What do you think about atheists?
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*Spazzes out like that Christian lady from Wifeswap*
You're all Darksided!!!
But I agree with PhatPhuck, and every religion has people who try to convert people.
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I'm a radical atheist. I find Christians annoying. They push and try and convert everyone they come across. They enter your home and tell you that your religion is flawed and that only with Jesus they can reach God.
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griogair 💀add infinity💀 wrote:
Do you live in Vatican City or Jerusalem? That was actually quite funny though, lol @ they enter your home.I'm a radical atheist. I find Christians annoying. They push and try and convert everyone they come across. They enter your home and tell you that your religion is flawed and that only with Jesus they can reach God.
I was on a bus and an athiest was preaching to a group of kids so...every religion has people like that.
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j punchclock wrote:
It sounds like you know more about atheism than I do, although I have heard of positive and negative atheism. I call myself an atheist only because it is closest to what I believe and it's easier than saying "I believe that anyone who claims to know the nature of god has an alterior motive." Assuming you are a Christian, your claim that any other belief system is "massively flawed" is laughable. I'd love to hear how Christianity is a reasonable conclusion.
why would you assume I'm a christian? Why do so many atheists do this?
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Scroobius Pip wrote:
realy? I would say everything points to him being one of the strongest atheists in the world.The definition of "strong" and "weak" atheism is a bit messed up when Richard Dawkins is technically a "weak" atheist
Just so we are all on the same page. A weak atheist is somone who has a lack of belife in deities, but will not assert that they do not exist.
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"Just so we are all on the same page. A weak atheist is somone who has a lack of belife in deities, but will not assert that they do not exist"
that's agnostic no?
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Scale yourself from 1 to 10. 1being strongly religious 10 being strongly athiest and 5 being agnostic.
I reckon I'm about an 8
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Signore Rossi wrote:
Ahh you see this is the common misconception. An agnostic is simply somone who asserts the view that the existence of God is unknown or unknowable. So one could potentialy be a theist or atheist and still be an agnostic."Just so we are all on the same page. A weak atheist is somone who has a lack of belife in deities, but will not assert that they do not exist"
that's agnostic no?
One of my friends is another category of agnostic. He simply does not care at this moment in this life and so holds no position.
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Sorry the end of that sentence should say his not this
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I'm an omnitheist; I believe in every possible god and religion simultaneously. So if only one ends up being right, I'm still covered. I also get alot of days off work for religious holidays.
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The Rhino wrote:
Richard Dawkins says quite often that he simply does not believe in any deities i.e he doesn't go as far as saying, "I believe in the non-existence of all deities"Scroobius Pip wrote:
realy? I would say everything points to him being one of the strongest atheists in the world.The definition of "strong" and "weak" atheism is a bit messed up when Richard Dawkins is technically a "weak" atheist
Just so we are all on the same page. A weak atheist is somone who has a lack of belife in deities, but will not assert that they do not exist.
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Moridin wrote:
Lmao.I'm an omnitheist; I believe in every possible god and religion simultaneously. So if only one ends up being right, I'm still covered. I also get alot of days off work for religious holidays.
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You know I can read things you wrote on other threads, right? I assumed you are a Christian because you defend it and you seem threatened by atheism like all insecure Christians.
I've not defended Christianity. I've argued against some points on the other thread because the logic was flawed. I'd do the same against chritianity If their logic was flawed if they wernt already swamped by replies. No point in wasting my time on things already said.
Assumption is the enemy of logic. It's makes you look bad on threads like this especially if your contesting from a so called logical standpoint.
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Richard Dawkins says quite often that he simply does not believe in any deities i.e he doesn't go as far as saying, "I believe in the non-existence of all deities"
Just because you say something does not make it true. If Richard dawkins asserts he is a weak theist it simply makes him a liar. Ones actions must allign with what one says.
Saying Richard dawkins is not a strong atheist is like saying the pope is not catholic.
Seriously the man wrote a book called the god delusion... -
Hey Rhino- when you wanna quote something, you can touch where it says "quote" & it'll make that text box thing instead of having to copy & paste.
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The Rhino wrote:
What actions does he have to align with his words??? His words are his actions... The problem is with the definition some of the most outspoken atheists are not technically "strong" atheists as they don't believe specifically in the non-existence of deities.Richard Dawkins says quite often that he simply does not believe in any deities i.e he doesn't go as far as saying, "I believe in the non-existence of all deities"
Just because you say something does not make it true. If Richard dawkins asserts he is a weak theist it simply makes him a liar. Ones actions must allign with what one says.
Saying Richard dawkins is not a strong atheist is like saying the pope is not catholic.
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j punchclock wrote:
your putting words in my mouth. I've said strong atheism is illogical I've said weak atheism is more logical even going so far as to say it can't be reasoned against.Rhino, you basically said that atheism is not a logical conclusion, which means you are probably not an atheist. Christian seemed a pretty logical conclusion to me for many reasons. Assumption is the enemy of logic? Are you sure about that? I frankly don't care what you are, I was merely curious about your argument that atheism is a conclusion that is somehow not rooted in logic, when compared to the major religions.
I've not said anything about other religions and how they are a more logical choice.Please stick to the facts.
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BellaItaliana wrote:
Hey Rhino- when you wanna quote something, you can touch where it says "quote" & it'll make that text box thing instead of having to copy & paste.
oh I know just sometimes when you have to delete multiquotes it goes wrong😿
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j punchclock wrote:
Rhino's Facts:
Strong atheism = illogical
Weak atheism = more logical?Please explain
Bonus:
Explain how assumption is the enemy of logic.Thanks
logic, can be defined a number of ways, most common of which is the tool used to separate truth from falicy.
Knowlege of God is unknown as knowing God (or knowing his exisance is false) is objectively untestable as it is proposed (in many belifes) that God exists as the creator of the universe and thus cannot be truly ruled in or out untill everything in the universe is explained. Even then as it is proposed by some religions that God exists on another plane entirely many think it is even immpossible to ever logically prove or disprove the existance of God... (cont)
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So belife in God is an illogical choice. As is belife in the non existance of God.
Non belife or accepting one does not know, is the defult scientific position. As bias oppinion should not then factor in to any future tests.
Why is assumption the enemy of logic?
Because it's not based on evidence."ignorence is not the greatest downfall of man, it is the illusion of knowlege"
Stephen Hawking -
I dont enjoy hanging out with confirmed athiests
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Belief in the non-existance of god is illogical? I disagree. The very idea of "god" evolves from a flawed line of reasoning that is by definition an attempt to explain the unexplainable. The only logical conclusion is that "god" as defined by man, who cannot possibly know the nature of god, cannot possibly exist.
Scientists make assumptions in the course of their work on a regular basis, is the scientific method illogical?
Is that you, Spock?God as defined by man cannot possibly exist becasue man cannot define God?
This makes no sense.
All this proves is that man will never know the full nature of God. One does not have to have knowlege of something in order for it to exist... Did gravity exist before man realised it was there?
Flawed reasoningWith regards to the assumption argument, are you attempting to compair your claims that have no backing and absolutely no standing in the truth, to the deductive process of science?
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I AM I CHRISTIAN. but all these threads about religion is dumb this is a game not some big debate blog website or whatever
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You afraid you'll see nothing at the end of your time?
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Live and let live as long as there is no hate monging and a celebration of diversity. Peace is my religion (Dali Lama).
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For me God does not even conflict with science. As science deals with how we are here. Philosophy deals with why and it is here that God has it's place.
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j punchclock wrote:
For someone who seems to have such a hard-on for logic you sure know how to fill up a post with logical fallacies.before I go on I must reitterate that God is not simply an explanation for the unexplained. But as we seem to be lead down this one path I'll argue your point.
The existance of the universe is far from explained.
You think we have come close to the truth and so fill in the gaps in your chosen theory to make it so. When you have no idea where infact the finishing line is. It must be observed that the more one scrutinises the more complex science gets and for every answer 10 new questions arrise, don't try and cheapen it by stating that we are almost there. -
I've addressed this point.
You have just chosen to ignore the answer. I am surprised.
Well I think Ive seen enough. This argument can't go anywhere if your going to ignore posts, and make unbacked assumptions.
Peace out and God bless.
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