Defensive Upgrades

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〓CAPTAIN SATAN〓 Jul 11, 2011

i was thinking instead of having a guard give +5 to your defense, what if it gave a bonus to your defense of 0.5%

10 x guards @ 0.5% = 5%
2 x window bars @ 0.7% = 1.4%
4 x security cam @ 0.9% = 3.6%
2 x mg nest @ 1.2% = 2.4%

for a total of 12.4% bonus to your defense for that turf,
so if i have 100000 defense i would get 112400.

i am just throwing this out there, because like the att/def skill points this feature is just sitting there doing absolutely nothing, whats the point?
randombloke Jul 11, 2011

I agree. There needs to be a use for them. I haven't bought any of those upgrades since I was a 2k mob.

I suspect that they were once a valid tool when the game was young and most mobs were less than 1k (maybe one of the old timers could verify). Now an extra 12 defence points is a drop in the ocean.
Vadan™ v2.0 Jul 11, 2011

U beat me to it random. I like this suggestion, it's the first that gives a reasonable solution to what is a useless feature. Would the upkeep stay the same?
〓CAPTAIN SATAN〓 Jul 11, 2011

I guess the upk could stay the same, it's 57k with all upgrades
Vadan™ v2.0 Jul 11, 2011

Captain Satan wrote:
I guess the upk could stay the same, it's 57k with all upgrades

Have u done the maths? Just how much upkeep it would cost for 12k points.
Vadan™ v2.0 Jul 11, 2011

1 turf provides 120 def points @ 57k upkeep. It's not feasible.
〓CAPTAIN SATAN〓 Jul 11, 2011

But we are not talking about 120 defense points, we are talkin about 12% bonus to defense when the turf with upgrades gets attacked, 57k seems ok, besides it's not something you would equip permanently on every turf
Vadan™ v2.0 Jul 11, 2011

Captain Satan wrote:
But we are not talking about 120 defense points, we are talkin about 12% bonus to defense when the turf with upgrades gets attacked, 57k seems ok, besides it's not something you would equip permanently on every turf

I'm just saying that's how much defense is available per turf at the mo. What figure would the 12.4% be based on?
〓CAPTAIN SATAN〓 Jul 11, 2011

When you go in the market, you can see the total defense for your mob with equipments.
Mine is currently at 144k, 12.4% of that is 17.8k.

Now let's say I equip 1 of my turf with all the def upgrades to get up to 12.4%(see 1st post). When defending this turf would have 144k + 17.8k. But only when this turf gets attacked, otherwise I would still have 144k def

Capiche?
Vadan™ v2.0 Jul 12, 2011

Captain Satan wrote:
When you go in the market, you can see the total defense for your mob with equipments.
Mine is currently at 144k, 12.4% of that is 17.8k.

Now let's say I equip 1 of my turf with all the def upgrades to get up to 12.4%(see 1st post). When defending this turf would have 144k + 17.8k. But only when this turf gets attacked, otherwise I would still have 144k def

Capiche?

Ok now I gotcha. Hmmm sacrifice the income for a big boost in turf defence. Hell, why not. 👍
Vadan™ v2.0 Jul 12, 2011

YOU wrote:
Captain Satan wrote:
When you go in the market, you can see the total defense for your mob with equipments.
Mine is currently at 144k, 12.4% of that is 17.8k.

Now let's say I equip 1 of my turf with all the def upgrades to get up to 12.4%(see 1st post). When defending this turf would have 144k + 17.8k. But only when this turf gets attacked, otherwise I would still have 144k def

Capiche?

Ok now I gotcha. Hmmm sacrifice the income for a big boost in turf defence. Hell, why not. 👍
But I think if this happens the upkeep should be variably higher. A typical 18k mobster will have somewhere close to 600k def, that's a 75k boost.. Or if I'm right 4.4k lapuas! The percentage needs to be lower, upkeep based on cutter defence and a limit of some sort. Otherwise, those with billions would effectively become untouchable.
Vadan™ v2.0 Jul 12, 2011

*Current defence
Mystery Jul 12, 2011

VADAN wrote:
1 turf provides 120 def points @ 57k upkeep. It's not feasible.

An 86 inf turf not earning any protection makes a max of $53.6k. Unless it's your last turf in an area & you are desperate to save it, it would be cheaper to be capped.
👿Belial Jul 12, 2011

Vadan why would there need to be a limit. That isn't a stackable thing. It only protects one turf and the current upkeep is such that it would throw yoi way into negative. If a 10% exploiter did this it would throw them way into negative and eat up cash very quickly. That's said I say no just remove the upgrades as defense increases stalemate.
〓CAPTAIN SATAN〓 Jul 12, 2011

Wouldn't a stalemate bring more V and by the same occasion more action? It could a deterrent to 10% exploit
Add: KOZY Jul 12, 2011

If you added inf to the defensive upgrades it might deter people going malarial plus using defensive upgrades.
Vadan™ v2.0 Jul 13, 2011

Kozy wrote:
If you added inf to the defensive upgrades it might deter people going malarial plus using defensive upgrades.

That's actually a good point. However, if as suggested, it's per turf, it wouldn't make a difference.