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And don't you consider flooding the earth and killing everyone just a wee bit wicked itself?
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For the love of the paragons.
Someone. Kill me please. I can't handle the ignorant Christians anymore. -
💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Adam and eve were cursed for eating an ape that bestowed on them self awarenessNo, God didn't curse Adam and eve for thinking for themselves, Adam and eve had been fooled by the serpant in the garden to eat from the tre of the knowledge of good and evil, and God punished Adam an eve for being disobedient, the towel of Babel, God had disrupted the language because men had become to big for there britches and thought them themselves were gods, and the flood God wiped out the earth for turning away from him and being wicked. But have you forgotten that God himself came down into the flesh, suffered, and died on the cross so that you can have a chance to make it to heaven.
You see God is not a god of war or hate, but a God of love. -
Superyan wrote:
LmaoFor the love of the paragons.
Someone. Kill me please. I can't handle the ignorant Christians anymore. -
In the spirit world, or the world before this one. God held a great council to discuss a plan. We as spirits didn't have a body, and we didnt know true faith. For we have already seen God and talk with him. We didn't second thought his teachings for we knew him to be true. Despite us haveing our free agency in heaven god wanted us to have it too on earth. The transgression of adam and eve was essential to bring in knowlede of right from wrong. It was transgression and not sin because they didn't fully understand the consequences, so their partaking of the fruit of knowledge would not harm them. So once they where sent to earth they knew right and wrong and could teach it. With the help of god telling them again his teachings. As well Satan lost the war in heaven over the issue of free agency. That war shows that we did in fact have free agency but no one ever desired to go against gods plan.
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Some admire satan for being a rebel. Fighting the establishment, when in fact he was in it for himself. He wanted blind obedience. Screw this free agency. They won't mind, they won't be able to sin and fall away. God wanted us to progress and grow wiser. This is why we are here. Will we side with God or satan. Now that the veil is over our memories it's harder to decide. We can feel truth though through the spirit. All of us that are here and have been here on earth sided with God in heaven. Those who chose satan where kicked out of heaven too.
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And all this happened about 6000 years ago?
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Revenge wrote:
Satan wante doling obedience and wanted free will? Do I really have to quote all the chapters were god had people murdered for following someone else? Does that sound like free will? Stop being stupidSome admire satan for being a rebel. Fighting the establishment, when in fact he was in it for himself. He wanted blind obedience. Screw this free agency. They won't mind, they won't be able to sin and fall away. God wanted us to progress and grow wiser. This is why we are here. Will we side with God or satan. Now that the veil is over our memories it's harder to decide. We can feel truth though through the spirit. All of us that are here and have been here on earth sided with God in heaven. Those who chose satan where kicked out of heaven too.
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✪⚡℣₩☠ㄒÐï⚡✪ wrote:
Science is based on theory, then the theories are tested and proven.... It's also known as the evolution of knowledge. Everything we know as fact was a theory at some point.⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
I would just like to say nothing is "proven" in science, all science are theories! Thereore not provenYourplague wrote:
Who says I've lost? You? You're hardly an authority⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
I don't feal that way at all I admit when I'm wrong but you'll just keep fighting even if you obviously already lost(I'm not talkn about these threads specificly but in general just all the threads I seen you in)Yourplague believes hos opinion is always right.
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Free will to you guys is you have the choice to follow your mass murdering sadistic psychotic god or be punished. That form of free will doesn't seem very free to me
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Fong wrote:
Well longer than that, when you consider god setting the universe in motion so it can grow itself. And the creation of life on earth. Many ways you can go about explaining and interpreting the bible. That's why it has been used many times in the wrong way. Evolutionary theory is not entirely wrong. God may have worked that way. Allowing life to grow itself once he put in the necessary elements.And all this happened about 6000 years ago?
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Big Steve99 wrote:
Stop looking at me, swan.💚ǤƦєɛɲՊɑɳҳ℘ℎıƖҽ wrote:
It's too damn hot for a peguin to be walking around here.Conditioner is bett-a! I make the hair silky and smooth!
No shampoo is bett-a! I make the hair cleeen! -
Revenge wrote:
Not according to your bible he didn'tFong wrote:
Well longer than that, when you consider god setting the universe in motion so it can grow itself. And the creation of life on earth. Many ways you can go about explaining and interpreting the bible. That's why it has been used many times in the wrong way. Evolutionary theory is not entirely wrong. God may have worked that way. Allowing life to grow itself once he put in the necessary elements.And all this happened about 6000 years ago?
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Yea okay. God is evil because he wanted us to be free thinkers and masters of ourselves. Satan is good because he would allow us not to sin by taking our free agency. Leaving us stagnet. Oh wait their is no sin, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die. Another thought promoted by Satan.Free will to you guys is you have the choice to follow your mass murdering sadistic psychotic god or be punished. That form of free will doesn't seem very free to me
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Revenge wrote:
Blasphemer!Fong wrote:
Well longer than that, when you consider god setting the universe in motion so it can grow itself. And the creation of life on earth. Many ways you can go about explaining and interpreting the bible. That's why it has been used many times in the wrong way. Evolutionary theory is not entirely wrong. God may have worked that way. Allowing life to grow itself once he put in the necessary elements.And all this happened about 6000 years ago?
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Revenge wrote:
Wow. Once again you're saying free will is to think exactly like you do. That's not free will⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Yea okay. God is evil because he wanted us to be free thinkers and masters of ourselves. Satan is good because he would allow us not to sin by taking our free agency. Leaving us stagnet. Oh wait their is no sin, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die. Another thought promoted by Satan.Free will to you guys is you have the choice to follow your mass murdering sadistic psychotic god or be punished. That form of free will doesn't seem very free to me
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Hail Satan!
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Revenge wrote:
I use my free will to follow another god.⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Yea okay. God is evil because he wanted us to be free thinkers and masters of ourselves. Satan is good because he would allow us not to sin by taking our free agency. Leaving us stagnet. Oh wait their is no sin, drink and be merry for tomorrow we die. Another thought promoted by Satan.Free will to you guys is you have the choice to follow your mass murdering sadistic psychotic god or be punished. That form of free will doesn't seem very free to me
Suddenly Jews and Christians throw rocks at me under the name of their god for using my free will.
Yeah, ok then. -
Fong wrote:
No god is all knowing ok, God knew this was going happen so he could show his undying love for us by dying on the cross, tell me what I do bad about that, trying to show your undying love for someone by dying and suffering on the cross. Listen u might believe god is evil, or that he isnt real but here is the thing, there is a God who LOVES you.Adam and eve got fooled by a serpent that god made so he punished everyone by putting them in hell (which he made) but then he changed his mind and sent his son who is really himself to get tortured to stop the eternal torture he condemned everyone to. Yeah that story makes sense, nice god you got there.
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💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
What's so bad about it? He did it to make us even more dependent on him. If I'm to believe what you say the whole thing starts to be a scam to gain worshipers.Fong wrote:
No god is all knowing ok, God knew this was going happen so he could show his undying love for us by dying on the cross, tell me what I do bad about that, trying to show your undying love for someone by dying and suffering on the cross. Listen u might believe god is evil, or that he isnt real but here is the thing, there is a God who LOVES you.Adam and eve got fooled by a serpent that god made so he punished everyone by putting them in hell (which he made) but then he changed his mind and sent his son who is really himself to get tortured to stop the eternal torture he condemned everyone to. Yeah that story makes sense, nice god you got there.
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And Jesus didn't die for us. He was executed for treason against the roman empire. I see no holy martyrdom in that
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Thats fine if you follow another god besides in the Christian religion. As long as you understand his true message. Everyone has their freedom to follow who ever they want, believe, and act the way the want. As long as your actions don't harm anyone else.
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This whole debate has been about free thinkers vs. followers of religious dogma. Science is free thinking, Christianity is being told what to think.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
Good one 👍Free will to you guys is you have the choice to follow your mass murdering sadistic psychotic god or be punished. That form of free will doesn't seem very free to me
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Well der B. Yes god gave us free will and worthy of his love but the moment we exercise that free will and what is deemed evil then we become unworthy and get the smack down... It's all so clear now.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
God loves punishing the people he loves? Ignoring their prayers?💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
What's so bad about it? He did it to make us even more dependent on him. If I'm to believe what you say the whole thing starts to be a scam to gain worshipers.Fong wrote:
No god is all knowing ok, God knew this was going happen so he couldAdam and eve got fooled by a serpent that god made so he punished everyone by putting them in hell (which he made) but then he changed his mind and sent his son who is really himself to get tortured to stop the eternal torture he condemned everyone to. Yeah that story makes sense, nice god you got there.
It's either god doesn't exist or I don't want to follow a god like that. -
⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
But did you not know this was all planned, God is all knowing and knew this was going to happen. It was prophesied in the old testament, and not just that, it represented christs victory over sin and the devil.And Jesus didn't die for us. He was executed for treason against the roman empire. I see no holy martyrdom in that
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Superyan wrote:
No Ryan, where are you getting your information?⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
God loves punishing the people he loves? Ignoring their prayers?💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
What's so bad about it? He did it to make us even more dependent on him. If I'm to believe what you say the whole thing starts to be a scam to gain worshipers.Fong wrote:
No god is all knowing ok, God knew this was going happen so he couldAdam and eve got fooled by a serpent that god made so he punished everyone by putting them in hell (which he made) but then he changed his mind and sent his son who is really himself to get tortured to stop the eternal torture he condemned everyone to. Yeah that story makes sense, nice god you got there.
It's either god doesn't exist or I don't want to follow a god like that. -
💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
Brainwashing ^⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
But did you not know this was all planned, God is all knowing and knew this was going to happen. It was prophesied in the old testament, and not just that, it represented christs victory over sin and the devil.And Jesus didn't die for us. He was executed for treason against the roman empire. I see no holy martyrdom in that
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
He died for the atonement of our sins at the garden of asemete; I think thats how it's spelt. Another essential part in gods plan. Jesus had to atone for our sins so that we could repent. Leaving us not eternally damned. Reason why Satan tried tempting Christ so much. If he could make Jesus fall, all of gods children would be left sinfull. Without the ability of repentance. The Romans persecuted Jesus for being an extremist for love. That's all jesus taught. Love one another. In which many of his other teachings fell in line with it. Inluding free agency.And Jesus didn't die for us. He was executed for treason against the roman empire. I see no holy martyrdom in that
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