gillman wrote:
This is crap that will get you banned in this gameThose of you who say gitmo is inhumane are stupid. What's inhumane is people who blow other people up just cuz they think they get 70 virgins when they get to heaven. I would much rather have the CIA assassinate or imprison people than have some towel head blow up more Americans
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☦ΔUGUSTIΠΣ☦ wrote:
One's citizenship does not matter in the US criminal system. If one has been charged criminally you are entitled to the same Constitutional protections if you are an illegal alien, legal immigrant, legal non-immigrant alien, or US citizen. Ones immigration status or country of citizenship does change how you are treated in the criminal system.☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
👍༺☠Ꮹཞ༏ཀཀ☠༻ wrote:
There are some here who deserve that treatment, but they get a fair trial because they are a "citizen". I don't think that's fair. We're not better than the rest of the world.Some of the people that are there deserve to be there and whatever it is they get.
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Josh Gillman wrote:
God created you? Then he created human nature.Where did you get that my God wanted me to torture and kill people? I simply said that it was human nature to get back at someone when they did something to you.
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Benny DaBOSS🔫💀🌄 wrote:
Let me rephrase that, Its our sin nature that causes us to sin. God didn't create sin nature. Adam gave every man and woman a sin nature when he sinned in the garden. This means that even though God did create humans and He did create our nature, Adam is who gave us all the willingness or desire to sinJosh Gillman wrote:
God created you? Then he created human nature.Where did you get that my God wanted me to torture and kill people? I simply said that it was human nature to get back at someone when they did something to you.
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