My 2 cents to ur 50k...

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Terfwarrior Oct 16, 2012

If u want to know y college kids are having trouble to find good jobs I will give u my 2 cents. It is because a college grad is the new high school grad 20 years ago.. Meaning 20 years ago a high school degree was good enough for most employers.. But now a college grad might be good enough for most employers but these days a college grad is so common that if u are not in the top 10-5% than u aren't the cream of the crop anymore... A masters is the new college degree and the new get out of debt standard. The bar is constantly being raised only difference is now it cost you more money to meet the standard... It's all inflation and hey money makes the world go round. It's all a business either get with the program or make it who u know...
That is my reasoning.. Any takes?
jake rock Oct 16, 2012

I completely agree with you😉
Terfwarrior Oct 16, 2012

Ya thought about it the other day and I was like hey that kinda makes a little sense of the mess
Add: RARE Oct 16, 2012

I make 37 an hour with no college my cousin has 40k in school loans and makes 14 an hour so ya depends what u want if u want a doctor or lawyer then go for it but if u want an office job or something screw school
🌾ᏦᎻᎪᏞ🌾 Oct 16, 2012

I disagree. Google "educational attainment in the united states" and you'll see that the largest increase in education over the last few generations has been with HS diplomas, not college degrees. In fact, the number of college graduates today vs 1980 has seen very little growth, and in 2012 only about 1 in 5 Americans earn a college degree.

I think the predominant reason college grads are finding it difficult to get hired is because of the cyclical nature of the economy and our current jobless recovery.
ᎷᎪᏟᏦᎷᎬᏟᎻ ᎪᎠᎠ ᏦᎷ Oct 16, 2012

I make 75k a year and got my GED in prison. No college. I have an attitude that nobody owes me a thing. I'm not too proud to flip hamburgers if I have to. My sister graduated from Boston College with a degree in geology. She looks at rocks for a living. Makes 40k with no telling how much debt. Who is the smarter one there?
Brown🎵Note Oct 16, 2012

I think that the change is not so much what education level has become the norm, but rather the shift from a manufacturing economy to a service economy. The jobs changed more than the education standards.

Most people here still do not achieve even a 4-year degree, but with the lack of manufacturing jobs, "regular" people are pushed down to retail and hospitality.

While the high school level jobs now earn less than they used to, everyone wants a desk job with higher education requirements.

It is the shrinking middle class... (Damn I hate saying that) that gives the appearance of higher education requirements to "make it".
Brown🎵Note Oct 16, 2012

DAMN YOU JAMES CAMERON!!!

STOP RAISING THAT DAMNED BAR!!!
🌾ᏦᎻᎪᏞ🌾 Oct 16, 2012

Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
I think that the change is not so much what education level has become the norm, but rather the shift from a manufacturing economy to a service economy. The jobs changed more than the education standards.

Most people here still do not achieve even a 4-year degree, but with the lack of manufacturing jobs, "regular" people are pushed down to retail and hospitality.

While the high school level jobs now earn less than they used to, everyone wants a desk job with higher education requirements.

It is the shrinking middle class... (Damn I hate saying that) that gives the appearance of higher education requirements to "make it".

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So much this.
Terfwarrior Oct 17, 2012

Hmm all interesting points... I guess there is so much that factors into the equation further than my initial thoughts.. All in all very interesting
c ⌖😱ᵙǥͨ Oct 17, 2012

read a while ago that 55% or so of college grads are either unemployed ir underemployed. but if your degree is in math, science, technology, it was less than 4%. but only 14% of grads hold these degrees.
★Λubergine★ Oct 17, 2012

In reality, the unemployment rate in USA for 4-year degree holders has remained relatively constant over the past several years, both before and after the "crisis." It is 4-5%, which is the normal unemployment rate. That 4-5% is mostly made up of people who are transitionally unemployed, and is of little concern to anybody, including the unemployed.
ЯĔςкӀΞSS✧И↭山↭Я✯ Oct 17, 2012

Well, to be honest, your argument doesn't hold up to statistics. According to the Census Bureau, only thirty percent of Americans have a college degree and EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT (the vast majority) of those have a job upon graduation. Bottom line: nothing guarantees you a job but a college degree still greatly improves your odds.