Arming you mob - question for vets 🌀
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Hello all.
I was caught up in an interesting debate the other day on arming mobs for smaller players, say in and around 5k.
The other player insisted that ak47 is completely useless weapon. And that Under no circumstance should a player ever buy them.
My position was that aks are an excellent option to get an edge of players in and around the same size as u if they are going no upkeep. For 100 upkeep aks give u a fairly usefull increase in attack and defense of grenades.
I'd love to hear the thoughts of some of the vets out there. Thanks again.
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*over grenades - sorry
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I mobbed up so fast that I couldn't afford lapuas or shoes. People around me were getting nervous bc I was coming up so fast so they were attacking me daily. I used ak's and cleavers to defend myself until the mobbing slowed down and money went up. I think they're a great option for newer players if they have enemies. I'm not a vet though.
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AK-47's are the best for new players. Lowest upkeep and cost the least. Like Funky Buffalo, I mobbed up pretty quickly. My influence couldn't keep up. So if you are lIke me and your influence is lower than mob, I think AK's, Body Armor, and Meat cleavers are the way to go.
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My bro has 3900 mob and I still can't beat him because he's armed ever single one with a lapua rifle😒
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Funky Buffalo wrote:
This happened to me aswell. I couldn't afford to fully arm my mob till pretty recently.I mobbed up so fast that I couldn't afford lapuas or shoes. People around me were getting nervous bc I was coming up so fast so they were attacking me daily. I used ak's and cleavers to defend myself until the mobbing slowed down and money went up. I think they're a great option for newer players if they have enemies. I'm not a vet though.
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☆ A〽NESTY ☆ wrote:
My experience, as well. First grenades/galesi's, then ak's when I could afford them, then up to miniguns, and now getting lupaus.Funky Buffalo wrote:
This happened to me aswell. I couldn't afford to fully arm my mob till pretty recently.I mobbed up so fast that I couldn't afford lapuas or shoes. People around me were getting nervous bc I was coming up so fast so they were attacking me daily. I used ak's and cleavers to defend myself until the mobbing slowed down and money went up. I think they're a great option for newer players if they have enemies. I'm not a vet though.
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This was the approach I took as well. The other players argument was to skip and go straight to minis. However minis are 2.5 the cost of aks. The incremental increase in attack of def from aks to minis is more expensive (250 upkeep) then the incremental increase from nades to aks (100 upkeep). -
petinc wrote:
I went grenades/galseis to aks back to grenade/gelseis untill I had enough money to buy all my luapas and shoes and armour in one lump☆ A〽NESTY ☆ wrote:
My experience, as well. First grenades/galesi's, then ak's when I could afford them, then up to miniguns, and now getting lupaus.Funky Buffalo wrote:
This happened to me aswell. I couldn't afford to fully arm my mob till pretty recently.I mobbed up so fast that I couldn't afford lapuas or shoes. People around me were getting nervous bc I was coming up so fast so they were attacking me daily. I used ak's and cleavers to defend myself until the mobbing slowed down and money went up. I think they're a great option for newer players if they have enemies. I'm not a vet though.
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I'm going straight to minis instead of ak's and it's not working out. I highly suggest you go to aks then minis.
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LegionOfTime wrote:
Yea. I could see that considering minis are 2.5 times the upkeep.I'm going straight to minis instead of ak's and it's not working out. I highly suggest you go to aks then minis.
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I "grew up" in a different world than you guys. I started with grenades & vests. Galesi's didn't exist, not did melee weapons. I didn't need anything else until around 6k (I think). That's when I bought minis & had those for a long time. I didn't switch to Lapuas until I had no choice.
The only time I saw people use AK's, was when they had money issues after a war & sold their main upkeep weapons to improve their income. That's how I still think of them, as kind of a last option weapon. That doesn't mean they are; that's just how I'm used to thinking of them.
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AK's are a good low upkeep weapon for newer players.
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Neva used ak's tbh, always had lupas :)
I did use grandes wen I was on break but that's cause a wanted income. -
Aks all the way if your upkeep isn't high (500k a hour?)
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I'm not a vet but I have bugged a lot of them and gotten some good advice.
First, you can control who you attack, but not who attacks you, so focus on defense.
Second, who is attacking you? I lose turf to 35-60k mobs, I can't buy enough of anything to stop them. Remember that your weapons and armor are probably only going to be the deciding factor with people +/- 30% your size.
So focusing on D, what do you get for your money? You get 9 per mob member for 0 upkeep with Galesi's
12 with AK's is $8.30 per point per hour, by far the best bargain
16 for minis is $15.60 per hour
17 for chalupa rifles is $20.50 per hour
For reference in the other classes of upkeep items their D per hour is $15 for shoes and $13.33 for armor.
You can do the same math for the offensive points for each item.
Bottom line is AK's are the best value for defense per hour. But you're paying for 3 more points than you get for 0 with Galesi's. If your threats / targets are about your size, you need to arm accordingly.
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I would say never get ak's. When your smaller, spend money on defensive armor and shoes. Grenades are the way to go until you have enough income to support lapuas. I climbed in mob quickly like the others but never spent upkeep on attack until I had a bunch of turf and could afford lapuas
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Galesi/Grenades + Shoes, is better than Ak47, upkeep is less for same att/def
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Okay, reading these statements let me ask...
What's a chalupa rifle??
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He's a guy who lives in the next street to me. He'll lend you his gun, but gets really pissed if you don't clean it properly when giving it back. Ps I originally went grenades, akas, minis then a
Laps when I first started. No melees back then. Plenty of name changes n resets too! 😃 -
🔰ℬཞüęℵǿཞ🔰 wrote:
😹😹😹I thought the same thing!Okay, reading these statements let me ask...
What's a chalupa rifle??
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Miniguns. My entire mob uses miniguns and I still have income... I don't know how it works either.
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TheForumGuy wrote:
You have 300 miniguns wtf are you talking about?Miniguns. My entire mob uses miniguns and I still have income... I don't know how it works either.
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Lol.
I guess we have heard two different opinions. Some say skip them they are useless. Others say they are the most cost efficient weapon in the game. I think it proves there is no universal answer.
Thanks to those that have taken the time to reply.
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fallacy wrote:
They are useless if you use shoes, grenade/galesis and armor. Gives same stats for 40$ less upkeep but the shoes cost 3X the price o an AK. Not all noobs can afford that.Lol.
I guess we have heard two different opinions. Some say skip them they are useless. Others say they are the most cost efficient weapon in the game. I think it proves there is no universal answer.
Thanks to those that have taken the time to reply.
My 2 cents
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