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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Every time I read one of your posts I want to jump off a cliff.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
my dog lacks belief in God too, is my dog a atheist? Obviously this "lack of belief" position is inadequate to sufficiently define atheism.🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
your response doesn't even make sense...₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
You're an idiot. Atheism is simply the disbelief in a God. A God has never existed, so morals don't depend on one.but according to the standard of atheism, who ever has the most nukes and military power of the day has the recommended standard of morality... so actually the atheist don't have anything to say about hitler, stalin, Mao, Iran, Iraq, crusades.... nothing just empty rhetoric of opinions.
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Superyan wrote:
are you going to start preaching to me? preach it! lol₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Shut Augustine. I do not care for your petty opinion. You are nothing but a temptation. A mere subject of the Mara.Superyan wrote:
Stop shoveling your ideas down our throat mr rayn. evil doesn't exist in your standard of thinking so you can't "borrow" that concept of morality from my worldview. Go about fulfilling scriptures of the bible Romans 1, romans 2:14, romans 3 John 6:44- romans 9. oh and another thing- God does exist and you know it as well.I'm leaving this thread.
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Hey zUntamed! Where do morals come from then?
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Superyan wrote:
are you going to start preaching to me? preach it! lol₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Shut Augustine.Superyan wrote:
Stop shoveling your ideas down our throat mr rayn. evil doesn't exist in your standard of thinking so you can't "borrow" that concept of morality from my worldview. Go about fulfilling scriptures of the bible Romans 1, romans 2:14, romans 3 John 6:44- romans 9. oh and another thing- God does exist and you know it as well.I'm leaving this thread.
"There is no God"
This is not a logical position to hold since to know there is no God means the person would have to know all things to know there is no God. Since he cannot know all things (if he did he would be God), then he cannot logically say there is no God. -
Glman.
Every Christian I have met has been filled with hatred and darkness. They do nothing but force views upon me and everyone in our school.
You have yet to experience your faith.Augustine. Shut up.
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glman wrote:
Morals are a human construct. This is proven as morals don't match in any two different culturesLet me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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Morals, logic justice are part of God's nature. ryan, seems to try to separate those characteristics (fallacy of saying is water subject to being wet?) and look upon the actions of man which reveals clear distortions of God's nature among the world doesn't make the author of these characters invalid or immoral.
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Superyan wrote:
Then those people are on the wrong. That's really sad on their part. I'm sorry on their part. (and trust me ive seen people like that) A true Christian isn't like that. I hope someday you can meet someone like than. See ya later.Glman.
Every Christian I have met has been filled with hatred and darkness. They do nothing but force views upon me and everyone in our school.
You have yet to experience your faith.Augustine. Shut up.
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🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
this is all you need to say. By saying it you have exposed truth and won the argument₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
You're an idiot.but according to the standard of atheism, who ever has the most nukes and military power of the day has the recommended standard of morality... so actually the atheist don't have anything to say about hitler, stalin, Mao, Iran, Iraq, crusades.... nothing just empty rhetoric of opinions.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Excuse me. I'm going to flood the entire planet!Morals, logic justice are part of God's nature. ryan, seems to try to separate those characteristics (fallacy of saying is water subject to being wet?) and look upon the actions of man which reveals clear distortions of God's nature among the world doesn't make the author of these characters invalid or immoral.
Innocent babies and children who haven't sinned yet? Fuck them. Fuck everyone. Kill them all. HAHAHA -
⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
So if I lived in another place it'd be okay to kill some one?glman wrote:
Morals are a human construct. This is proven as morals don't match in any two different culturesLet me pose a question, if you believe evolution to be true, where do morals come in?
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
There is no psychotic invisible magic sky daddy. If there was I still wouldn't follow your teachings of mass murder and descrimination.Morals, logic justice are part of God's nature. ryan, seems to try to separate those characteristics (fallacy of saying is water subject to being wet?) and look upon the actions of man which reveals clear distortions of God's nature among the world doesn't make the author of these characters invalid or immoral.
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
you just proved my point. thanks.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
There is no psychotic invisible magic sky daddy. If there was I still wouldn't follow your teachings of mass murder and descrimination.Morals, logic justice are part of God's nature. ryan, seems to try to separate those characteristics (fallacy of saying is water subject to being wet?) and look upon the actions of man which reveals clear distortions of God's nature among the world doesn't make the author of these characters invalid or immoral.
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Superyan wrote:
Again, a person's presuppositions govern how he interprets evidence. Notice that he uses the term "objective evidence." But he defends atheism, a "lack of belief" in God. His actions do not reflect a lack of belief, but an active belief. I conclude that no matter what evidences are presented, they will fall by the wayside because his atheistic presupposition cannot and will not allow their objectivity to be accurately examined.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Excuse me. I'm going to flood the entire planet!
Innocent babies and children who haven't sinned yet? Fuck them. Fuck everyone. Kill them all. HAHAHA -
₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Ok (sarcasm). People like you is why Christianity holds the mass murder record⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
you just proved my point. thanks.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
There is no psychotic invisible magic sky daddy. If there was I still wouldn't follow your teachings of mass murder and descrimination.Morals, logic justice are part of God's nature. ryan, seems to try to separate those characteristics (fallacy of saying is water subject to being wet?) and look upon the actions of man which reveals clear distortions of God's nature among the world doesn't make the author of these characters invalid or immoral.
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Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
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It's ok! God says you can kill!
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
nope. thats ad hominem because it doesn't give a response. ad hominem isn't a refutation.🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
this is all you need to say. By saying it you have exposed truth and won the argument₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
You're an idiot.but according to the standard of atheism, who ever has the most nukes and military power of the day has the recommended standard of morality... so actually the atheist don't have anything to say about hitler, stalin, Mao, Iran, Iraq, crusades.... nothing just empty rhetoric of opinions.
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♠Aⅅⅅ ϮuƦƑ₳♠ wrote:
You rest your case? Lol. You can't compare inanimate objects aka technology to things like plant and animal kingdoms. Oh boy. That arguement has no validity what so ever.Superyan wrote:
You prove my point. You can't imagine something dead evolving from something dead, but you believe something alive evolved from something dead?? Bravo, Einstein.Macro evolution is loads of small evolution!
You think some monkey is going to just suddenly pop out a full human baby? No. It happened slowly in small steps over MILLIONS of years.And the stupid fighter jet idea. Evolving from a rock.
The jet isn't alive. So it the reason it can't evolve from a rock is because it's dead. Enough said.I rest my case.
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
I'm Buddhist. Get your facts right.Superyan wrote:
Again, a person's presuppositions govern how he interprets evidence. Notice that he uses the term "objective evidence." But he defends atheism, a "lack of belief" in God. His actions do not reflect a lack of belief, but an active belief. I conclude that no matter what evidences are presented, they will fall by the wayside because his atheistic presupposition cannot and will not allow their objectivity to be accurately examined.₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Excuse me. I'm going to flood the entire planet!
Innocent babies and children who haven't sinned yet? Fuck them. Fuck everyone. Kill them all. HAHAHASorry. Your god drowns little children who haven't made a choice in life yet. Oh well! He's all loving right?
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Superyan wrote:
That's human nature not Christian nature per se. Don't group everyone in one lump.slugboy wrote:
You know why? Because Christians twist your words. They twist them to fit their view and argument. Eventually you just give up. It's not worth fighting someone who won't even make valid points.♠Aⅅⅅ ϮuƦƑ₳♠ wrote:
Stop saying things like 'you prove my point' and 'I rest my case'Superyan wrote:
You prove my point. You can't imagine something dead evolving from something dead, but you believe something alive evolved from something dead?? Bravo, Einstein.Macro evolution is loads of small evolution!
You think some monkey is going to jusI rest my case.
They have not and neither have you.... It just makes you come across as a bit of a tit. -
Λdོdོi wrote:
Like they lump us in one group as sinners?Superyan wrote:
That's human nature not Christian nature per se. Don't group everyone in one lump.slugboy wrote:
You know why? Because Christians twist your words. They twist them to fit their view and argument. Eventually you just give up. It's not worth fighting someone who won't even make valid points.♠Aⅅⅅ ϮuƦƑ₳♠ wrote:
StopSuperyan wrote:
You prove my point. You can't imagine something dead evolving from something dead, but you believe something alive evolved from something dead?? Bravo, Einstein.Macro evolution is loads of small evolution!
You think some monkey is going to jusI rest my case.
Ok then. -
Superyan wrote:
OT law, Jesus repealed most of thisIt's ok! God says you can kill!
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⌖🔥Belial🔥⌖ wrote:
This is the kind of Christian I am. My faith, logic and science go hand in hand. Religion is an archaic means to an end to control people. I don't need religion to love God.Thing is an intelligent open minded person sees all the evidence aroun him and adapts his beliefs. He doesn't try to disprove the observations because he "knows" his beliefs are correct. This is the difference between science and religion
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Superyan wrote:
Ryan I'm sorry you feel this way, as I have said before true Christians do not act like the way you are explaining that they act, the Christian way was not to do what they did in the crusades, it is to go and spread it by peace and love.i'm not forcin you to believe what you believe, im just asking one thing of you ok, please just respect me and my beliefs and my God as I am respecting you and your beliefs and your god. Ok?Glman.
Every Christian I have met has been filled with hatred and darkness. They do nothing but force views upon me and everyone in our school.
You have yet to experience your faith.Augustine. Shut up.
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💣ㅆⅈʂʗℌⅈミƑ🔫 wrote:
I'm respecting yours sure.Superyan wrote:
Ryan I'm sorry you feel this way, as I have said before true Christians do not act like the way you are explaining that they act, the Christian way was not to do what they did in the crusades, it is to go and spread it by peace and love.i'm not forcin you to believe what you believe, im just asking one thing of you ok, please just respect me and my beliefs and my God as I am respecting you and your beliefs and your god. Ok?Glman.
Every Christian I have met has been filled with hatred and darkness. They do nothing but force views upon me and everyone in our school.
You have yet to experience your faith.Augustine. Shut up.
Augustine has disrespected mine plenty of times in the past. My patience has passed. -
Superyan wrote:
₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Superyan wrote:
yes God is all loving. but He is also all just and must punish because his standard is perfection. so Buddhism states that "they don't lack belief in God"?₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Excuse me. I'm going to flood the entire planet!Sorry. Your god drowns little children who haven't made a choice in life yet. Oh well! He's all loving right?
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₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
We believe in the cosmos.Superyan wrote:
₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Superyan wrote:
yes God is all loving. but He is also all just and must punish because his standard is perfection. so Buddhism states that "they don't lack belief in God"?₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
Excuse me. I'm going to flood the entire planet!Sorry. Your god drowns little children who haven't made a choice in life yet. Oh well! He's all loving right?
Sure, killing innocent babies and children is all loving. -
Superyan wrote:
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
yes, old covenant and having to do with the actions of civil issues of history. Do you know what the new testament is ryan or are you limited to your atheist web site is giving you?
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🔥zUntamed🔥 wrote:
belial: "Morals are a human construct. This is proven as morals don't match in any two different cultures"₳ʉ₲ʉṣϮḭ₦ê (₳ⓑ€) wrote:
You're an idiot. That's not how it works. We've had these morals ad decided things were bad a LOOOOONG time ago. It's not whoever has the most nukes makes the rules. Atheism is simply the disbelief in a God. A God has never existed, so morals don't depend on one.but according to the standard of atheism, who ever has the most nukes and military power of the day has the recommended standard of morality... so actually the atheist don't have anything to say about hitler, stalin, Mao, Iran, Iraq, crusades.... nothing just empty rhetoric of opinions.
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