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It's the 68th anniversary

• 〓ROAD KILL〓 Jun 7, 2012

  WEEDFARMER wrote:

  Being a retired military vet, I thank all that served that war. It saved many from the opression of hitler led Germany.
  

  Thank you for your service!!!
• 🔰Superyan🔰 Jun 7, 2012

  This sort of thing upsets and just makes me frustrated.

  I don't understand why we practically worship murderers. People going out and killing someone's son, just because they were ordered too.
  I mean, in Hitlers Army, a lot of them were conscripts. Most of them probably didn't even want to join and we just murdered them in cold blood. All the sons that died just because they were forced by hitler to go out to war.
  They were worshipped as heroes too. Going out and killing some child isn't worth celebrating. It something we should be ashamed off.

  My opinion thrown into this thread.
• Kᴈᵞᶊᴈᴿ Jun 7, 2012

  War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse. When a people are used as mere human instruments for firing cannon or thrusting bayonets, in the service and for the selfish purposes of a master, such war degrades a people. A war to protect other human beings against tyrannical injustice; a war to give victory to their own ideas of right and good, and which is their own war, carried on for an honest purpose by their free choice, — is often the means of their regeneration. (continued below)
• Kᴈᵞᶊᴈᴿ Jun 7, 2012

  A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. As long as justice and injustice have not terminated their ever-renewing fight for ascendancy in the affairs of mankind, human beings must be willing, when need is, to do battle for the one against the other. John Stuart Mill

  Read carefully Superyan. You are that "ugliest of things"
• 🔰Superyan🔰 Jun 7, 2012

  Killing innocent people is not something to celebrate.

  I understand that the war was needed to take down Hitler. But we don't have to worship and celebrate all the deaths of people who were forced into the army and following orders.

  I may be ugly. But I see the truth that those awful nazis we killed, the people we despise and celebrate the death of, were innocent and had no choice but do what they were ordered to do.
• ✯RagnarLoðbrók✯ Jun 7, 2012

  Superyan, many of the German soldiers were enthusiastic Nazis, not conscripts.  Many were also conscripts. Either way they had a choice.  There is always a choice. 

  Many of the allied soldiers were conscripted. Many also volunteered. 

  "Let not any one pacify his conscience by the delusion that he can do no harm if he takes no part, and forms no opinion. Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
  - John Stuart Mill

  I don't worship the soldiers who fought and died for my freedom.  However, I honor their bravery, and sacrifice.  

  Go be an ingrate somewhere else.  I suggest rural Peshawar, Pakistan. Try to keep your head.

   
• Kᴈᵞᶊᴈᴿ Jun 7, 2012

  I think that Superyan is attempting to become super troll #1. I doubt anyone could be so dense as to why we honor days like D Day. If we wanted to celebrate death we would have a national holiday one August 6th and 9th. Those days aren't celebrated or mentioned in the manner of D-Day because we don't honor the fact we killed 70,000+ (that's just from "Little Boy") in a matter of seconds. We aren't honoring "murderers". We are honoring the fact that people did what had to be done to prevent Hitler and his army from overrunning your country. Go talk to a few people who survived the bombing of London and tell them how you feel SY. Then take Walrus Breath's advice.
• 🔰Superyan🔰 Jun 7, 2012

  I'm attempting to become a troll. Just expressing how I feel about war and how we seem to
  glorify killing people.
  I just think its giving everyone the wrong idea and that we shouldn't just celebrate that we killed loads of people.

  I am grateful for them risking their lives for my freedom. But I'm not grateful for the deaths of innocents.
• 🔰Superyan🔰 Jun 7, 2012

  YOU wrote:

  I'm attempting to become a troll. Just expressing how I feel about war and how we seem to
  glorify killing people.
  I just think its giving everyone the wrong idea and that we shouldn't just celebrate that we killed loads of people.

  I am grateful for them risking their lives for my freedom. But I'm not grateful for the deaths of innocents.
  

  I'm not attempting to become a troll***
  Darn my writing.
• Kᴈᵞᶊᴈᴿ Jun 7, 2012

  No one is innocent beyond childhood. Quit with the delusion that adults are innocent. Hitlers war machine was taking EUROPE! Shit had to get done. Without people fighting back he would have achieved his goal of the Arian race. And remembrance of D-Day is a remembrance of the sacrifices that gave us freedom. We understand you are a objector to violence. Got it. Few questions before you go though. Do you think Gas Day is glorifying violence? Shouldn't we forget gasface because he was capping for no reason (each attack on another persons turf, while virtual, does "smash" them and their turf) instead of glorifying him? If you don't like war why are you playing TURF WARS?

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