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Well- you said it 'requires a tough response'. Are you suggesting the use of force within their borders? That's more than soliciting opinions.
As for my 'chess analogy'- it is a well known fact in chess that beginners just love to get tough with queen a little too early with dire consequences.
Although it doesn't sound like something Kasporav ever entertained... I'll check out the dubious sounding 'Freddy Mercury Method'. π
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πΕΟΞ±ggΞ΅Π³ ΕΡΡπ« wrote:
Diplomacy can be tough, don't get me wrong. Maybe not as tough as 1981 iraqi-nuke-destroying Israeli missiles, but tough nonetheless.Well- you said it 'requires a tough response'. Are you suggesting the use of force within their borders? That's more than soliciting opinions.
As for my 'chess analogy'- it is a well known fact in chess that beginners just love to get tough with queen a little too early with dire consequences.
Although it doesn't sound like something Kasporav ever entertained... I'll check out the dubious sounding 'Freddy Mercury Method'. π
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I agree and what's not getting much air time these days are the effects of the current sanctions.
Inside intelligence suggest Iran may be on verge of collapse from within by it's own citizenry. That is much more cost effect amongst other things as well.
However, I am never against the use of force- Its just that the reality of force is never what it promises.
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Iran is pissed because the sanctions are kicking ass. They are now taking a page from North Korea's play book. Brinksmanship then negotiate. Iran can't afford trouble now. Economy is in the crapper. They will posture and threaten but not actually step in the ring. Like a gang of thugs against Bruce Lee. Iran wants to exchange drama for easing of sanctions.
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We will lose our superpower,
They don't care anymore, Obama is President now, he's weak and afraid.start building shelters. Lol, what a shame!!!
Fuckin loser for a leader!!! -
'α¦απ΄Ξα‘αα»ΞFβ’ wrote:
That's just sad, China are becoming the biggest economic super power for a reason. And the US were never going to keep up.We will lose our superpower,
They don't care anymore, Obama is President now, he's weak and afraid.start building shelters. Lol, what a shame!!!
Fuckin loser for a leader!!! -
TheRamb Add: 86 wrote:
Have china not overtaken the US already?'α¦απ΄Ξα‘αα»ΞFβ’ wrote:
That's just sad, China are becoming the biggest economic super power for a reason. And the US were never going to keep up.We will lose our superpower,
They don't care anymore, Obama is President now, he's weak and afraid.start building shelters. Lol, what a shame!!!
Fuckin loser for a leader!!!
I'm sure I read an artical over weekend that placed them neck and neck and china has the biggest growth forecast and a chinease company just brought the Branson pickle factory, that's gonna give them the edge for sure. -
El Rey de Tejas wrote:
The only reason Mexico is messed up is because the US govt gave them weapons. They called it "Fast & Furious". Now the US govt is trying to help out Mexico with that ehole problem but its too late nowMy personal semi educated view is this: remove anything from the Middle east that is US has a US emblem or may even just relate to the US. Start protecting our borders. That way If they ever do strike true American soil or waters, then we just bomb the shit out of them. This policy should go for All countries, including Mexico. One of your cartels kidnap and harass Americans we bomb the fuck out of you. World you hate us fine! No money no nothing we will not interfere. You bring it to us we fuck you up. Period.
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"Crazy AK" wrote:
Mexico was messed up before that.El Rey de Tejas wrote:
The only reason Mexico is messed up is because the US govt gave them weapons. They called it "Fast & Furious". Now the US govt is trying to help out Mexico with that ehole problem but its too late nowMy personal semi educated view is this: remove anything from the Middle east that is US has a US emblem or may even just relate to the US. Start protecting our borders. That way If they ever do strike true American soil or waters, then we just bomb the shit out of them. This policy should go for All countries, including Mexico. One of your cartels kidnap and harass Americans we bomb the fuck out of you. World you hate us fine! No money no nothing we will not interfere. You bring it to us we fuck you up. Period.
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243-165-789 wrote:
And Weetabix, those Chinese are unstoppable!!TheRamb Add: 86 wrote:
Have china not overtaken the US already?'α¦απ΄Ξα‘αα»ΞFβ’ wrote:
That's just sad, China are becoming the biggest economic super power for a reason. And the US were never going to keep up.We will lose our superpower,
They don't care anymore, Obama is President now, he's weak and afraid.start building shelters. Lol, what a shame!!!
Fuckin loser for a leader!!!
I'm sure I read an artical over weekend that placed them neck and neck and china has the biggest growth forecast and a chinease company just brought the Branson pickle factory, that's gonna give them the edge for sure. -
In The Bible it says that the world's great superpower will be destroyed by fire. In the world today, Iran is building nukes and at the same time calling The U.S. "the Devil and must be destroyed"
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Glock45 wrote:
Please tell me you're joking. I mean, PLEASE, tell me you're joking. You want American military personnel to go blow up an Iranian warship or nuclear research facility in retaliation for ONE drone that wasn't even hit?Big Stank has it right.
They only fired that missile because we are perceived as week and they know that there will be no consequence just some tough sounding speech that will amount to nothing. We need to respond in a way that has real meaning to them. If we don't they will escalate it until we do. I say take out their nuclear research facilities or capture one of there naval vessels sink it and return their soldiers after intense negotiations. -
Big Stanky wrote:
And the idea of bombing an entire country because of one UAV drone that wasn't even hit is also naive and ignorant.So to all those Doves, should we have any response at all? Should we just say thank you? It's only millions in tax payer dollars, don't worry Obama and his boys will just get that from the rich people, only they get taxed! Should we bomb them over it ? He'll no, that's why you send an unmanned drone, so you don't risk war. Should we respond in some fashion? He'll yeah. The notion of "if we just play nice and leave them alone, maybe they will like us" is not only naive but ignorant.
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Tweek wrote:
Amen.Well, the idiots are out in full force in here.
Think of it this way, how many human lives is a piece of metal and plastic worth?
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The USA wouldn't dare attack Iran. Russian Missle Subs would be off the coast of major cities within a week. Not to mention China's massive army at the ready.
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Let's just hope the few sane responses (415 and tweek as an example) are the actual majority in the US. I can only imagine the others have never actually been the ones sent to do the fighting.
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β±£βΞ»ΠΕΞ©π«ππ» wrote:
And how excactly would China's massive army invade the United States? Have you considered how much of a logistical nightmare it would be for a Chinese army to cross thousands of miles of Pacific Ocean, keeping them regularly supplied, without being detected by the U.S.N. or any other navy, somehow establishing a landing point in the western United States, and then fighting their way all across the country?The USA wouldn't dare attack Iran. Russian Missle Subs would be off the coast of major cities within a week. Not to mention China's massive army at the ready.
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As for the Russian missle subs, unless they just spontaneously appear off of the East Coast, they'd have to make their way to the Atlantic without being spotted by other European countries, cross the Atlantic without being detected, and you're also assuming that the U.S. would do nothing to stop the missles, if they were launched.
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El Rey de Tejas wrote:
ππMy personal semi educated view is this: remove anything from the Middle east that is US has a US emblem or may even just relate to the US. Start protecting our borders. That way If they ever do strike true American soil or waters, then we just bomb the shit out of them. This policy should go for All countries, including Mexico. One of your cartels kidnap and harass Americans we bomb the fuck out of you. World you hate us fine! No money no nothing we will not interfere. You bring it to us we fuck you up. Period.
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