Nothing: exists or not
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🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
Empty space is still somethingJak957 wrote:
Aren't there empty spaces in atoms?Nothin is an impossibility, there is always something in life to look to, nothing can not possibly exist
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✨₭ƞîǥɧϮ✨ wrote:
Amen. As far as I can tell, nothingness can exist only as a state, or an idea. In which case, it is still something.My initial thoughts are that for something to have a decriptive naming word, it must be something!
However, by very definition of the word 'nothing', can it actually be something. I guess not.
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Coming back to the existence of 'Nothing'. I think nothing does exist as a state rather than an object or item of anything.
Nothing [i.e. a vacuum] might be able to exist: but how can we be absolutely 100% certain that said vacuum truly does contain nothing? New 'somethings' are being discovered regularly: today's vacant space may well be tomorrow's kingdom of micro-microorganisms.
Thumbs up to you, knight. 👍
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Jak957 wrote:
In regards to my previous comment, I feel it necessary to reply to this.🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
Empty space is still somethingJak957 wrote:
Aren't there empty spaces in atoms?Nothin is an impossibility, there is always something in life to look to, nothing can not possibly exist
According to Newton, all action must have an equal and opposite reaction.
If we thing of something as an action, then our equal and opposite action therefore is required to be nothing.Damn I wish I wasn't sick and exhausted: I'm not thinking/arguing with 100% brainfunction.
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Nothing exists out side of the universe, where atoms, energy, air,and time doesn't exist.
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Everything is relative.
Therefore, everything we know is only an idea.
"Nothing" is only a concept, just like everything in our universe. Or minds. -
♠Aⅅⅅ ϮuƦƑ₳♠ wrote:
What??? You mean the opposite of a positive is zero?Jak957 wrote:
In regards to my previous comment, I feel it necessary to reply to this.🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
Empty space is still somethingJak957 wrote:
Aren't there empty spaces in atoms?Nothin is an impossibility, there is always something in life to look to, nothing can not possibly exist
According to Newton, all action must have an equal and opposite reaction.
If we thing of something as an action, then our equal and opposite action therefore is required to be nothing.Damn I wish I wasn't sick and exhausted: I'm not thinking/arguing with 100% brainfunction.
No, I don't think so.
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YOU wrote:
I don't know... I think I forgot something, but I don't know what...Everything is relative.
Therefore, everything we know is only an idea.
"Nothing" is only a concept, just like everything in our universe. Or minds. -
What about outside the universe? If the universe is constantly expanding, it must e expanding into nothing, otherwise what it was expanding into would already be the universe and the inverse would never expand.
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the_turf_lord wrote:
You can't prove this. That was the original requirement. Prove that nothingness exists. Nobody knows that there is, or what the nature of what lies beyond space-time.What about outside the universe? If the universe is constantly expanding, it must e expanding into nothing, otherwise what it was expanding into would already be the universe and the inverse would never expand.
But you can prove that nothing does not exist. Look it up in the dictionary:
noth.ing [nuhth-ing] n.
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3. Something that is non-existant.
...That's pretty definitive.
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The only thing non-existant is a frog headed horse....
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^and im not trollin' . We obviously exist and so does earth, our universe is expanding like an atom expands, really, really, fast. Into what I do not know, onto whence I cannot say, where we go..... Well I really havnt thought that far...
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Nothing does exist, because nothing is a word, and you're seeing it right now! Nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing! See that, it's nothing! Well, nothing is something!
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
Like he said, nothing is something, because it's a word. Now I think nothing is a oxy moron. Like hot ice. Nothing means non existent but it exists. Get it?the_turf_lord wrote:
You can't prove this. That was the original requirement. Prove that nothingness exists. Nobody knows that there is, or what the nature of what lies beyond space-time.What about outside the universe? If the universe is constantly expanding, it must e expanding into nothing, otherwise what it was expanding into would already be the universe and the inverse would never expand.
But you can prove that nothing does not exist. Look it up in the dictionary:
noth.ing [nuhth-ing] n.
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3. Something that is non-existant.
...That's pretty definitive.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
How does the dictionary prove that nothing exists? It's definitions not lessons or explanations.the_turf_lord wrote:
You can't prove this. That was the original requirement. Prove that nothingness exists. Nobody knows that there is, or what the nature of what lies beyond space-time.What about outside the universe? If the universe is constantly expanding, it must e expanding into nothing, otherwise what it was expanding into would already be the universe and the inverse would never expand.
But you can prove that nothing does not exist. Look it up in the dictionary:
noth.ing [nuhth-ing] n.
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3. Something that is non-existant.
...That's pretty definitive.
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the_turf_lord wrote: How does the dictionary prove that nothing exists? It's definitions not lessons or explanations.
The dictionary proves that nothing DOESN'T exist.Since this is just a word game, the dictionary is the most credible reference in this case.
Nothing: the absence of something, non-existence, void..
Nothing does not exist in the semantic, literal, or real worlds.
It's like asking if red things are really blue. No, they aren't. (unless the are moving very fast toward you.)
Nothing is a state of non-existence. Zero. Absence.
The dictionary is the standard for the use of defining these terms. In fact, the dictionary is the ONLY place where "nothing" is something. A word.
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Brown🎵Note😲 wrote:
the_turf_lord wrote: How does the dictionary prove that nothing exists? It's definitions not lessons or explanations.
Nothing is a state of non-existence. Zero. Absence.
The dictionary is the standard for the use of defining these terms. In fact, the dictionary is the ONLY place where "nothing" is something. A word.
A dictionary is a graveyard of words. There one gets dead words out of context.
I read some while back that zero is a place holder, and as such is a sort of value in math.
Just becuase we can't adequately describe things or recreate things doesn't mean that we can't create models or use words in their place. A model of an atom isn't an atom. Perhaps we just haven't come up with an effective model of 'nothingness'.
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^^^ yeah?
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