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So it has been a crazy few days. To get through as much as possible and to be clear, I'll use a list. Structure is a good thing
Introduction
(1) I don't play this game as much as most of you, in fact since posting on Thursday I have not even been back on the game, so have spent a few minutes now reading through most of the fall-out on the original post, the "proof" videos and obviously my wall.
(2)Threats and abuse really don't phase me at all, but if it makes you feel better to message me just how horrible you think I am, go ahead (no sarcasm or malice) seriously go for it, just know that you will be the only one to feel anything from it.
(3) I said I would "look into" and research Sara, truthfully I have had very little time or inclination. I am a very busy person with a lot of responsibilities and as it happens it looks like a lot of people have done the leg work for me.
(4) Thank you to those people and those who have actually sent messages of support. I didn't expect it at all, and each name is noted. -
(5) The fact that I have actually come back to reply has been for those mentioned in (4)
Sara
(6) Most people are unfortunate enough to know/ support someone with Cancer. I am in that majority. In my personal opinion, cancer is not a joking matter and I fail to see any reason why someone would speak about cancer in anything other than a sincere, honest way.
That being said…
(7) I am a human being (no violins please) but I get angry. Reading the story about an ill cancer patient being photographed before receiving emergency medical treatment “because it was a crime scene” is laughable. And for you to believe it is even more so.
(8) That for me tipped off what to me seemed like an attention seeker. We all know attention seekers, in fact many of you have said that I have sought attention. Well, at least I know 100% I have been honest and open in getting it, although I can assure you it was not my goal. -
(9) I am not going to pick apart every aspect of Sara’s story, if you lie about a critically ill cancer patient once, you probably have before and will do it again. When it comes to those kinds of liars I have a “go fuck yourself” kinda attitude. If I was to go through all the evidence that has been sent to me and that I have seen, it can all easily be covered by more lies. Jamie/Sky whoever you are, you’re only going to deny it. So what’s the point?
(10) Sara/Jamie/Sherry, if you do have cancer I feel for you. But for exaggerating/ lying, you owe the people who care about you an apology. You have their attention, you don’t need to make up stories to generate more. Everyone hates cancer.
(11) Why I did this? I hate liars. End of.
(12) I’m sure this is likely to be picked apart, contradicted, scrutinized etc and I’m sure I’m likely to get a few more horse heads too. Thankfully, you all have a right to do so. -
Well said and well written
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Well said, JX.
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Right to say it man.
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Took some courage. Well done bud👍
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@sinister kid, schmidty and kelliot. Thanks guys, didn't expect the first 3 replies to be positive ones.
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You're still cool in my book JX. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and beliefs. I actually found the people opposing what you said to cause more trouble than you did.
Hope you're good, and they'll get over it sooner or later.
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Haha!! Here he tries again... Now it'll be a 6 page long thread and he'll not post again and I'll end up with a income of 50k and 3 people will quit😜 anyway, maybe I'll restrain myself this time... Maybe not 😠
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Karas wrote:
Thanks Karas, I appreciate that. Your vid was awesome by the way, hope you're feeling better.You're still cool in my book JX. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and beliefs. I actually found the people opposing what you said to cause more trouble than you did.
Hope you're good, and they'll get over it sooner or later.
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Add JX wrote:
No worries.Karas wrote:
Thanks Karas, I appreciate that. Your vid was awesome by the way, hope you're feeling better.You're still cool in my book JX. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and beliefs. I actually found the people opposing what you said to cause more trouble than you did.
Hope you're good, and they'll get over it sooner or later.
I'm feeling much better. Over the worst of it. Thanks for asking.
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YOU wrote:
Mmmm....😌 feelin the burn😝Haha!! Here he tries again... Now it'll be a 6 page long thread and he'll not post again and I'll end up with a income of 50k and 3 people will quit😜 anyway, maybe I'll restrain myself this time... Maybe not 😠
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Ʀɑƶɵʀвɑʗĸ🔥💢👣 wrote:
Happy to respond to anyone my friend, just might take some time between each post.YOU wrote:
Mmmm....😌 feelin the burn😝Haha!! Here he tries again... Now it'll be a 6 page long thread and he'll not post again and I'll end up with a income of 50k and 3 people will quit😜 anyway, maybe I'll restrain myself this time... Maybe not 😠
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It's important people read this
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So what about what most of us were saying. If youre right, the community gains nothing. If you are wrong, you caused a lot of stress to a terminally ill person. You accepted this risk and gambled based on circumstantial speculation, and you did so in the most public way possible. For that, you are classless
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Your call out served no purpose and offered no benefit while it risked so much pain and suffering...
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Z👿 wrote:
👆👆👆👆👆👆👆So what about what most of us were saying. If youre right, the community gains nothing. If you are wrong, you caused a lot of stress to a terminally ill person. You accepted this risk and gambled based on circumstantial speculation, and you did so in the most public way possible. For that, you are classless
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Z👿 wrote:
This. Regardless of how sure you are/were, you must accept there's at least a small chance you were wrong. It was a cruel risk with no potential benefitSo what about what most of us were saying. If youre right, the community gains nothing. If you are wrong, you caused a lot of stress to a terminally ill person. You accepted this risk and gambled based on circumstantial speculation, and you did so in the most public way possible. For that, you are classless
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Brad Lovegrove wrote:
Don't know z very well. But this has pretty much been my thought process all along.Z👿 wrote:
This. Regardless of how sure you are/were, you must accept there's at least a small chance you were wrong. It was a cruel risk with no potential benefitSo what about what most of us were saying. If youre right, the community gains nothing. If you are wrong, you caused a lot of stress to a terminally ill person. You accepted this risk and gambled based on circumstantial speculation, and you did so in the most public way possible. For that, you are classless
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Z👿 wrote:
That's a good point, although that's the risk Sara/ Jamie took by baring their sleeves to a community of people you are never going to meet. The whole "photos before paramedics" is beyond questionable to tell the truth.So what about what most of us were saying. If youre right, the community gains nothing. If you are wrong, you caused a lot of stress to a terminally ill person. You accepted this risk and gambled based on circumstantial speculation, and you did so in the most public way possible. For that, you are classless
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Add XXL wrote:
Actually. Sara had a bit to say its true, but I think Jaimie is the one that put the rest wasnt it? Sara just wanted to say "what's up guys I love u wizzo!" but, who was the one that told us about the chair incident? Just askin, not trying to be a dick. Litterally.just.asking.Z👿 wrote:
That's a good point, although that's the risk Sara/ Jamie took by baring their sleeves to a community of people you are never going to meet. The whole "photos before paramedics" is beyond questionable to tell the truth.So what about what most of us were saying. If youre right, the community gains nothing. If you are wrong, you caused a lot of stress to a terminally ill person. You accepted this risk and gambled based on circumstantial speculation, and you did so in the most public way possible. For that, you are classless
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XXL and JX are right about that. I never followed the story so I never even noticed, but as a former paramedic, crime scene be damned, medical emergencies come first. You ever heard of a cop stopping treatment on a patient because he got shot? Hell no. And that's a crime scene.
As for what is to be gained, there is plenty. Truth is always important to me, no matter the emotional cost. For those involved in praying for cancer patients, wouldn't you like to know if you were being had? People lie to get an emotional response all the time. There are several medical conditions in which people do this in varying ways. And trust me, it sucks to find out you were worried for no reason. I'd rather know I was praying for someone that needed it, instead of someone that just wants attention.
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Sara probably does have cancer. It's on the internet so it must be true. But is Skythelimit really Sara? Or is it all a ruse? Did Sky take a verifiable fact and adopt that persona, and then add more details that she thought made sense? We'll probably never know. But to the doubters and the believers, do what you think is best, do what makes you happy. But don't do it for anyone but yourself. If you need someone to pray for, there's 6 billion people to choose from, and I'm sure all of them could use your well wishes. 👋
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But aub, even if you were praying for someone who was a sham, thats not nearly as painful to deal with as it is if jx is wrong and a part of a terminally ill persons support structure turned on you.
Even if you disagree with the balance of pain, you must admit that what you are describing is a similar but very different situation. There could be some positive derived if what jx was empirically shown to be true, because a definitive con would be exposed. In reality, this did not occur so all that has actually occured was a persons support structure was destroyed and no one is any closer to knowing if she deserved it. Thus in the actual situation, benefit was not derived, but pain and suffering was.
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Again? So what has the original poster gained from any of this? What did he hope to accomplish?
All that has really been accomplished by all this is a lot of people turning against each other and turning against a sick woman who has asked for nothing but prayers and friendship. Sara or Jaimie and Sherry have never asked for a single penny from anyone and even with all that Sara is and has gone through reminded us to pray for Fatal Beauty and her daughter.
I find what the original poster has done here very despicable and disturbing. And I also am disappointed in the way many have responded and reacted. Yes I know it's a war game but the Turf Wars community has always been supportive and caring but that has gone all down hill in the last few days.
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fachan wrote:
👍👊✊Again? So what has the original poster gained from any of this? What did he hope to accomplish?
All that has really been accomplished by all this is a lot of people turning against each other and turning against a sick woman who has asked for nothing but prayers and friendship. Sara or Jaimie and Sherry have never asked for a single penny from anyone and even with all that Sara is and has gone through reminded us to pray for Fatal Beauty and her daughter.
I find what the original poster has done here very despicable and disturbing. And I also am disappointed in the way many have responded and reacted. Yes I know it's a war game but the Turf Wars community has always been supportive and caring but that has gone all down hill in the last few days.
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She didn't lose any support structure, those who care still care. Those who don't do not make a difference. I'm still on the fence, seems far fetched to me but I'm not involved.
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Ʀɑƶɵʀвɑʗĸ🔥💢👣 wrote:
YOU wrote:
Mmmm....😌 feelin the burn😝Haha!! Here he tries again... Now it'll be a 6 page long thread and he'll not post again and I'll end up with a income of 50k and 3 people will quit😜 anyway, maybe I'll restrain myself this time... Maybe not 😠
Who quotes themselves?? Hahaha I found this funny
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fachan wrote:
Plain and simple, if I found out that Sara et al were lying, I'd be pissed. As it stands right now, I have doubts about the entire story from beginning to end. And the blind faith that some have shown to sky/Sara/Jaime/sherry is very disturbing.Again? So what has the original poster gained from any of this? What did he hope to accomplish?
All that has really been accomplished by all this is a lot of people turning against each other and turning against a sick woman who has asked for nothing but prayers and friendship. Sara or Jaimie and Sherry have never asked for a single penny from anyone and even with all that Sara is and has gone through reminded us to pray for Fatal Beauty and her daughter.
✂✂.
Drink the kool-aid already. -
Z👿 wrote:
You have posed some good points. As I said, I was angry and I reacted to what was clearly a lie. I have also said that information I have found i.e. evidence, is all deniable. I admit, without being there holding a camera, there is no hard evidence... but thankfully there is common sense.So what about what most of us were saying. If youre right, the community gains nothing. If you are wrong, you caused a lot of stress to a terminally ill person. You accepted this risk and gambled based on circumstantial speculation, and you did so in the most public way possible. For that, you are classless
As for the risk, the risk all started from when someone decides to post about their problem publicly to a community of hundreds (possibly thousands) most, if not all of which they are not going to meet. Once their issues become public, so does the reaction (favourable and non-favourable).
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