US House Passes CISPA!! 248 to 168
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According to the Electronic Frontier Foundation, "The bill purports to allow companies and the federal government to share information to prevent or defend from cyberattacks. However, the bill expressly authorizes monitoring of our private communications, and is written so broadly that it allows companies to hand over large swaths of personal information to the government with no judicial oversight... creating a loophole in all existing privacy laws."
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Can I take a poop in peace?
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Fuck.
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I love how this gets passed without publicity. Well, I'm gonna go download Tor
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No one in the US has privacy anymore.
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I really wish I knew why, but some how thinking the government is watching me makes me feel secure.
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I have nothing to hide. I don't give a single shit what info the gov has on me. I'm a tax paying, law abiding citizen, and these hacktivist groups get on my nerves.
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Tonytlj add:TLJ wrote:
👍👍🇺🇸 well said.I have nothing to hide. I don't give a single shit what info the gov has on me. I'm a tax paying, law abiding citizen, and these hacktivist groups get on my nerves.
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Not a new concept my friend. They've been able to listen/gather info from electronics for years. It is what it is though.
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I, for one, welcome our new electronic overlords.
*races to hide suspect adult browsing history
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Shit. No more downloading Justin Bieber...
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I refuse to accept the "If they are not doing anything wrong why should people care if they are being watched" argument. My privacy is still being invaded by a government who has no right to monitor it without just cause. Right now an overpaid glorified security guard could be watching what you search and what you post. It's essentially breaking down your door and peering into your lives without a cause. Do you want the government to know you googled anonymous? Or better yet should a woman who looked up an abortion have the right to do that in a private environment? I doubt we will be granted the information of which companies are complying with the government.
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Using Facebook and google alone, with a handy dandy algorithm, the government could profile you in a short amount of time and "assess" your Potential to be a cyber-terrorist. This would be completely legal under the above law, and completely illegal without your allowance or warrant previously. It doesn't take much creativity to exploit this law for a government mandated invasion of privacy by a gov. Employee with a grudge against you.
I'm not a hacktivist, I'm just a concerned citizen.
Government is essentially good however government is made up of people who are essentially bad. -
Tonytlj add:TLJ wrote:
Most of us have nothing to hide, but thats not the point. Cispa basically puts into place framework to remove the. 4th ammendment from cyberspace. It has nothing to do with hacktivism, it has to do with upgolding the constitution. ' those that would trade liberty for security deserve neither'I have nothing to hide. I don't give a single shit what info the gov has on me. I'm a tax paying, law abiding citizen, and these hacktivist groups get on my nerves.
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Z👿 wrote:
👍 thank you for saying thatTonytlj add:TLJ wrote:
Most of us have nothing to hide, but thats not the point. Cispa basically puts into place framework to remove the. 4th ammendment from cyberspace. It has nothing to do with hacktivism, it has to do with upgolding the constitution. ' those that would trade liberty for security deserve neither'I have nothing to hide. I don't give a single shit what info the gov has on me. I'm a tax paying, law abiding citizen, and these hacktivist groups get on my nerves.
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Personally, this crap with SOPA, PIPA, and CISPA is pathetic. Pathetic. One word, just pathetic. They are obviously using tge children issue as an accuse. I might not have an issue with this if there was no dang large loopholes in it. I only wonder what the world will be like for me in 50 years. Just wonderful. And yes, this does go against the constitution it seems.
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The key term is "reasonable expectation of privacy."
If you think your google searches and Facebook activity is private, I have news for you: That's unreasonable.
If you want real privacy on the Internet there are ways to do it.
If you just want to be lazy and yell what you want from your pharmacist from across the street, you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
The things you spew out on DARPANET are not private unless you get your butt in front of the HIPPA line and whisper to the person behind the counter that you are there to pick up your ass cream.
It's as simple as that. You won't find Jason Bourne sitting in his apartment Googling his targets in Madrid, because he's not a (fictional) idiot.
The Internet is not private unless you take extraordinary measures to make it so. Never was, never will be.
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Warhero0014 wrote:
👆thisTonytlj add:TLJ wrote:
👍👍🇺🇸 well said.I have nothing to hide. I don't give a single shit what info the gov has on me. I'm a tax paying, law abiding citizen, and these hacktivist groups get on my nerves.
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Warhero0014 wrote:
Amen, nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide.Tonytlj add:TLJ wrote:
👍👍🇺🇸 well said.I have nothing to hide. I don't give a single shit what info the gov has on me. I'm a tax paying, law abiding citizen, and these hacktivist groups get on my nerves.
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Question for all constitution preachers. Do any of our constitutional rights apply on Chinese or Russian soil? In Turkish prisons? The Internet is not a US based entity so why would you believe the US laws would adequately apply?
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MoparBoy wrote:
It's not about fear, it's about losing fundamental freedoms. Look at China, that's pretty much what this bill is working towards.Warhero0014 wrote:
Amen, nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide.Tonytlj add:TLJ wrote:
👍👍🇺🇸 well said.I have nothing to hide. I don't give a single shit what info the gov has on me. I'm a tax paying, law abiding citizen, and these hacktivist groups get on my nerves.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
TruthThe key term is "reasonable expectation of privacy."
If you think your google searches and Facebook activity is private, I have news for you: That's unreasonable.
If you want real privacy on the Internet there are ways to do it.
If you just want to be lazy and yell what you want from your pharmacist from across the street, you don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy.
The things you spew out on DARPANET are not private unless you get your butt in front of the HIPPA line and whisper to the person behind the counter that you are there to pick up your ass cream.
It's as simple as that. You won't find Jason Bourne sitting in his apartment Googling his targets in Madrid, because he's not a (fictional) idiot.
The Internet is not private unless you take extraordinary measures to make it so. Never was, never will be.
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"A people who would give up privacy for security deserves neither."
Benjamin Franklin.
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Mackmech(addKM) wrote:
"Eyes wide shut parties in France and grave robbing for personal experimentation are some of my hobbies.". -Benjamin Franklin"A people who would give up privacy for security deserves neither."
Benjamin Franklin.
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MoparBoy wrote:
The Internet IS a US based entity, and the constitution applies to citizens and non-citizens on and off of US soil.Question for all constitution preachers. Do any of our constitutional rights apply on Chinese or Russian soil? In Turkish prisons? The Internet is not a US based entity so why would you believe the US laws would adequately apply?
But that's not the issue.
Fundamentally, the constitution is the document that defines how the US federal government behaves.
It could say that Chinese Nationals in Hong Kong have a right to Internet privacy, and the federal government would have to respect it if it were there.
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And then the cyber revolution begins.
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