Pre-marital sex
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Amish Hitman wrote:
I'm 15, take a guess.So you aren't married. Are you a virgin?
And you didn't respond to my other point.go back and read the original pyramid I'm talking about and you'll probably see what I'm talking about. -
Yes he was talking about the first time with your bride to be and at 15 you have no clue. No offense but you're still a kid.
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Carpenter wrote:
You should print out this conversation, hide it in the bottom of your sock drawer, and revisit it in ten years. So if your views have changed.Amish Hitman wrote:
I'm 15, take a guess.So you aren't married. Are you a virgin?
And you didn't respond to my other point.go back and read the original pyramid I'm talking about and you'll probably see what I'm talking about. -
Amish Hitman wrote:
Sigh.Yes he was talking about the first time with your bride to be and at 15 you have no clue. No offense but you're still a kid.
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Ryan you are bud. You both can sigh all you want but you have absolutely zero life experience about this and are making assumptions.
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Ojibwe wrote:
I already have 😜Carpenter wrote:
You should print out this conversation, hide it in the bottom of your sock drawer, and revisit it in ten years. So if your views have changed.Amish Hitman wrote:
I'm 15, take a guess.So you aren't married. Are you a virgin?
And you didn't respond to my other point.go back and read the original pyramid I'm talking about and you'll probably see what I'm talking about.
And Amish, I see where ou are coming from now. I saw it as having sex for the first time, you saw it as with your bride to be. -
Amish Hitman wrote:
Nope. A lot of people in my year have already had sex, multiple times. Hell! One kid is getting married next week.Ryan you are bud. You both can sigh all you want but you have absolutely zero life experience about this and are making assumptions.
I think we can have around as much experience as you. -
I was married at 18 and divorced at 29, producing two wonderful kids and now 4 wonderful grand kids. Since then, I have been in two additional long-term relationships, and I was no less committed without the marriage paperwork. I can safely say that FOR ME, marraige in the future is highly unlikely, but I do not regret my marraige. Withthat life experience and within the context of the sex discussion, I believe the quality of the relationship is important, not one's marital status. And I believe each person has to figure out where they stand on these issues; one size does not fit all.
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He said the love of his life Carpenter, you need to read not Amish! Just because they are not the love of his life does nor mean he doesn't love them.
And so what, why should anyone shackle themselves to your narrow view on how to live life? I don't believe in "your" god. I don't believe I have to follow the rules in "your" book.
I follow the laws of my country, and what I do is legal.
Obviously for a lot of the virgins here, the I don't want to use others, I want to save myself for the one. Makes me think you only see sex for your benefit. How am I using the girl if I bring her pleasure? If it is mutual no one is being used. Maybe those times the girl had orgasms and I didn't meant I was being used.
I think it is one thing to say this is how I live my life. But a totally different one to say how dare you not live the way I want you too. This is where I see the hypocrisy of all religions.
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Oh so you are saying because kids your age but not you are having sex is providing you with experience. Are you in the corner while this is happening or something? Seriously this is like saying there are a lot of pilots my age so that means I have experience and can fly a plane.
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Amish Hitman wrote:
I'm saying that we have capability to have and even get married if we wish. By the fact we have resisted gives us experience.Oh so you are saying because kids your age but not you are having sex is providing you with experience. Are you in the corner while this is happening or something? Seriously this is like saying there are a lot of pilots my age so that means I have experience and can fly a plane.
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Hyena wrote:
Have I said anything about my God, anything about my Bible or anything about whether it is right to have sex before marriage? No. You need to read a little, not me.He said the love of his life Carpenter, you need to read not Amish! Just because they are not the love of his life does nor mean he doesn't love them.
And so what, why should anyone shackle themselves to your narrow view on how to live life? I don't believe in "your" god. I don't believe I have to follow the rules in "your" book.
I follow the laws of my country, and what I do is legal.
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I think it is one thing to say this is how I live my life. But a totally different one to say how dare you not live the way I want you too. This is where I see the hypocrisy of all religions.
And like I said, I thought he meant first time. Whether it was "the love of your life" or not didn't really matter in my argument, it was first time or post-first time. -
Can I ask a favor? Can we all just shut the f*** up and move on??? I've learned something in other debate threads: no matter how well you place your argument, how correct you may or may not be, you can't change other people!! Trying to prove that you are right and they are wrong just makes you look like an idiot. Where's VWbus when you need him with the quote from nick a few years back saying how no one will care if you do something along the lines of sex, drugs, or alcohol? Can't we listen to his plea for none of this?
Please. Kay, rant over…
And Amish, I may be young, but please don't quote me and say I have little life experience… I have gone through a number if things that have changed me…
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Superyan wrote:
Who here said that a 15 yr old doesn't have the capability to experience sex or marriage? Not I. My points were specific to the people here in this thread that have no experience in the matter yet try to preach to us adults that have been there done that.Amish Hitman wrote:
I'm saying that we have capability to have and even get married if we wish. By the fact we have resisted gives us experience.Oh so you are saying because kids your age but not you are having sex is providing you with experience. Are you in the corner while this is happening or something? Seriously this is like saying there are a lot of pilots my age so that means I have experience and can fly a plane.
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Amish Hitman wrote:
Superyan wrote:
Who here said that a 15 yr old doesn't have the capability to experience sex or marriage? Not I. My points were specific to the people here in this thread that have no experience in the matter yet try to preach to us adults that have been there done that.Amish Hitman wrote:
I'm saying that we have capability to have and even get married if we wish. By the fact we have resisted gives us experience.Are you in the corner while this is happening or something? Seriously this is like saying there are a lot of pilots my age so that means I have experience and can fly a plane.
I don't think either of us (I reckon you are talking about Ryan and me) started the preaching. I simply said something non biased and you started going off. -
Amish Hitman wrote:
I did have a girlfriend of 6 months. She offered herself to me on two seperate occasions. I refused both times.Superyan wrote:
Who here said that a 15 yr old doesn't have the capability to experience sex or marriage? Not I. My points were specific to the people here in this thread that have no experience in the matter yet try to preach to us adults that have been there done that.Amish Hitman wrote:
I'm saying that we have capability to have and even get married if we wish. By the fact we have resisted gives us experience..
I class this as experience seen as I am actually holding my view of saving sex till marriage.
Evenutally, I managed to convince myself she hated me and insulted me behind my back. So I broke up with her.
My mind is fantastic at tearing itself apart. -
My mind is also fab at going off topic and giving out too much detail.
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Superyan wrote:
I've have to say, when it comes to personal torment, you remind me of myself.Amish Hitman wrote:
Superyan wrote:
Who here said that a 15 yr old doesn't have the capability to experience sex or marriage? Not I. My points were specific to the people here in this thread that have no experience in the matter yet try to preach to us adults that have been there done that.Amish Hitman wrote:
I'm saying that we have capability to have and even get married if we wish. By the fact we have resisted gives us experience..
My mind is fantastic at tearing itself apart.
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I'm not going off. Lol I'm trying trying to point out that you guys have no experience with this. You are still young and that isn't an insult. Until you go through life and lets say get married as a virgin can you truly say wether or not it was the right thing etc. If a person that waited till marriage came and posted there opinion in this thread it would carry weight because they experienced it. Does that make sense?
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Amish Hitman wrote:
Yes, but considering I haven't said anything about whether or not it is right, it doesn't apply to me. Except that I'm young.I'm not going off. Lol I'm trying trying to point out that you guys have no experience with this. You are still young and that isn't an insult. Until you go through life and lets say get married as a virgin can you truly say wether or not it was the right thing etc. If a person that waited till marriage came and posted there opinion in this thread it would carry weight because they experienced it. Does that make sense?
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Did you not say one needs to wait till marriage?
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Amish Hitman wrote:
Nope. I haven't said anything about premarital sex.Did you not say one needs to wait till marriage?
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Holy shit guys! Just do whatever the fuck you want whenever the fuck you want to! I don't give a shit if people have sex before or after marriage. Make a personal choice, don't try to make other people make the same choice!
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Carpenter wrote:
I like you Carpenter, I really do. But Amish didn't "go off" at all. If anything his posts are always calm and well thought out. And you and Ryan really don't know what you're talking about unless you have the life experiences to back it up. Period. You don't know til you do it. It's like before I had a child. I thought I could kinda imagine what it would be like. I was wrong. You never know til you actually go through those things and experience them. Presuming that you know is foolish and ignorant. And you and Ryan come across as judgemental in your posts tbh. If you don't have actual experience in the area of discussion, you have no argument.Amish Hitman wrote:
Superyan wrote:
Who here ✂Amish Hitman wrote:
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Ꮹཞ།ཀཀ wrote:
I wouldn't say i've judged anyone yet. My opinions of people hasn't changed at all from this discussion.Carpenter wrote:
I like you Carpenter, I really do. But Amish didn't "go off" at all. If anything his posts are always calm and well thought out. And you and Ryan really don't know what you're talking about unless you have the life experiences to back it up. Period. You don't know til you do it. It's like before I had a child. I thought I could kinda imagine what nt.Amish Hitman wrote:
Superyan wrote:
Who here ✂Amish Hitman wrote:
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That first sentence made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside 😃. And I see where you're coming from with the judgementalness. I wasn't trying to, but as I was defending my point I did sound really judgemental. I also realize I am not experienced, but I was trying to chip in rationally.
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TheNewfieBullet wrote:
Pretty much what I want to tell these people but with the profanity.Holy shit guys! Just do whatever the fuck you want whenever the fuck you want to! I don't give a shit if people have sex before or after marriage. Make a personal choice, don't try to make other people make the same choice!
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Ryan, I feel you need a lesson on acceptance and humility. Not everything everyone says about you needs to be defended.
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I went to high school in a small, conservative town. Lots of girls wanted to wait til marriage. But people are hard wired to want to have sex, and it influences our decisions. That's the way nature intended, to make sure we procreate. Anyway, almost all of them (only two I can think of didn't) got married right out of high school, to people they barely knew. They weren't in love. They were in lust. A decision influenced by 18 years of pent up iwannabone. And now they're stuck in a marriage. I only personally know a few of them, and they are not happily married couples.
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Just like with anything else, if you're smart about it, then go for it.
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