Mandotory voting
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Just like in Canada when we were voting for the leader of B.C. They said that they wouldn't put the HST threw if elected ... Less then 2 months after being elected they put it threw.
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Fat Raymond wrote:
Soe would argue it is neither. Food for thought. not my wordsAmish Hitman wrote:
Voting is a right.Voting is a privilege.
Is there a 'right' to vote? Or should we take a different view and argue that it is a 'privilege' to vote? Let's see.
If voting is a 'right', especially if you call it a 'civil right' then by definition it can not be taken away. Rights can not be lost, for then they would not be 'rights'. Privileges can be lost (ask any teenager!), but not rights. Also, 'rights' belong to everyone equally, so if you have any rules about voting, it can not be a 'right'. Many countries have a minimum voting age. Well, since many countries are filled with convicted criminals that can not vote, as well as underage people that can not vote, voting can not be legally considered a 'right'.
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Well then, it is a privilege? If so, there are rules on earning it and on losing it. How does one 'earn' the privilege to vote? Is it by being a landowner? Is it by being born male, or by being old enough? How old is old enough? Is it 18 or 21 years of age?
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Do any of these rules, or the many other ones tried by countries over the centuries ensure quality voters? Many of us know people of voting age that are just plain, well, not intelligent voters. We also know people too young to vote that are very careful and intelligent about casting their vote. I know dumb landowners and intelligent renters. If you want to call voting a privilege, I assure you that any line you draw for people to cross in order to 'earn' that privilege will be a flawed line. I offer you the argument that voting is not a privilege.
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Voting in political elections is not a right, nor is it a privilege. Then what is it? I contend that it is a grave responsibility. Those that do not agree, should not be allowed to vote. Those that do agree, should be allowed to vote. They should strive hard to make 'informed' decisions which are best for them in the long-term.
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Voting is classified as a "civic responsibility". Compared to going to war when drafted or serving on a jury, which are called "civic duties".
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Where does it say that rights cannot be taken away ?
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Fat Raymond wrote:
Technically, it's not a right.Amish Hitman wrote:
Voting is a right.Voting is a privilege.
It can be taken from you, (felony conviction, under age, etc), therefore it does not meet the criteria for an inalienable right, as described in our founding documents. It is bound by rules as privileges are, but rights cannot be.
It is also not enumerated in the bill of rights, and is controlled at the state and local level. Rights are not controlled or regulated.
A human right, as I see it, cannot be taken from you or forfeit. That's what inalienable means.
...Hence the age-old debate on restricting voting to land owners.
I think neither. I think it's a civic duty.
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(see Alexander V. Mineta, 2000 supreme court ruling.)
"..As a result, voting is not a right, but a privilege granted or withheld at the discretion of local and state governments... The US is one of just 11 nations among 120 or so constitutional democracies that fail to guarantee a right to vote in their constitutions."
Obviously written by a nut-job supreme court justice that believes rights are granted and guaranteed by the government, and not "endowed by their [societal evolution / Place Dog Here.]"
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I vote for issues, but rarely for candidates anymore. Mandatory voting is a big no-no.
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I give it my vote, make voting manditory for citizenship. Making taxes manditory for residence.
Sick of hearing about no options and non-vote as a protest. And some presidents in the recent past have demonstrated that poohole x is at least better than poohole y.
Go out and make options.
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Chortles wrote:
So poohole x is better then poohole y. That's a great option.I give it my vote, make voting manditory for citizenship. Making taxes manditory for residence.
Sick of hearing about no options and non-vote as a protest. And some presidents in the recent past have demonstrated that poohole x is at least better than poohole y.
Go out and make options.
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I personally would like that. It irritates me when people whine about our president but very few vote. If you dont vote, you have no right to whine. Voting is a privilege that we should do every time we have the chance. Look at some countries, they're not allowed to vote.
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