What's the matter with the attack button?
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nick wrote:
Nope still slow here. Same one device I've always used. Both 4g and Internet. Definitely not the same as before. I'd say with my stats I could be considered a reasonably good source when it comes to attack speed.Right this minute, we're seeing people from all over the world running 2-3 attacks per second – a rate comparable to the pre-iOS 6 release. Based on hard data — as in microsecond-precision server logs – this doesn't appear to be a problem anymore.
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TW_Support says:
"As the guy who was running 10+ attacks per second—possibly from 2 devices—last weekend, it's understandable that you'd be acutely affected by the recent changes, so we'll take this feedback with a grain of salt."
I can guarantee you I was getting 10 attacks a second on ONE device last weekend prior to the fix. Just trying to help clarify that it was definitely possible with one device.
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★BugsBunny★ wrote:
nick wrote:
Nope still slow here. Same one device I've always used. Both 4g and Internet. Definitely not the same as before. I'd say with my stats I could be considered a reasonably good source when it comes to attack speed.Right this minute, we're seeing people from all over the world running 2-3 attacks per second – a rate comparable to the pre-iOS 6 release. Based on hard data — as in microsecond-precision server logs – this doesn't appear to be a problem anymore.
Bugs, I hate to directly contradict you (apparently some think stating facts is "bad customer service"), but I looked at the logs for your last attacks and you're averaging roughly 2 hits per second.
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nick wrote:
Was it a fact that Groucho used 2 devices? No, and that is bad customer service.★BugsBunny★ wrote:
nick wrote:
Nope still slow here. Same one device I've always used. Both 4g and Internet. Definitely not the same as before. I'd say with my stats I could be considered a reasonably good source when it comes to attack speed.Right this minute, we're seeing people from all over the world running 2-3 attacks per second – a rate comparable to the pre-iOS 6 release. Based on hard data — as in microsecond-precision server logs – this doesn't appear to be a problem anymore.
Bugs, I hate to directly contradict you (apparently some think stating facts is "bad customer service"), but I looked at the logs for your last attacks and you're averaging roughly 2 hits per second.
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I think my point here wasn't meant to go off on the customer support side of things (which having managed a CS team for the leading aviation iOS app, I am uniquely qualified to speak to), it was that we, who have played the game for some time, and have millions of attacks combined, are noticing a longer server induced lag than we had before, and it is negatively affecting game play.
We report it, using the feedback method provided, in an effort to enhance and improve the game experience for everybody - friend and foe - and are brushed aside.
Others, are pm'ing me in PAL and letting me know they are experiencing the same results.
It's easy to view server logs and be assured that the users are nuts, but maybe there is something to the human minds ability to sense minute changes in pace and timing that is what is being reported. That was my intention.
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nick wrote:
Bugs didn't say 2 hits per second... I imagine Bugs would be in the 10 per sec category... So don't worry, you didn't directly contradict anyone.★BugsBunny★ wrote:
nick wrote:
Nope still slow here. Same one device I've always used. Both 4g and Internet. Definitely not the same as before. I'd say with my stats I could be considered.Right this minute, we're seeing people from all over the world running 2-3 attacks per second – a rate comparable to the pre-iOS 6 release. Based on hard data — as in microsecond-precision server logs – this doesn't appear to be a problem anymore.
Bugs, I hate to directly contradict you (apparently some think stating facts is "bad customer service"), but I looked at the logs for your last attacks and you're averaging roughly 2 hits per second.
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Take this with a grain of salt as well but just a few hours ago, I whined to Augustine when we were trading hits for XP, that I missed the uber cool bionic attack button speeds.
What I didn't mention to Augustine was that I'd noticed a bit of improvement in the ER button speed from an annoying snails pace heal.
Weirdly, was just now returning some more hits on Augustine a few minutes ago, and the attack button was super fast again. Bionic fast!!!
Knock on wood?....
That said, could be glitching on me and I'm in no way some power hitter. (Plus could be hardware possibly as I'm on the new iPhone with newest OS).
The ones to listen to are the true button warriors like Bugs n Groucho, IMO.
Still... could be a hopeful sign?
Just interesting that this morning I perceived it still slow and now I'm perceiving it über fast.
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😘 Saleo.
I wouldn't stay it's uber fast now like a week ago, but we're getting there. Let me go cap some more bad guys and I'll report back.
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Ya know, you try to run a perfectly legit, scientific experiment. You pick your perfect test subject. You get your subject in the crosshairs and start firing... and he sends you horses heads, impeding the progress. Some people can be such a buzzkill. 😝
Data obtained, inconclusive. Will reinitiate experiment when subject enters REM sleep. 😴
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★Λubergine★ wrote:
Of course you have no context of where that number came from (that's the on-server processing time, with no network latency), but please continue to offer your expert opinion on the matter!Not to be a bother and use some math to contradict you nick, but if TW_Support said Groucho must have been using 2 devices to get 10 attacks per second, and TW_Support ALSO said that the glitchy quick speed you tested was <50ms per attack, then in reality, based on math, your glitchy quick speed would allow for 20 attacks per second, from ONE device, yet you think someone was using two devices to do it. That's the bad CS part. Math, it's a bugger.
Every now and then I need to be disabused of the idea that rational discussion can occur on the forums – thanks for reminding me of that again.
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⌖🔥Groucho🔥⌖ wrote:
Ya know, you try to run a perfectly legit, scientific experiment. You pick your perfect test subject. You get your subject in the crosshairs and start firing... and he sends you horses heads, impeding the progress. Some people can be such a buzzkill. 😝
Data obtained, inconclusive. Will reinitiate experiment when subject enters REM sleep. 😴
Hahaha!
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Well I'm no super attacker...don't even do it that often. But as of late.....it's been SUPER slow. 1-2 attacks a second. I'd like to go faster but am unable too. That's on both 3G and wifi.
Thought I'd throw my 2 cents in.
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nick wrote:
★Λubergine★ wrote:
Of course you have no context of where that number came from (that's the on-server processing time, with no network latency), but please continue to offer your expert opinion on the matter!Not to be a bother and use some math to contradict you nick, but if TW_Support said Groucho must have been using 2 devices to get 10 attacks per second, and TW_Support ALSO said that the glitchy quick speed you tested was <50ms per attack, then in reality, based on math, your glitchy quick speed would allow for 20 attacks per second, from ONE device, yet you think someone was using two devices to do it. That's the bad CS part. Math, it's a bugger.
Every now and then I need to be disabused of the idea that rational discussion can occur on the forums – thanks for reminding me of that again.
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Nick if I read this correct and I'm not hallucinating then you stated with glitchy speed it was 50ms per attack then aubergine did some math found that if Groucho managed that then cs A. Cs was being a mule (you know what I mean by mule and not a mule account) and B. They were treating Groucho like something they scraped off their shoes.Then unless I'm mistaken you realized cs had put it's foot in it's mouth you tried to save it by saying that that was not real when you said that then what is am I the only person who thinks it will be just enough that Groucho will have to have used 2 devices then "CS would be right!!" you and in your last message you said
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Every now and then I need to be disabused of the idea that rational discussion can occur on the forums – thanks for reminding me of that again. Such a great way to prove Cs cares nick great job (mute me ban me attack any of those will only prove my point more nick I'm sending this message to some friends in case you make it so no one can see it even if you do any of these luckily I don't have nearly as much in this as your loyal customers who are feeling this a lot harder
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⌖🔥Groucho🔥⌖ wrote:
Someone still lacks people skills I see. Unbelievable.Just got this "thoughtful" reply from support, after I suggested that, after smashing the Attack button a quarter of :
TW_Support says:
"As the guy who was running 10+ attacks per second—possibly from 2 devices—last weekend, it's understandable that you'd be acutely affected by the recent changes, so we'll take this feedback with a grain of salt."
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Nick, as per usual, we know your game better than you do. You know this, we prove it every time. We actually play it. A crowd of people doesn't just get together and decide to make some bs up just to fuck with you. You should really get a front man that knows how to speak to people to deal with support messages. Or learn to treat other people like human beings.
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I noticed it was slow earlier today when I was providing air support & capping Bella for loot. Then a couple of hours ago it seemed to be a lot better. However, I haven't done as much attacking as earlier, so, as Groucho suggested, perhaps more experimentation is needed (in the form of me capping). 😜
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Nick if you can see Groucho using two accounts at once why isn't he banned ??? That will prove u speak true .
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Mystery wrote:
😂 lol, this is priceless! Thank you.I noticed it was slow earlier today when I was providing air support & capping Bella for loot. Then a couple of hours ago it seemed to be a lot better. However, I haven't done as much attacking as earlier, so, as Groucho suggested, perhaps more experimentation is needed (in the form of me capping). 😜
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★Λddi★ wrote:
I'm Hyena laughing. It is the same 'Crowd of Clowns' making BS up as usual. Only difference is the don't have Humpty Dumpty backing them up. Prolly why they're trying to make something outta this cause they are feeling insecure. Just a thought. Hehe. ✌⌖🔥Groucho🔥⌖ wrote:
Someone still lacks people skills I see. Unbelievable.Just got this "thoughtful" reply from support:
TW_Support says:
"As the guy who was running 10+ attacks per second—possibly from 2 devices—last weekend, it's understandable that you'd be acutely affected by the recent changes, so we'll take this feedback with a grain of salt."
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Nick, as per usual, we know your game better than you do. You know this, we prove it every time. We actually play it. A crowd of people doesn't just get together and decide to make some bs up just to fuck with you
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No no kitty kat. We said the attack button. Not the mission buttons. No worries. They will all still work for you. Go collect your horse heads.
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attack button seemed alright to me now. but this was an interesting read...😐
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I quess I won't be dropping any more green backs on this game. I thought I was the only one to get such great feedback from support.
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TW support will ensure the game gets to a top rated app... NO
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shaggly razors wrote:
Not using 2 accounts, using 2 devices with the same account on it... This isn't against Tos...Nick if you can see Groucho using two accounts at once why isn't he banned ??? That will prove u speak true .
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YOU wrote:
Or is it? Lol...shaggly razors wrote:
Not using 2 accounts, using 2 devices with the same account on it... This isn't against Tos...Nick if you can see Groucho using two accounts at once why isn't he banned ??? That will prove u speak true .
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Working again at normal speed for me 👍👍
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Still doesn't seem right, I'm getting maybe 1 per second (big maybe).
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☣ ᏔλᎡᎡĮØᎡ ☣ wrote:
shaggly razors wrote:
Not using 2 accounts, using 2 devices with the same account on it... This isn't against Tos...Nick if you can see Groucho using two accounts at once why isn't he banned ??? That will prove u speak true .
Like I said, it was on my iPad 3, with a very rapid thumb twitching over the attack button, not two devices, not two accounts or any pixie dust. The game allowed rapid attacks. I attacked at the speed that the game allowed, simple as that.
Turn off the current pauses and take us back to last week's speed and I'll be happy to demonstrate :)
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The attack speed is not back to pre IOS6. Simple as that. I have a very fast connection and can get maybe 1.5 hits/sec on average. Believe me I've tested on my end against several players. I'd be more than happy to share the SS so they can be matched up against the logs to help define where the problem is.
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