HOW TO: REALLY Capture Turfs
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tThe 50% rule IS in effect, and has a bug.
I am at 8000 inf and tried capping turf of a 6000 inf player. Only when the turfs were within 50% of each other was the capture possible.
I tested with 85 going after 35. I lowered my inf one upgrade at a time until I was in range.
Then TA-DAH!!! CAPTURED.
So in the interest of fairness and correctness, the rules need to be posted as they are meant to apply. If a rule seems to not be in effect, then a footnote should be added about a possible "bug".
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I think the way you have gone about this is very rude. Nixon's thread has been serving the tw community very well for ages - then you come along and use the existance of a new bug to claim nixons hard work for your own. Shame on you.
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Night wrote:
vendettas checklist clearly outlines the fifty percent rule I checked. No mention of your build circle theory which means at best it's a bug that'll be ironed out soon. Personally I trust the vendetta checklist over your assumptions as that is the version of the game we'll all hopefully be playing sometime next weekBelial...are you saying that my rule #3 is wrong?
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Night wrote:
Belial...are you saying that my rule #3 is wrong?
No.3 is wrong. A smaller turf may be in your capture range, but you may not be in it's capture range.
So, while they may not be able to capture you, you can still capture them.
Reciprocity of capture is not a requirement.
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ChainsawCharlie wrote:
tThe 50% rule IS in effect, and has a bug.
I have personally never seen the 50% rule applied to any of my captured turfs. I'm not doubting it's existence...I just don't understand it or the bug since it's never applied to me.
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ttt wrote:
I tried several times to bring the error to his attention...yet he ignored me or brushed me off several times...I feel he was being rude to me for not even attempting to address the issue. And...I did give him props for writing the original thread...in several posts. I'm not trying to take credit for his work...only improve on it.I think the way you have gone about this is very rude. Nixon's thread has been serving the tw community very well for ages - then you come along and use the existance of a new bug to claim nixons hard work for your own. Shame on you.
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belial wrote: vendettas checklist clearly outlines the fifty percent rule I checked. No mention of your build circle theory which means at best it's a bug that'll be ironed out soon. Personally I trust the vendetta checklist over your assumptions as that is the version of the game we'll all hopefully be playing sometime next week
I had no knowledge of any checklist...so how would I even be able to relate to that? I'm only basing my influence radius rule on the testing that I've done with the turfs that I've captured. -
ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Charlie...can you show me a turf where this has occurred?...or provide a screenshot of the smaller turfs influence radius showing that it's not covering the bigger turf?...or anything that shows the proof of what you've said?No.3 is wrong. A smaller turf may be in your capture range, but you may not be in it's capture range.
So, while they may not be able to capture you, you can still capture them.
Reciprocity of capture is not a requirement.
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Night, at this point even if you are right, you've made yourself look an ass and it sounds like you just want some glory... The orignal worked just fine for me.
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I've tested what I claimed. Your just going to have to take my word for it.
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You may also want to point out the the 10% rule is a one-way rule.
For example: A 4000 influence player cannot capture from a player less than 400 influence, but a less than 400 inf. player CAN capture from a 4000+ inf. player.
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The💀Filling wrote:
agreed. Give it up night destroy this post. At this point your only making a fool of yourselfNight, at this point even if you are right, you've made yourself look an ass and it sounds like you just want some glory... The orignal worked just fine for me.
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Night wrote:
ChainsawCharlie wrote:
tThe 50% rule IS in effect, and has a bug.
I have personally never seen the 50% rule applied to any of my captured turfs. I'm not doubting it's existence...I just don't understand it or the bug since it's never applied to me.
Go to Help screen in the App. Tap on the More Info under turf.
It clearly spells out the 50% rule. What Nixon posted is correct. If there is a bug, it does not make the info false or wrong.
Did you know there is a bug that can let you get double payouts on your hourly income?
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Night wrote:
I barely read any of this but rule number 1 is wrong example if I had a 84 influence turf and was trying to capture a 42 influence turf following you rule number 1 it wouldn't workpresident nixon wrote:
What are you correcting exactly?
As for what I've corrected...well the only thing I have corrected was #3. However, I also elaborated on #1. It's not just "close enough" as you describe.
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Who cares, once vendettas is out, it will be clear what requirements are met.
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ChainsawCharlie wrote:
I've tested what I claimed. Your just going to have to take my word for it.
Perhaps you missed what I was wanting you to show/prove. I don't care whether or not the other turf CAN capture because I already clarified that it doesn't have to satisfy the "capture rules" for you to capture it...what I care about is whether or not the green influence radius from the smaller turf was going through the larger turf. Are you saying that did see that it wasn't going through your turf and you were still able to capture it?
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ChainsawCharlie wrote:
I did go and read it...and perhaps everyone should go and read it to finally clear up the error that has occurred...but I'll go ahead and quote it here...Did you know there is a bug that can let you get double payouts on your hourly income?
"You can capture another mobster's turf if you have your own turf close enough to it and your turf has at least 1/2 the other turf's influence."
You will notice that the wording only references that you have to have at least 1/2...not that the opponent's turf needs to be at least 1/2. Meaning if you are a smaller turf than your opponent, then you need to be at least half...but if you are bigger, then the 50% rule does not apply for your opponent's turf.
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The💀Filling wrote:
I could care less about the glory...I just want the correct information posted. I just highly dislike misinformation...as that only leads to the frustration of myself and many gamers. I'm only looking for the truth here...and as I see it, Nixon's original post was not providing the whole truth. I have agreed to stop posting any new information in this thread to appease the community with the hopes that Nixon will rewrite his thread eventually with the corrected info. I'm used to forums where you are allowed to edit your posts...and if that was the case it would be simple for Nixon to edit his original post with the corrected info. Since that's not the case, it makes it much more difficult on the rest of us.Night, at this point even if you are right, you've made yourself look an ass and it sounds like you just want some glory... The orignal worked just fine for me.
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Tom Hagen wrote:
Because until then (since I've been burned many times by "promised release dates") I want the correct information out there so that players can understand it and use it properly.Who cares, once vendettas is out, it will be clear what requirements are met.
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schulzie wrote:
I barely read any of this but rule number 1 is wrong example if I had a 84 influence turf and was trying to capture a 42 influence turf following you rule number 1 it wouldn't work Please elaborate...your example didn't make any sense in how it relates to rule #1. -
schulzie wrote:
I barely read any of this but rule number 1 is wrong example if I had a 84 influence turf and was trying to capture a 42 influence turf following you rule number 1 it wouldn't work Please elaborate...your example didn't make any sense in how it relates to rule #1. -
Tom Hagen wrote:
yes as i said vendetta comes with checklists that leaves mo doubt as to capture rules. All of which match nixons post. Night would know this if they were active enough to have joined us in betaWho cares, once vendettas is out, it will be clear what requirements are met.
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Can I ask a question? Night states that if you are at your turf limit you can still capture, nice. However, if you aren't at your turf limit and you capture does this count towards that limit? I ask because I'm sure I had 1 turf left to claim but then I captured a turf and I'm now at my limit. I might be wrong but if someone could clarify that would be great. Happy mobbing.
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Hightower...actually, Nixon originally stated that and if you go to his thread, your question has probably been answered there. However, I'll try to answer it here...all of the turfs you have count towards your turf limit, regardless if you placed them or captured them. Your actual turf count versus your turf limit is only important when you are trying to drop a new turf. Your turf limit does NOT apply whenever you are capturing turfs.
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ChainsawCharlie wrote:
Charlie...I reread this example you gave after going through and reading the help section. Both the Help section and the Beta state that the 50% rule shouldn't apply in your example since you only have to be at least 50% of the turf you were capturing. If the turf was 35 influence, you should only need to be 18 influence. Can you re-look at this and give some insight as to what else might have been going on here to cause you to not be able to capture the turf?tThe 50% rule IS in effect, and has a bug.
I am at 8000 inf and tried capping turf of a 6000 inf player. Only when the turfs were within 50% of each other was the capture possible.
I tested with 85 going after 35. I lowered my inf one upgrade at a time until I was in range.
Then TA-DAH!!! CAPTURED.
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Hmmm...
Something is definitely wrong then. Because I can not capture a turf the is over 50% or under 50% of my attacking turf.
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I'm really curious about this Charlie...because even though you say you've experienced this phenomenon (and it seems others have said they've experienced it as well), I personally have never experienced the 50% rule applying whenever your turf influence is at or above the influence of the turf you are capturing. But it doesn't sound to me as if that rule is supposed to be in effect anymore, nor in the future.
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the road to hell is paved with good intentions
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I agree with night he's tryed to help you guys with showig you the correct information. Oh yes but all you can do is offend him. And by doing so you all make yourselves look like idiots. You go make something like this because I bet you can't! The only reason you offend Night is because you are jelous. Shame on you all.
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Actually Lewis, he just copied my post and added incorrect information to it as a reasoning behind him posting it. He hasn't adressed his claim that turfs have to be able to capture your turf before you can capture them, which is incorrect. The only thing he defends is already in my post a dozen or so times.
What he should do is delete this post and either add to the discussion already going on or make a new post about his specific concerns or corrections.
What he shouldn't have done is split the posts. Even if his theories were needed it still would only make it harder for people by making them have to look in two places. He won't own up to that though, making is actual intentions pretty clear.
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