So...Grandpa argument
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I was just arguing with my grandpa over the new NDAA bill.
Me - against it
Him - for itHe argued that if they detained 20 people, and 18 or those were terrorists, it's worth the sacrifice. I argued that those other innargue would be tortured for the rest of their life for information they don't have.
He said that what are 200,000 lives that the terrorists that were detained could have taken, to 2 lives.
2 lives of innocent people, I added, who got their rights revoked and are detained for the rest of their life.
He thinks that that's the risk we should take to keep terrorists locked away.
I said how would we know these people are terrorists if they were never tried and proven guilty.What are your guys' take on this? Who do you side with? Please excuse me if I ignored some facts, im only 13 and I don't know every law there is haha.
1 more question, can anyone explain to me what the patriot act is?
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Idk but 🇺🇸🇺🇸!!U.S.A.!!🇺🇸🇺🇸
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The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
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My take. It's innocent lives. Plus which, wouldn't it give the government power to detain and ruin anyone who disagreed with them? That's a little scary. Plus which, why should they be sacrificing innocents to do a job they cannot complete themselves? I'm not a follower of politics, so please correct me if I'm wrong...
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YOU wrote:
Also I'm with your grandpa he lived during WWII and other big wars so he knows more than you. Tell him I said hi😃Idk but 🇺🇸🇺🇸!!U.S.A.!!🇺🇸🇺🇸
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Well your grandpa should be ashamed for supporting the government's pillaging of our citizens liberties. He most likely agrees with it because he figures he has nothing to worry about since he's old.
But then again you are instantly invalid in all your arguments with him because you are a snot nosed 13 year old. Your grandpa's opinion isn't really gonna be swayed by you. So you are both wrong.
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Well sleeper cells are hard as he'll to find and i bet ur grampa would change he mind real quick if he was suspected as a terrorist and tortured for info. People seem to believe it's good for the people until they are sitting there tied down water being poured down on the towel covering his face.
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💚ǤƦєɛɲՊɑɳҳ℘ℎıƖҽ wrote:
Snot nosed?Well your grandpa should be ashamed for supporting the government's pillaging of our citizens liberties. He most likely agrees with it because he figures he has nothing to worry about since he's old.
But then again you are instantly invalid in all your arguments with him because you are a snot nosed 13 year old. Your grandpa's opinion isn't really gonna be swayed by you. So you are both wrong.
What would lead u to beleive I'm snot nosed?
Or r u being sarcastic? Cuz sarcasm doesn't work well over the internet -
Tell me this. Would you rather have 18 terrorists walking around killing hundreds of people, possibly including those 2 innocent ones you mentioned,
Or would you rather those 18 terrorists and those 2 innocent ones being put away for life, and protecting the millions of other innocent people on the streets?Yeah. Logic tells me that's the better scenario.
Besides, people fight and die for the good of their country: those two innocent people are victims in the war against terrorism.
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cj brown wrote:
If someone quotes Spock, the discussion is over. Sorry.The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few
-Spock -
⚡☀⚡Clone9786⚡☀⚡ wrote:
It's a saying💚ǤƦєɛɲՊɑɳҳ℘ℎıƖҽ wrote:
Snot nosed?Well your grandpa should be ashamed for supporting the government's pillaging of our citizens liberties. He most likely agrees with it because he figures he has nothing to worry about since he's old.
But then again you are instantly invalid in all your arguments with him because you are a snot nosed 13 year old. Your grandpa's opinion isn't really gonna be swayed by you. So you are both wrong.
What would lead u to beleive I'm snot nosed?
Or r u being sarcastic? Cuz sarcasm doesn't work well over the internet -
⚡☀⚡Clone9786⚡☀⚡ wrote:
Spelling does.💚ǤƦєɛɲՊɑɳҳ℘ℎıƖҽ wrote:
Snot nosed?Well your grandpa should be ashamed for supporting the government's pillaging of our citizens liberties. He most likely agrees with it because he figures he has nothing to worry about since he's old.
But then again you are instantly invalid in all your arguments with him because you are a snot nosed 13 year old. Your grandpa's opinion isn't really gonna be swayed by you. So you are both wrong.
What would lead u to beleive I'm snot nosed?
Or r u being sarcastic? Cuz sarcasm doesn't work well over the internet -
🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
That's what I thought. And turfa, I agree with that statement except for the fact that none of those people were tried. And it violates our constitution, well the bill of rights.⚡☀⚡Clone9786⚡☀⚡ wrote:
It's a saying💚ǤƦєɛɲՊɑɳҳ℘ℎıƖҽ wrote:
Snot nosed?Well your grandpa should be ashamed for supporting the government's pillaging of our citizens liberties. He most likely agrees with it because he figures he has nothing to worry about since he's old.
But then again you are instantly invalid in all your arguments with him because you are a snot nosed 13 year old. Your grandpa's opinion isn't really gonna be swayed by you. So you are both wrong.
What would lead u to beleive I'm snot nosed?
Or r u being sarcastic? Cuz sarcasm doesn't work well over the internet -
Giving up your freedom to save freedom? Hmmmm
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Ʈℍㅌ ʘㄕㅌℝ₳₮ミℝ wrote:
It's a freedom paradox!!!Giving up your freedom to save freedom? Hmmmm
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ΘиэЂuмвBαsтαя₫ wrote:
Lmao! I'm not going to make judgments on you quite so easily mate.♠Aⅅⅅ ϮuƦƑ₳♠ wrote:
When I contrast this little nugget with the arguements you made in the "Evilest Person" thread, I am left with the following options. You either are: a) a dumb ass; b) a hypocrite; c) a fool; or, d) all of the above. I'll go with d.👎snipped
I'm curious now, which comment in that thread makes this one turn me into a hypocrite? Or a dumbass or anything else for that matter?
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