Submarine accident cover-up
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nick wrote:
Maybe. We could use those om oceans or lakes for stealth attacks on turf... *thinking*... Yeah, that would be a good strategy.Must have been one of those infamous mafia submarines...
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nick wrote:
I'll go ask my brother Tony down at the dock if they know anything about it. 👌Must have been one of those infamous mafia submarines...
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Aubergine wrote:
It's too bad I raised 3 points and you can't acknowledge one! Fail..Ed Shooter wrote:
It's too bad you're trying to argue about subs with a guy who was on a sub for several years. I was, too. Everything he said is correct. Also, this might be because I was on a sub, but I thought everyone knew that.I can't be bothered to explain why submarines do not
Submarines do routinely operate in waters where if they were found, it could be considered an act of war. They are designed to do this. They are designed to spy on enemy countries. That's why they were designed to go under water and be undetectable, not so they could follow everyone else's rules.
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Ed Shooter wrote:
Ed, your points were invalid. I take the word of the guy from the sub, rather than the troll who's under the wrong bridgeAubergine wrote:
It's too bad I raised 3 points and you can't acknowledge one! Fail..Ed Shooter wrote:
It's too bad you're trying to argue about subs with a guy who was on a sub for several years. I was, too. Everything he said is correct. Also, this might be because I was on a sub, but I thought everyone knew that.I can't be bothered to explain why submarines do not
Submarines do routinely operate in waters where if they were found, it could be considered an act of war. They are designed to do this. They are designed to spy on enemy countries. That's why they were designed to go under water and be undetectable, not so they could follow everyone else's rules.
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Ed Shooter wrote:
Please. Enlighten us. What were the 3 points again? It was hard to pick them out from all that illiteracy.Aubergine wrote:
It's too bad I raised 3 points and you can't acknowledge one! Fail..Ed Shooter wrote:
It's too bad you're trying to argue about subs with a guy who was on a sub for several years. I was, too. Everything he said is correct. Also, this might be because I was on a sub, but I thought everyone knew that.I can't be bothered to explain why submarines do not
Submarines do routinely operate in waters where if they were found, it could be considered an act of war. They are designed to do this. They are designed to spy on enemy countries. That's why they were designed to go under water and be undetectable, not so they could follow everyone else's rules.
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They were in my previous post... On a 2 page thread... If you really can't find them... Jeez... That's why they kept you tards under water!!! Genuine LOL
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Maybe I should have numbered them! You could do it on one web fingered paw!!!
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I say again:
"Submarines generally do not operate submerged in shallow water. The average depth in there is a paltry 6 fathoms, and it's fairly flat. 36 feet. The bottom of a LA class fast attack boat is about 31 feet down when surfaced. Periscope depth, (minimum submerged depth, and difficult to maintain), is about 95 feet from keel to surface.
I'm afraid this just isn't likely."Was that one of your points? You musta missed that one. Not your fault. You are probably drunk.
What was the other one? Friendly ports.. Yes, we used them. Did I say we didn't? Even the OP said we used it. It's not illegal, true.
And I believe we covered clandestine operations.
Any other questions?
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Being what I was in the US military.....
I love watching people talk about shit they have no fucking clue about.
But please don't allow me to interrupt.Continue making an ass out of yourself.
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Btw, who remember the movie "Down Pariscope"?
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🌆💀🔫GTR36🔫💀🌆 wrote:
Awesome.Btw, who remember the movie "Down Pariscope"?
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
I'll help you with #1... Why do submarines not operate submerged in shallow water... Maybe you've been drinking.... It's not fucking rocket science! You're on your own for the other two... Just like your sex life!!! Enjoy... Eugh.. :shudders:I say again:
"Submarines generally do not operate submerged in and difficult to maintain), is about 95 feet from keel to surface.
I'm afraid this just isn't likely."Was that one of your points? You musta missed that one. Not your fault. You are probably drunk.
What was the other one? Friendly ports.. Yes, we used them. Did I say we didn't? Even the OP said we used it. It's not illegal, true.
And I believe we covered clandestine operations.
Any other questions?
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Holy shit, it's like the hangover.
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Ed Shooter wrote: I'll help you with #1... Why do submarines not operate submerged in shallow water... Maybe you've been drinking.... It's not fucking rocket science! You're on your own for the other two... Just like your sex life!!! Enjoy... Eugh.. :shudders:
So, you are just trolling then? Or are you really too stupid to read what I wrote in direct response to your 3 point drivel? Should I number my responses? -
Great thread
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Ed Shooter wrote: I'll help you with #1... Why do submarines not operate submerged in shallow water... Maybe you've been drinking.... It's not fucking rocket science! You're on your own for the other two... Just like your sex life!!! Enjoy... Eugh.. :shudders:
So, you are just trolling then? Or are you really too stupid to read what I wrote in direct response to your 3 point drivel? Should I number my responses?Not trolling... Exposing clowns is my business...
A minute ago you didn't know what my 3 points were - make your mind up!
What colour is the roof at the boathouse at Hereford?
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Take this from a guy who has been on subs for the last 11 years, and I will continue as long as the United States Navy allows me. I am only able to be stationed on SSBN's and coincidentally that is the only thing that was stationed there. If you have ever read any book about submarines you would know that brown note is correct...except the LA class is 32' in diameter, however from keel to sail it is around 50'. Now that is an SSN. SSBN's are much bigger, it was a different class submarine back then, but my boat now when surfaced drafts 36-37 feet. These boats then drafted around 33-34'. To submerge in shollow water with something that is over 500' long and around 60' from keel to sail do the math...you need more than 96' it's not like the thing dives on an even plane, hydrodynamics doesn't allow for that.
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Shallow water operations are done in secret, but c'mon man, this is very unlikely and to qualify onboard a sub, you have to learn about all boats that have had accidents and why, foreign or national. I have never heard of this.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
As a submariner, I support this messageUh, you know... Lots of people died in and around the submarine service during the cold war. Submarines are designed to do illegal things, and did them constantly. They also do not end missions due to a few deaths, even of their own men.
It was an accident.
Not just an accident... But it was collateral damage from a cold war.
The submarine services always act as if they are operating in war-time.
Submarines are dangerous business for all sides involved.
I'm sorry for the lives of the fishing crew. But it certainly could not be helped if it was in fact a submarine involved.
We had a base in Scotland at the time. Friennnnnds!
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Ed Shooter wrote:
Should I know this? In the early 90's we closed all foreign ports due to terrorism concerns. And I was in the Pacific.Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Ed Shooter wrote: I'll help you with #1... Why do submarines not operate submerged in shallow water... Maybe you've been drinking.... It's not fucking rocket science! You're on your own for the other two... Just like your sex life!!! Enjoy... Eugh.. :shudders:
So, you are just trolling then? Or are you really too stupid to read what I wrote in direct response to your 3 point drivel? Should I number my responses?Not trolling... Exposing clowns is my business...
A minute ago you didn't know what my 3 points were - make your mind up!
What colour is the roof at the boathouse at Hereford?
Better find a real clown to pick on.
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knuckles1982 wrote:
I wouldn't know. I was 3kts to nowhere. :)Shallow water operations are done in secret, but c'mon man, this is very unlikely and to qualify onboard a sub, you have to learn about all boats that have had accidents and why, foreign or national. I have never heard of this.
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So many submariners here!
I was on the Alabama in the 90's. We never went anywhere. Battle E, Couple of stops in HI, and San Diego. Some testing. Otherwise, big circles. Last boat to get a D5 conversion, I think... Long after I was gone. We had one nice long retrofit in there. Dry dock at home. We brought GPS on then. I was the only ET with school for it. I had ET A, ECM/ES C, and Trident Navaids C. Last one through the pipeline before we got Electronic "Operators".
Such a clown.
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nick wrote:
you just pipe down junior.... the mafia has never been "proven" to use submarines.... theoretically.Must have been one of those infamous mafia submarines...
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nick wrote:
If you really want those, go to iMobstersMust have been one of those infamous mafia submarines...
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Didn't you guys hear about the NY mafia trying to buy a submarine from the freshly-collapsed Soviet Union?
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Ive been watching national geographic, and they have/had a series of officers going for captain. During one of the episodes, one of the trainees made a desision to submerge for a fishing boat. He was immidiatly called out for making a bad move.
Later one of the actual commandi g officers said that in such a case, the sub could never submerge because of the fishing nets, and he did refer to an accident that happened a couple of years before. Could it be that he was referring to this actual event?
Im not sure, but the officer that called for submerging got flamed a bit, his reply was that he was not aware of that directive (i think it was the american one that was trying to get the captain status on a brittish ship, or vice versa)But the comparison to the above stated events is so close that it could be this event
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I'm about to read this thread ... But just thought I'd say that YOU is even more confusing than YÒU ... Lol.
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fartex wrote:
Ive been watching national geographic, and they have/had a series of officers going for captain. During one of the episodes, one of the trainees made a desision to submerge for a fishing boat. He was immidiatly called out for making a bad move.
Later one of the actual commandi g officers said that in such a case, the sub could never submerge because of the fishing nets, and he did refer to an accident ...Maybe for little subs it's different, but for the big ones:
It's not like a car. Opening the MBTs is a very loud, flashy event. It takes time to submerge. It's kind of a big deal. Also, the "fishing boat" would be identified miles away.... What are the odds the sub would hit the nets? Sounds like 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. "Go under it!"
It might be avoided, but why submerge and head right for it?
Seems odd.
Anyway, there are numerous accidents, but no way it happened in 36 feet of water.
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I saw a training video of a tug pulling a sub.. The tug got pulled back, flooded, and sank.
Subs are heavy.
Voice in the background: "Well... There goes the mail."
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YOU wrote:
USS GA, wink, wink.. :)I saw a training video of a tug pulling a sub.. The tug got pulled back, flooded, and sank.
Subs are heavy.
Voice in the background: "Well... There goes the mail."
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