"Right to Work"
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Add: OLSEN wrote:
Glock45 wrote:
Serious dude? Jesus Christ! A diesel mechanic down here in oz wouldn't be on anything lower than $25 an hour!My brother lived in Texas n worked for a bus repair facility his pay was 16.00 an hour for class A diesel mechanic. He now lives in Mich does same job but diff company his pay is 22.75 an hour. Texas is a right to work state. I make about 1200.00 more a month than I did working doing same job in Texas. All though I do believe joining a union should be voluntary, but you should only get union benefits if you join.
I just moved to Odessa as a class a diesel mechanic at $32 an hour. Maybe he needed a better company....
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I live in Michigan. The law was just passed here. It's even debatable wether or not it was passed legally. I feel like bashing all the state legislatures who voted for it over the head with a 9-iron.
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Silent Arcani wrote:
This is bull shit. Not 🐮💩. Bull shit.I live in Michigan. The law was just passed here. It's even debatable wether or not it was passed legally. I feel like bashing all the state legislatures who voted for it over the head with a 9-iron.
To even suggest the topic of it being done illegally is a baseless accusation meant only to stir argument from idiots who convince themsleves it it true. -
ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ wrote:
Add: OLSEN wrote:
Maybe bro. I'm an unqualified machine operator and I'm on $24 an hour full time with sick leave and 4 weeks holidays a year. We also have mandatory super paid by our employer. I couldn't tell you exactly what even normal mechanics would be on but it'd be a lot more than me.Glock45 wrote:
I just moved to Odessa as a class a diesel mechanic at $32 an hour. Maybe he needed a better company....
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Add TOW™ wrote:
Do you believe that corporations are just going to hold these work values on their own? Like the five day work week? They still serve a purpose by holding these things in place. It is not within human nature to put individual quality of life ahead of the almighty dollar or equivalent. It's a slow degradation of what our country worked so hard for. Without the boundaries that we as a nation have put in place throughout history we will be reduced back to our former selves before unions. Like China for example. It's class warfare led by corporate America and all you have to do is look at the numbers to see the division and reduction of the middle class, not only with deunionizing, deregulationing and financially segregating education.@ demario
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Sad really, big money has half this country carrying their water for them and for what? So, their children don't have what their parents used to. Reducing opportunity rather than expanding it for all types of people. 👎
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To put it clearly, without the good paying union jobs, the good paying non union jobs would not exist. that's what unions do for you. You may not have something in your hand that you can hold, but you have this work society that it has created and upholds.
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I'm in a right to work state. I work in an aircraft machine shop. It took me a 2 weeks to qualify on my assigned machine and was given a quota of 100 parts an hour for $10 and hour. I averaged around 120 parts an hour. After about 3 weeks I was demoted to building shipping crates for going going too slow, even though I met my quotas. I was replaced by my supervisor's brother-in-law, who took 6 months to qualify, has no quota, and scraps almost 25% of his material for being out of tolerance. I've been trying to find a new job with equal or greater pay for almost 2 years with absolutely no luck. Idk if a union would make a difference, but union shops generally make double what I make.
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lol people are validating the contruction firms in Michigan xD majority of construction in the northeast is Union, the reason he'll get more jobs is because that union is going to die :/ and for you people thinking unions don't serve a purpose anymore, do you really think that if union power was gone that the private sector won't over work us people anymore? Why wouldn't they?
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I just read up a little on the "right to work" states etc and I'm still a little confused haha. Would someone be able to provide just quick run down of how it works for me please? Does it mean you can gain employment if you're not with the union of that industry? Sorry for being a noob and asking probably silly questions but I am honestly interested in how this works.
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★Λddi★ wrote:
Well stated!To put it clearly, without the good paying union jobs, the good paying non union jobs would not exist. that's what unions do for you. You may not have something in your hand that you can hold, but you have this work society that it has created and upholds.
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Before right to work, the terms of employment at a "union shop" would include mandatory withholding of union dues from your paycheck. If you didn't like those terms, on to the next job interview. Right to work says that now you can work in a union shop and enjoy all the benefits of union membership without paying dues. It's designed to slowly destroy unions from the inside, simply put. In states where these laws have been implemented that's exactly what's happened and wages for everyone have suffered as a result. Capital is highly organized, seeking only to maximize it's return on it's labor investment. If labor is simply a disorganized commodity with no leverage and no protected right to organize the results are quite predictable.
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Add: OLSEN wrote:
I'll be back on later tonight and I'll get ya the run down on it. Both the pros & cons when u get back on.I just read up a little on the "right to work" states etc and I'm still a little confused haha. Would someone be able to provide just quick run down of how it works for me please? Does it mean you can gain employment if you're not with the union of that industry? Sorry for being a noob and asking probably silly questions but I am honestly interested in how this works.
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the Anarchist wrote:
No it's not. The supporters had people who opposed it blocked from entering the state capitol, which clearly brakes the law. But, again it's debatable. Regardless, it's still a bad law.Silent Arcani wrote:
This is bull shit. Not 🐮💩. Bull shit.I live in Michigan. The law was just passed here. It's even debatable wether or not it was passed legally. I feel like bashing all the state legislatures who voted for it over the head with a 9-iron.
To even suggest the topic of it being done illegally is a baseless accusation meant only to stir argument from idiots who convince themsleves it it true. -
Demario wrote:
Thank you mate. It really intrigues me as to how things are done over there in regards to work and work place issues, unions etc.Add: OLSEN wrote:
I'll be back on later tonight and I'll get ya the run down on it. Both the pros & cons when u get back on.I just read up a little on the "right to work" states etc and I'm still a little confused haha. Would someone be able to provide just quick run down of how it works for me please? Does it mean you can gain employment if you're not with the union of that industry? Sorry for being a noob and asking probably silly questions but I am honestly interested in how this works.
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