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I don't see the point in troubling American studetns with these nerve racking tests. I realize it's a way to evaluate a students comprehension of a broad range of subjects, but I think there should be a different way to do this. I believe instead of making students a nervous wreck and probably getting an unfair reflection of their knowledge, why not put the tests in segments so the students can gather their bearings and tackle the test one step at a time. I believe this would lead to better test scores and ultimately a higher rate of college attendance overall.
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I agree. They do not test you of your true knowledge.
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Do you think colleges want people that can't work well under pressure? And what happens when you get a job and have to do something that puts a lot of pressure on you? Ask your boss for an extension so you can take it in segments? No. Just no
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I get to take these this year 😁
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ωⅇɢṡɪⅇṣ wrote:
👆👆👆👆👆Do you think colleges want people that can't work well under pressure? And what happens when you get a job and have to do something that puts a lot of pressure on you? Ask your boss for an extension so you can take it in segments? No. Just no
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i thuoght they represented my class rather accurately. the kids who got better grades got better scores than the kids that got poor grades with a few exceptions. my math score was near perfect and my reading/writing was average which was exactly what my grades and class schedule showed. i always thought that was the point. to give schools a standard test to show a lifetime of school. has been almost 20 years since i took them so im sure its not the same but i bet the reason for it is the same.
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How about this: grow a pair and take the damn test. Don't stress out, just do it. It's all just general knowledge anyway.
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ωⅇɢṡɪⅇṣ wrote:
I believe the time management and the skills to work under pressure will work themselves out in college. College is where these main fundamental skills are built. It gives you the big transition from high school to college. It then gives you the necessary skills to enter the work forceDo you think colleges want people that can't work well under pressure? And what happens when you get a job and have to do something that puts a lot of pressure on you? Ask your boss for an extension so you can take it in segments? No. Just no
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adambomb wrote:
You're basically saying you're not developed enough yet to take a test? So the average person matures in college. Do good colleges want your average student? No, they want people that will go beyond this make them look goodωⅇɢṡɪⅇṣ wrote:
I believe the time management and the skills to work under pressure will work themselves out in college. College is where these main fundamental skills are built. It gives you the big transition from high school to college. It then gives you the necessary skills to enter the work forceDo you think colleges want people that can't work well under pressure? And what happens when you get a job and have to do something that puts a lot of pressure on you? Ask your boss for an extension so you can take it in segments? No. Just no
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Standardized tests are not a good way to evaluate critical thinking skills and are not always accurate on showing intellect. Unfortunately there is not enough time to grade other types of tests on such a large scale. College does bring together the necessary skills but unfortunately this is how things are. I had to take the GRE to get into graduate school and its essentially the same thing. If you can think of a better way to do it let me know cause i sure dont
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Why get nevous? Why stress? I slept through most of the SAT when I took it. Take it easy school is suppose to prepare you. Make sure your school is accredited and offering A-G courses.
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Standardized tests are exactly what they claim to be. Standard. Everyone takes the same test in the same amount of time with the same tools. It's not meant to be easy or hard. It's meant to standardize the judging of applicants. High school courses, teachers, curriculums, grading scales, favoritism, etc are all different. Would you like to be judged on an uneven scale? Then sure, get rid of the standardized test. If you want an equal shot, though, maybe just get better at time management and dealing with pressure. Those skills aren't developed in college, they are needed there. Best get a handle on that before you start, or maybe not go at all.
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★Λubergine★ wrote:
👏Well said aub!Standardized tests are exactly what they claim to be. Standard. Everyone takes the same test in the same amount of time with the same tools. It's not meant to be easy or hard. It's meant to standardize the judging of applicants. High school courses, teachers, curriculums, grading scales, favoritism, etc are all different. Would you like to be judged on an uneven scale? Then sure, get rid of the standardized test. If you want an equal shot, though, maybe just get better at time management and dealing with pressure. Those skills aren't developed in college, they are needed there. Best get a handle on that before you start, or maybe not go at all.
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There really is no better way to evaluate students.
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Tests are not the best way to evaluate students. Anybody can go in, shut up and memorize their facts. If I were a company/collage I would rather have a student that made A's and B's and can think critically and out the box rather than the all A's student that shouts out memorized facts when you asked him how a capacitor works and the theory behind it.
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mr gagnsta wrote:
"If I were a company"Tests are not the best way to evaluate students. Anybody can go in, shut up and memorize their facts. If I were a company/collage I would rather have a student that made A's and B's and can think critically and out the box rather than the all A's student that shouts out memorized facts when you asked him how a capacitor works and the theory behind it.
Yep. I think I know why you wouldn't hire smart people.
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Keep in mind, the test is the most stressful thing in one's life. The perspective changes, sure, but it is always stressful.
In high school it's the SAT. In college its the AIDS/STD test. Early 20's it's the Pregnancy test. Then late 20's it's the Credit Score Test. Early 30's its the Bankruptcy Test. Later in life it becomes the cholesterol test, followed by the blood pressure test, and then the worst of all: the malignant biopsy aka the Cancer Test. Life is one big stress test adambomb. Good luck with your SAT ☺
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It's the same thing as finals time in college. Pending how many classes you take, you will need to cram multiple subjects in at once.
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mr gagnsta wrote:
So you'd rather employ someone with worse grades AND worse test scores than the person with higher grades and better test scores?Tests are not the best way to evaluate students. Anybody can go in, shut up and memorize their facts. If I were a company/collage I would rather have a student that made A's and B's and can think critically and out the box rather than the all A's student that shouts out memorized facts when you asked him how a capacitor works and the theory behind it.
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ωⅇɢṡɪⅇṣ wrote:
Critical thinking ability is a must. I get where he's coming from.mr gagnsta wrote:
So you'd rather employ someone with worse grades AND worse test scores than the person with higher grades and better test scores?Tests are not the best way to evaluate students. Anybody can go in, shut up and memorize their facts. If I were a company/collage I would rather have a student that made A's and B's and can think critically and out the box rather than the all A's student that shouts out memorized facts when you asked him how a capacitor works and the theory behind it.
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SAT's don't predict the future. A considerable amount of research, including but not limited to a summary of more than 600 studies published by the College Board in 1984, has found that only about 12 to 16 percent of the variance in freshman grades could be explained by SAT scores, suggesting that they are not particularly useful even with respect to that limited variable -- and virtually worthless at predicting how students will fare after their freshman year (and whether they will graduate).
This is quoted from an Alfie Khon article. He has some really good points about education reform. -
B✖dϻrҒr✖stʏ wrote:
I don't think SATs apply the right kind of pressure. They have no way of assessing critical thinking, or creative abilities.I think everyone should get a trophy and never have pressure.
You know so they are ready for the real world.
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I've interviewed PhDs that I failed on the interview because they choke at simple questions and over think stuff. They all did very well on their SATs but some people are better suited for the safe bubble of academia.Just like college isn't for everyone.
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ChubsTheWalrus wrote:
👆👆👆👏👏👏👏👆👆👆I agree. They do not test you of your true knowledge.
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The real problem is why colleges and universities are so expensive.
Many European countries are cheap, or even free.
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🔥SirTalkALot🔥 wrote:
This is Murica god dang it. Poor people don't deserve educations.The real problem is why colleges and universities are so expensive.
Many European countries are cheap, or even free.
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🔥SirTalkALot🔥 wrote:
I bought France for $10 and Begium was free. I love package deals!The real problem is why colleges and universities are so expensive.
Many European countries are cheap, or even free.
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☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
Why not?🔥SirTalkALot🔥 wrote:
This is Murica god dang it. Poor people don't deserve educations.The real problem is why colleges and universities are so expensive.
Many European countries are cheap, or even free.
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🔥SirTalkALot🔥 wrote:
Like I said, this is Murica. *sarcasm*☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
Why not?🔥SirTalkALot🔥 wrote:
This is Murica god dang it. Poor people don't deserve educations.The real problem is why colleges and universities are so expensive.
Many European countries are cheap, or even free.
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🔥SirTalkALot🔥 wrote:
because they have less money then us.☣ 🎸ӈɪƖƖßıƖƖγ🎸☣ wrote:
Why not?🔥SirTalkALot🔥 wrote:
This is Murica god dang it. Poor people don't deserve educations.The real problem is why colleges and universities are so expensive.
Many European countries are cheap, or even free.
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Anyone can know the answer to a question. But people who can apply skills from the question to life are called "successful"
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