Rev. Terry Jones = 👿
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BAS wrote:
Wow I notice you conveniently skipped by the "truth" you know when someone pointed out the Brits are the biggest war criminals in history...in case you missed it here it is again.I condemn all attacks on innocent people but the truth hurts u yanks
You raped and killed the scots for how long was it?
You sailed your boats across the ocean stole all these peoples land and committed genocide on so many tribes.
The truth is the Brits are the ones with skeletons in there closets...sorry bud you loose...am I'm not even american
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Timecop wrote:
As a vet from Iraq, any soldier, civilian, or other who dies and is claimed to have died as retaliation for this "pastors" actions, he should be tried for treason and aiding and abetting criminals in the commission of crimes against human life.
Totally agree brother!
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BigBK wrote:
I'm afraid u lose Im Irish u idiotBAS wrote:
Wow I notice you conveniently skipped by the "truth" you know when someone pointed out the Brits are the biggest war criminals in history...in case you missed it here it is again.I condemn all attacks on innocent people but the truth hurts u yanks
You raped and killed the scots for how long was it?
You sailed your boats across the ocean stole all these peoples land and committed genocide on so many tribes.
The truth is the Brits are the ones with skeletons in there closets...sorry bud you loose...am I'm not even american
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No bud, you still loose cause you're clearly just a douche then. and all my points still hold true. You're just trolling for arguments. My point and standing was that the Americans definatly arn't the biggest war criminals in "history". You clearly need a history lesson and don't know what you are talking about. Win!
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Plus if you read my post I never once said you were British...double win!
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Oops my bad I see I did say "you" at one point...nonetheless double win cause you're an asshole anyway...
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BigBK wrote:
And I suppose the US co-ordinating an attack on their own soil in order to gain control of vast oil fields and generate billions of dollars for Haliburton and in turn the governement, and thinly veiling it as 'waging war on terrorism' doesn't count as the most obscene war crime in the history of humanity? It's all fucking bollocks.No bud, you still loose cause you're clearly just a douche then. and all my points still hold true. You're just trolling for arguments. My point and standing was that the Americans definatly arn't the biggest war criminals in "history". You clearly need a history lesson and don't know what you are talking about. Win!
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Honestly I was huge intobthat conspiracy theory 9 years ago when I was a passionate 19 year old hippy. If that's the case then I would agree it is the most atrocious war crime in "modern" history. But that's just speculation...I also don't believe we landed on the moon but I'm not gonna sit on a turf wars forum to debate conspricy theories. Wanna roll a spliff and chat about it? I'm in. But as you can see topics like this flame up quick on the interwebs. So I stand behind known "truths" (as loose as it may be) when posting in forums
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If there was no oil American would be no where to be seen in middle east war on terror my f ing ass
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Agree with the fact it's on bush's toes! 👍 good call.
So because it happened while Bush was president it was his fault? Clinton is the one who didn't take bin laden seriously and passed up the opportunity to have him arrested and extradited by Sudan (I believe it was).... But perhaps u are too far on the left to see that
And the OP is trying to compare deaths from allergic reactions to peanuts to terrorists attacks (and for some reason 9/11 doesn't count as one) as if one doesn't mean more then the other and they are simply numbers?
Not understanding this...
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Anyways I recently read something I thought was interesting... It basically explained that we are letting the terrorists win by being so afraid of the Koran burning, through their past actions we live in such fear it is ridiculous! The media shouldn't give this guy the time of day and blow this whole thing out of proportion! Obv I don't support this moron doing this and disrespecting Muslims but he has the right to be an idiot because this is America.
Do you think the media would be going crazy if it was a Bible burning? Oh wait YouTube Bible burning and you will find it is pretty commonly done, and people don't care as much because they know the people behind it are simply ignorant.
So, don't let the terrorists win!
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GatorFarm - most of your facts are wrong. Clinton was bombing bin laden during the lewinski scandal (in response to terrorism) and conservatives like the Bush crowd were saying he was doing it just to take attention off lewinski. Also, bush admin got clear warnings about bin laden in transition (read Richard Clarke's book - he was at NSA in both administrations) but did not carry on the Clinton admins terrorism suggestions and they ignored the intel reports on pending USA attacks.
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I'm not a Clinton fan but I'm even less of a bullshit fan so don't try to blame Clinton for 9/11 when a lot of the fault lies in the leaders at the time. They didn't even have a response to the USS Cole attacks that I could tell. Also, Sudan is a shithole - they couldn't and wouldn't have "extradited" bin laden to the USA. They were pissed when we bombed bin ladens factories in their caveman country
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Yea some republicans were saying Clinton was doing the attacks to redirect attention, who cares that is irrelevant to the argument......
But yea u r right Sudan was lying and you know more then everyone.... I guess since u hate BS so much U saw right through Not only Sudans offer but the audio clip of Clinton admitting he didn't accept the offer.... Man u are good
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GatorFarm wrote:
Gatorfarm, the way Conservatives reacted when Clinton was going after bin laden is very relevant to what you're saying about him. The reason being is youre talking attack politics and not fact, just like they did at that time.There was never a chance to "extradite" bin laden from Sudan - there weren't even charges against bin laden LOL All of this is in the 9/11 Commision Report. Educate yourself, don't just go on what Right or Left wing pundits say.Yea some republicans were saying Clinton was doing the attacks to redirect attention, who cares that is irrelevant to the argument......
But yea u r right Sudan was lying and you know more then everyone.... I guess since u hate BS so much U saw right through Not only Sudans offer but the audio clip of Clinton admitting he didn't accept the offer.... Man u are good
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You missed the part where I told you I listened to audio of Bill Clinton explaining that he was offered Bin Laden by Sudan but he turned them down.
This was in '96 before Bin laden had actually committed an attack against the US, yes, however they knew he had plans to commit crimes against the US (which is against the Law).
So now here is were opinion comes into play... I blame Clinton for not getting him then when he could have and u blame Bush for not going after against him hard enough after the USS Cole? Right?
Anyways please don't bring up attack politics like liberals don't do it! They are also the ones that cry the most when they are used against them.
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GatorFarm wrote:
Is this audio from your personal conversation with Clinton? Read the 9/11 report - there were no grounds for extradition, there was no Sudanese negotiation for one. Clinton never, "had the chance" to arrest bin laden and in fact, was more interested in dropping a bomb on him. Dude, you're just a partisan - Clinton could have slew bin laden while curing cancer and delivering a baby and someone like yourself would be sitting on the sideline calling him a fuckup.You missed the part where I told you I listened to audio of Bill Clinton explaining that he was offered Bin laden
This was in '96 before Bin laden had actually committed an attack against the US, yes, however they knew he had plans to commit crimes against the US (which is against the Law).
Anyways please don't bring up attack politics like liberals don't do it! They are also the ones that cry the most when they are used against them.
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Also, unlike you - I'm not "blaming" Bush. 9/11 came about based on 25 years of bad policy decisions and isn't just the fault of one person.
I'm just not going to ignore the responsibility of the Bush admin in ignoring the warnings when he became president and the 2 year history prior to his taking office. Bush should be held accountable for such misteps.
The lack of a response by the incoming admin to the USS Cole attack was reprehensible and let's not forget - the Bush admins first top staff meeting on terrorism happened on 9/5/01. Despite the history and the current threat assessments they finally got around to a meeting after 9 months in office?! (also realize - Bush was privy to the same info as Clinton in terms of national security as soon as he became the official nominee of the repub party) -
Not sure why u keep denying the audio as if it is fake or something....
Anyways this whole debate started when some kid who knew nothing blamed Bush and said it was all his fault. So of course I am going to jump in and say that I felt it was more Clintons fault, of course shocking them because they probably didn't ever consider that because they are simply left wing nuts.
Now when it comes to me being partisan you don't know anything about my political views beyond this instance so u are taking quite a leap of faith. I think Clinton was a scumbag as a person don't get me wrong but I believe he was a really good president and I would much rather have him in office then obama anyday
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