Gingrich - WTF?

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Jeff 🍆 Newton Jan 20, 2012

Well of course. All parties have their good and bad people. Racists included. Brown note is saying that ALL democrats are like that while conservatives are not as likely, which I disagree from personal experiences.
Brown🎵Note Jan 20, 2012

Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Well of course. All parties have their good and bad people. Racists included. Brown note is saying that ALL democrats are like that while conservatives are not as likely, which I disagree from personal experiences.

You miss my point entirely.
Which party speaks of class and gender and race and sexual preference as an identity, one that deserves special treatment?
vinnie the deal Jan 20, 2012

Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
Well of course. All parties have their good and bad people. Racists included. Brown note is saying that ALL democrats are like that while conservatives are not as likely, which I disagree from personal experiences.

I see what you are saying by personal experiences, but as a whole, people are conditioned to believe it because its much easier to attack someone with no substantiating fact and for the attack to land as a fact, than it is to defend yourself against them. It's a common tactic used by the left in this country. Every other day the white house calls anyone who opposes Obama a racist. If your against obamacare you're racist. If you criticize fast and furious it's because your racist. If you didn't vote for Obama in the general election it's because your racist. If youre a tea party member and believe in smaller government it's because you're racist.
With all those attacks the defamation becomes accepted as truth.
Brown🎵Note Jan 20, 2012

I am terribly disappointed in you once again, Addi. Painting me with that anti-gay evangelical brush again...

You like to stereotype conservatives.

Of course I'm militantly anti-religion, and have no problems with sexual preferences or same-sex marriage.

Hell, I don't even have a problem with responsible drug use.

Yet I'm conservative. I know what conservatism means, and doesn't mean.

I'm a child of the 70's Sesame Street values. Race means nothing. Gender means nothing.

Late 80s and 90s Sesame Street changed. Now we are grouped into our little race, class, culture, and gender segregations. "Multiculturalism".

Not me, lady.
Jeff 🍆 Newton Jan 21, 2012

vinnie the deal wrote:
Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
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I see what you are saying by personal experiences, but as a whole, people are conditioned to believe it because its much easier to attack someone with no substantiating fact and for the attack to land as a fact, than it is to defend yourself against them. It's a common tactic used by the left in this country. Every other day the white house calls anyone who opposes Obama a racist. If your against obamacare you're racist. If you criticize fast and furious it's because your racist. (Some snipped to fit*)
With all those attacks the defamation becomes accepted as truth.

Now that's just ridiculous. If you are against his things or him that doesn't make you racist in anyway. I heard a child call Obama the anti-Christ today. It made me sodas at how parents can destroy children's minds like that! (I hope none of you think that).
Jeff 🍆 Newton Jan 21, 2012

Brown🎵Note wrote:
I am terribly disappointed in you once again, Addi. Painting me with that anti-gay evangelical brush again...

You like to stereotype conservatives.

Of course I'm militantly anti-religion, and have no problems with sexual preferences or same-sex marriage.

Hell, I don't even have a problem with responsible drug use.

Yet I'm conservative. I know what conservatism means, and doesn't mean.

I'm a child of the 70's Sesame Street values. Race means nothing. Gender means nothing.

Late 80s and 90s Sesame Street changed. Now we are grouped into our little race, class, culture, and gender segregations. "Multiculturalism".

Not me, lady.

Are you talking about now we say thee is no prejudice, yet when you go to fill out a job application or something at school the Latino option is stand alone by itself on the page?
Golden Dino Jan 21, 2012

Its just typical America.. take it or leave it.
Brown🎵Note Jan 21, 2012

Institutionalized discrimination is illegal, particularly by government.

It is against the law to treat citizens differently under the law based on gender, religion, race, or "social class".

This is why same-sex marriage must eventually be allowed. The government can't deny service based on gender.

This is a conservative ideal. Progressives seem all too happy to provide services based on race, gender, sexual preferences, and social class.

That is the definition of discrimination.

Martin Luther King Jr. was very conservative by today's standards. The father of the modern republican party was Abraham Lincoln, (though arguably not exactly anti-federalist)...

A true conservative believes in the concept of blind justice.

I think Mr. Gingrich is being painted as a racist by the left, when they themselves have no concept of the meaning of the word. His only mistake was trying to identify and explain social class differences. Only the left is allowed to do that. :P
Jeff 🍆 Newton Jan 21, 2012

I believe this is an impossible argument and neither of us will convince each other otherwise lol.
Brown🎵Note Jan 21, 2012

Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
I believe this is an impossible argument and neither of us will convince each other otherwise lol.

So you unconditionally surrender? Cool.
👿Belial Jan 21, 2012

The sad truth is the republican side has been completely overrun by the religious right. As such the whole party is intolerant and not really conservative anymore
Jeff 🍆 Newton Jan 21, 2012

Brown🎵Note wrote:
Jeff 🍆 Newton wrote:
I believe this is an impossible argument and neither of us will convince each other otherwise lol.

So you unconditionally surrender? Cool.
No. It is just apparent that we are not convincing eachother of anything, clearly. And Belial. You are very right about that. 👏👏👏👏
★Λddi★ Jan 21, 2012

Brown🎵Note wrote:
I am terribly disappointed in you once again, Addi. Painting me with that anti-gay evangelical brush again...

You like to stereotype conservatives.

Of course I'm militantly anti-religion, and have no problems with sexual preferences or same-sex marriage.

Hell, I don't even have a problem with responsible drug use.

Yet I'm conservative. I know what conservatism means, and doesn't mean.

I'm a child of the 70's Sesame Street values. Race means nothing. Gender means nothing.

Late 80s and 90s Sesame Street changed. Now we are grouped into our little race, class, culture, and gender segregations. "Multiculturalism".

Not me, lady.

Don't pull that bullshit with me brown. I only pull out the brush after you do.
★Λddi★ Jan 21, 2012

Brown🎵Note wrote:
Institutionalized discrimination is illegal, particularly by government.

It is against the law to treat citizens differently under the law based on gender, religion, race, or "social class".

This is why same-sex marriage must eventually be allowed. The government can't deny service based on gender.

I think Mr. Gingrich is being painted as a racist by the left, when they themselves have no concept of the meaning of the word. His only mistake was trying to identify and explain social class differences. Only the left is allowed to do that. :P

The thing is he identified them in such an inaccurate and mean spirited way. To conclude it quickly, just because you are poor doesn't mean you don't have a work ethic. Not even close. If anyone thinks that's accurate then they live in a bubble.

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