NDAA - National Defense Authorization Act

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FRΞΞ☠ΜΛSΟΠ Feb 4, 2013

Before I get bashed for this thread and my source, can someone better explain what this act is?

I am having trouble understanding what this bill actually means. The guy on this website seems a little "out there."

http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_john_noveske_mysterious_death_car_crash.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/034537_NDAA_Bill_of_Rights_Obama.html
GreenManXphile Feb 4, 2013

think of it as a 2nd bill of rights... which isnt constitutional.. yet no one is noticing...
★Λubergine★ Feb 4, 2013

What the NDAA really is, is the yearly DoD budget, approved by Congress.
✯RagnarLoðbrók✯ Feb 4, 2013

★Λubergine★ wrote:
What the NDAA really is, is the yearly DoD budget, approved by Congress.

👆This.
There is a PDF of the 2013 NDAA readily available on-line, 680 some pages. (No I have no read it).
FRΞΞ☠ΜΛSΟΠ Feb 4, 2013

Thanks.

Can anyone make sense of those links? My first guess is that they are too far fetched. My reason for asking is that I do not have any background or understanding of this bill.
★Λubergine★ Feb 4, 2013

http://www.naturalnews.com/038616_john_noveske_mysterious_death_car_crash.html

This one speaks of a secret kill list. "Obama himself actually signed into law the NDAA which authorizes secret assassinations of U.S. citizens on U.S. soil." If it was secret, it certainly wouldn't make sense to put it into a law that everyone in the world can read. The NDAA does include a few ride-alongs, such as the indefinite detention of American citizens suspected of terrorism. But there's no "secret" kill list already written in. That's just idiotic. No president would bind himself to a set list of assassinations, AND write it into a public law for all to see.

This is the part that really gets me laughing. "a secret kill list of Americans authorized by Obama and designed to be invoked immediately before an attempted radical leftist takeover of the nation."
✯RagnarLoðbrók✯ Feb 4, 2013

ƑƦཇཇ☠ཀaʂ٥ท wrote:
Thanks.

Can anyone make sense of those links? My first guess is that they are too far fetched. My reason for asking is that I do not have any background or understanding of this bill.

Ya. People have all sorts of crazy ideas, based on half known things and speculation.
The problem with conspiracy theories is they require people to keep secrets.

There are to many glory hounds and blabber mouths to keep anything secret anymore. Either the politicians want to celebrate their successes for political benefit, or those who took part want to profit from their experience.

Case in point, the mission to kill Bin Ladin.
★Λubergine★ Feb 4, 2013

http://www.naturalnews.com/034537_NDAA_Bill_of_Rights_Obama.html#ixzz2JxbdyM00

"the Bill of Rights has come to a sudden and catastrophic end with the President's signing of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), a law that grants the U.S. military the "legal" right to conduct secret kidnappings of U.S. citizens, followed by indefinite detention, interrogation, torture and even murder."

Again, they miss the part about the NDAA being a YEARLY budgetary law for the DoD. It's signed by the president EVERY YEAR. It does include some of this other stuff, and also some military pay and benefits stuff. But that's not the purpose. And honestly, I find it refreshing to know that they are actually writing that stuff into a law now so everyone knows. If you think they haven't been black-bagging citizens for decades, you're deluding yourself.

My favorite line: "If Bush had signed a law like this, liberals would have been screaming impeachment!" Bush signed laws like this every year he was in office.
★Λubergine★ Feb 4, 2013

Just for some perspective...
Authorization for Use of Military Force (2001, Bush)
all "necessary and appropriate force" against those whom he determined "planned, authorized, committed or aided" the September 11th attacks, or who harbored said persons or groups
NDAA 2012 (2012, Obama)
Section 1021(a) Congress affirms that the authority of the President to use all necessary and appropriate force pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force includes the authority for the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons pending disposition under the law of war. it goes on to say that covered persons are those involved in 9/11/01 attacks or those part of or supporting al-Qaeda or the Taliban.

So some nutjob is attacking Obama for supporting a law signed by Bush to detain actual terrorists.