Defense Vendetta in Worcestershire, Uk

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Fat John Jul 15, 2012

A lesson for me: don't be lenient.

Target: Tyson187 (<12k), ad_BL6 (>30k) and their Revenge V

History: Metabaron, capped out of Worcester, asked me to help him get home from Bilston, where he was also being capped out by Smokey187. I chaperoned him to Bromsgrove, where he got majorly capped by Tyson. I helped, and for my troubles got a V against me. I got that disbanded via counter V and Metabaron had a defensive V while passing through. His defensive V is over so Tyson, after many attempted threats against me in the REAL world, has raised another one backed by ad_BL6. I presume he joined because all this affected his capo status in Belbroughton, but he hasn'bossed a word prior to joining Tyson's V.

I could have capped Tyson out of Bromsgrove. Perhaps with hindsight I should have. Instead I held back.

I got a LOT of turf pay for weapons to stand up gainst a local bully or two, but now I'm helping people and going for the UK turf record.
〓 Ⓑ Ⓛ 〓 Jul 15, 2012

Fat John, the reasons I decided to help Tyson are as follows. looking thru your turf list you have capped a load of turf off different people yet your attacking Tyson for capping, hypocrite, strangely you have capped loads off meta baron the person you are protecting???! Suspicious, that's all am saying. Also you took various capo's off me without sending me a msg or out, not a reason for V, just something that pisses me off.
Fat John Jul 15, 2012

JaBe retired, I took most of his turf in Birmingham over a couple of days because he said it was up for grabs - go check his retirement thread.
〓 Ⓑ Ⓛ 〓 Jul 15, 2012

You capped turf off meta baron yesterday?? What's the deal, does he lay turf and you cap cos your over limit? You keep msging me like this is my beef with you, it ain't, am just helping. I hear what your saying in the msgs and TBH you and Tyson both hardly sound perfect and was gonna have a word with Tyson bout sorting this out, then you V me? What happens now?
Fat John Jul 15, 2012

The V is against you and Tyson. It's a defensive counter V. You seem okay but you're in a V against me. I have to counter.

I don't claim to be perfect, but I do deny bullying. Vehemently. I've explained about escorting Meta to Worcester. He asked for help, I gave it. I'm over my limit so giving help means giving me turf to get from A to B.
〓 Ⓑ Ⓛ 〓 Jul 15, 2012

You can understand that it looks like meta is your mule, you story maybe legit but thats how it looks.
Fat John Jul 15, 2012

I'm going to write an article about mules and mule strategies when this is over. In the past I've actively make deals for mutual assistance. Support to meet an objective in exchange for turfs.

According to Mystery, that counts as muling, which sucks because without it many people get stuck in locations they don't want to be after they've been capped out.

It's well within the rules, but everyone seems to have a different definition of muling. To me it's no different to being in an alliance. Which is probably who some people hate alliances too...
Mystery Jul 15, 2012

Don't bring me into this. That's just my opinion. People differ as to whether they are even opposed to muling. It is why resistance was created.

An article on mule strategies? 😳 It sounds more like you are trying to differentiate between "cooperative turfing" versus muling.
Fat John Jul 16, 2012

That about sums it up, Mystery.
Fat John Jul 16, 2012

Well, my V backer has gone, so I'm not in the best place right now. Looked like the V situation could have been avoided but hes a stubborn ass. Any support grateful - you have my word the V is purely defensive.
ૈⅅ͜ⅇ͠ⱥྀᵵ͜ℌ⃕☠ Jul 18, 2012

ill help but im weak but i guess any help counts
Fat John Jul 19, 2012

It's ok. I weathered it alone and came out with more turf than I went in with. Everybody's cool, but thanks for the offer.